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I mean, hell, every US president since we've had the bomb has been an avowed Christian of some denomination or other, and we never deployed nuclear weapons against the Soviets or the Chinese on the grounds that we'd be welcomed into Heaven by Jesus for opposing communism. Likewise, despite their atheistic disregard for life and human freedom, the Soviets never deployed their own nukes in their unstoppable quest for world domination

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He really doesn't seem that bad. Later in the thread he posted this:

"@ Skyland:

Since it's the internet, I realize there's a bit of a tone-of-voice problem there. Allow me to clarify:

(1) I'm an atheist.

(2) The point was that the caricatured view one takes of Muslims with nuclear weapons ("They'll use them because they'll just go to their 72 virgins") is no more valid than any caricatured view one might apply to the US's traditionally Christian leadership or the Soviet Union's atheist leadership.

Sure, CPSU was never the authoritative body on atheistic morality, and US propaganda was never the authoritative body on the CPSU either. The point is that despite genuine and perceived differences in ideology and outlook, people seem to share an aversion to incineration by nuclear fire. Moreover, these caricatures of our metaphysical beliefs did not result in their supposed real-world consequences. A US-USSR nuclear exchange has not happened. A US-Russia, US-China, or Pakistan-India nuclear exchange has not happened. Is an Israel-Iran exchange more likely than a US-USSR one was or a Pakistan-India exchange might be? I don't think so."

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"I mean, hell, every US president since we've had the bomb has been an avowed Christian of some denomination or other, and we never deployed nuclear weapons against the Soviets or the Chinese on the grounds that we'd be welcomed into Heaven by Jesus for opposing communism."

Uh, no. The only thing that kept that from happening was more sanity than insanity and the M.A.D. gambit.

"Likewise, despite their atheistic disregard for life and human freedom, the Soviets never deployed their own nukes in their unstoppable quest for world domination."

You seem to not realize that if you launch a fucking nuclear weapon at a country that has them also or is allied with said target country then you will be obliterated from the face of the Earth shortly thereafter.

The lack of foresight people such as yourself display is astonishing.

“I mean, hell, every US president since we've had the bomb has been an avowed Christian of some denomination or other,”
Yeah, yeah, sure, sure. NO posers, of course not.

“and we never deployed nuclear weapons against the Soviets or the Chinese”
Um…. Yes. Yes we did. Bombs in silos, bombs on bombers, bombs in submarines, all pointed, or ready to be pointed, at the Bad Guys. The threat of Mutually Assured Destruction. Used to refer to it on the subs as ‘our deployment.’
I think you mean ‘launched’?

“on the grounds that we'd be welcomed into Heaven by Jesus for opposing communism.”
Jesus? The guy who ran around with disciples that donated what they had to everyone’s benefit and took what they needed? Why, uh, why do you think he’d be against communism?

“ Likewise, despite their atheistic disregard for life and human freedom,”
That’s not atheism.

“ the Soviets never deployed their own nukes in their unstoppable quest for world domination”
They just put them in Cuba off our shores. They ran their submarines just off our coasts.
Yeah, you definitely mean ‘launched.’

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