When you point out a Bible verse about the reality of Judgment Day, do you ever have people say something like, "That's just your interpretation!"? If that happens, quote Luke 13:3 to them. Read it to them and ask them to give their interpretation. Get it into their hearts. It's quick and powerful and sharper than any two-edged sword.
Also, never be concerned when sinners tell you that the Bible has changed or that it is filled with mistakes or that they don't believe it. The Bible was given as a lamp to our path, and it only gives us light when we approach it with childlike faith and humility of heart. So, don't worry about their unbelief. Get it into their hearts. It won't return void. Then pray that God brings it to life at the right time.
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I was curious, and took a quick look at Luke 3:13 -- "I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all in like manner perish."
That verse doesn't state that there will be a (singular) judgement day, nor does it even indicate that there will be multiple (individual) judgement days. It merely state that those who fail to repent will perish (and, by implication, that those who do repent will not perish).
Compare and contrast: "Those who do not eat food will surely perish" -- this is an obviously true statement and /doesn't/ require any sort of sentient being to pass "judgement" on those who do not eat food.
So, yeah, I don't think that verse not only fails to support your point (that "Judgement Day" is a real thing that we should be worried about), it actually proves that you are, in fact, interpreting the verses that you read -- it isn't as easy as "Read the words and know the truth".
(OP)
Put a sock in it already, Banana Man. The only "Judgment Day" any of us will ever see is a '90s sci-fi action film starring Linda Hamilton and Ahnuld as the heroes and Robert Patrick as the villain. Anything else is simply wishful thinking from people with a severe inferiority complex. People like you, Ray.
"...and it only gives us light when we approach it with childlike faith ..."
In other words: with gullibility. No, thanks. You may keep your "childlike faith"; I'll stick with reality.
"do you ever have people say something like, "That's just your interpretation!"? If that happens, quote Luke 13:3 to them."
Even better, quote the koran to them. It's quick and powerful and sharper than any two-edged sword. It's really good for slicing bananas.
Also, never be concerned when sinners tell you that the Bible has changed or that it is filled with mistakes or that they don't believe it. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, or the hand up the God sock puppet, either. The Bible was given as a lamp to our path, and it only gives us light when we approach it with childlike faith ignorance and gullibility, and humility of heart intestines.
There. That's better.
@ #1882067
"It's about as sharp as a butter-knife, made out of butter."
Or, as Foghorn Leghorn would have said: "Boy, I say boy, this is about as sharp as a sack of wet mice".
Regards & all,
Thomas L. Nielsen
"it only gives us light when we approach it with childlike faith and humility"
Ray, I'll quote 1 Corinthians 13:11 (KJV)when you say that:
"When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things."
quote Luke 13:3 to them. Read it to them and ask them to give their interpretation.
Repent of what? How can you repent without having some specific act in mind? Paul says we are all constantly sinning in the eyes of God no matter how well we try to act. And what does one actually do to repent? Yell "I'm sorry" at the sky? Kneel and mumble it at your folded hands? The Roman Catholic Church says "repent" means confess your sins to a priest and do penance for them to show your repentance. I doubt that Ray, a Baptist, would agree with that.
Words are only quick, powerful, and sharper than any sword when they're actually relevant to the situation. Responding to someone calling out your unintelligent, dishonest interpretation of a Bible verse with an unintelligent, dishonest interpretation of a different Bible verse doesn't cut it.
"Also, never be concerned when sinners tell you that the Bible has changed or that it is filled with mistakes or that they don't believe it."
So ignore all criticism because you know deep down you're right all the time? Yeah, no. I've had to deal with people like that in the Let's Play community on the forum I'm a moderator on. They're not paragons of their medium, they're fucking annoying twats with massive, undeserved egos in place of any actual skill or potential.
(SpukiKitty)
Talk about gratuitous generosity. *laughs* I much prefer to think of it as a bad acid-trip.
Ray, I don't now how to break this to you, but you ARE going to die. Someday, sooner or later, you will die. Get used to the idea.
Luke 13: 3
In other words, threaten them with hellfire and damnation if they don't take the Bible as literally as you do or even simply disagree with you. Classic fundie tactic.
My response wouldn't be "That's just your interpretation." My response would be, "That's just your religious beliefs which I don't share." If you're going to use the bible as an ultimate authority, you need to prove beyond any doubt that it is indeed true. Just quoting bible verses at me to try to get me to believe the bible isn't going to work. I'm going to need independent verification. I mean, there's absolutely nothing the bible could possibly say which would make be believe all of it.
@Norman
Is there any way one could weaponize Rays stupidity and ignorance? New Zealand could hold the world to ransom if it could.
If, and only if, they actually lay claim to him and take him back.
>Childlike faith
@Marcdid meet god in a "burning bush".
Luke 13:3 says (KJV):
Okay then. So my response would be "uh, everybody dies dude"
29th August 1997 passed, so there's your argument vapourised by the blast from an aerial H-K's plasma cannon (in the 40-watt range) before it started.
...oh, and as a certain Vorlon will tell you, 'Understanding is a three -edged sword'.
Just ask John Sheridan at Coriana VI, after he laid it down to the Vorlons & Shadows, then told them to 'Get the hell out of our galaxy!'. Just fucking off our Earth will suffice, Ray Cumfart.
As Kosh would say: 'Leave this place. They are not for you. Go. Leave. Now . '
You are not ready for immortality. I refer you to a scene one million years after the events of "Babylon 5" with someone on Earth, prior to the sun going Red Giant, then becoming a being of light not unlike the Vorlons, then departing to join the rest of ascended humanity beyond the Rim: Immortal .
Via evolution.
The Bible was given as a lamp to our path, and it only gives us light when we approach it with childlike faith and humility of heart.
So does a night light Ray. They even have some shaped like this.
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(Anon-e-moose)
Meh, fuck WAY decades , not eons. Transhumanism FTW!
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