"Why is it that you can tell a kid that God created him and that the Bible is true, and he'll believe it so fiercely, yet tell that to an "educated" individual, or that is a "Free Thinker," and all of a sudden he'll question EVERY SINGLE THING that God said. No matter that the Bible lays it out htere so clearly, he will question it. The Bible says that we have to have faith, but who cares, right? I mean, if we can rationalize everything away, then there's no need for faith"
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Have any of you people even READ the Bible? I'm thinking not. Anyone that claiims that the Bible has contradictions and errors normally HASN'T read the Bible. I'll bet you don't know the first thing about It.
hit a chord there eh?
>>Have any of you people even READ the Bible?<<this list .
>>I'll bet you don't know the first thing about It.<<
I'd b e willing to call that bet. I could use a little bit more pocket change
>>Oh, and that post was to people who CLAIM to believe the Bible in the first place. Not to agnostics, skeptics and morons like you all. <<
Then you shouldn't have posted it on the Internet where anyone can look at it and post their opinions about it. The moment you show something to the public they are free to make and express opinions about it. If you don't want people to disagree with what you say, don't post it on the Internet.
""Why is it that you can tell a kid that God created him and that the Bible is true, and he'll believe it so fiercely, yet tell that to an "educated" individual, or that is a "Free Thinker," and all of a sudden he'll question EVERY SINGLE THING that God said. you said when you told him that the Bible was true.
Have any of you people even READ the Bible? I'm thinking not.
You must be dyslexic, because if you had typed "I'm not thinking" it would have been right.
Oh, and that post was to people who CLAIM to believe the Bible in the first place. Not to agnostics, skeptics and morons like you all.
Preaching to the choir is useless. And besides, that's not a very good argument to use. The parallels with Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy are obvious enough that some of the less dense among you will recognize them if you point them out so nicely for them.
Why is it that you can tell a kid that God created him and that the Bible is true, and he'll believe it so fiercely... they believed in Santa at one point and tell their kids about Santa to offset this? Do they merely associate Santa with an idealized form of childhood innocence/ignorance and want to foist this onto their children so they can relive the happy innocent childhood they probably never had?
Sorry. My family's Jewish. I've never understood this thing about Santa Claus.
...yet tell that to an "educated" individual, or that is a "Free Thinker," and all of a sudden he'll question EVERY SINGLE THING that God said.
No, they won't. A free thinker will not question what God said. They will question whether God exists , or in other words, whether you're telling the truth and whether the Bible is accurate.
So, to summarize what you just said: Gullible little kids believe your religion to be true, while open-minded educated adults consider it to be a load of twat. Do you see the obvious implications of this?
Hint: You're not helping your case.
No matter that the Bible lays it out htere so clearly, he will question it.
The Lord of the Rings "lays it out 'htere' [sic] so clearly" that Frodo Baggins carried the ring to Mount Doom, but you (presumably) question, doubt, and reject this. The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy "lays it out 'htere' so clearly" that the Earth will soon be destroyed to make way for a hyperspace bypass, but (I presume) you question that too. The Bible, like the Lord of the Rings and Hitchhiker's Guide, is fiction. The Bible claims otherwise, but I can easily find at least one other fictional book that claims to be true. (The Quran, for example.)
When the only evidence in favor of a book's veracity is the word of the book itself, only a moron would be prepared to trust that book to be true without further question.
The Bible says that we have to have faith, but who cares, right?
OK, let's go over this.
Your claim: The Bible is true.
Your evidence: The Bible says that you're not supposed to think.
Nobody but a true believer could reach any verdict other than "barking mad." (Yay Dawkins!)
I mean, if we can rationalize everything away, then there's no need for faith
What do you mean "rationalize everything away?" There's no evidence for God to rationalize! I think what you meant to say was this:
If we rationalize away all the scientific and historical evidence, we can make room for blind faith.
Machine translations are imperfect. Single-tired-person translations may be equally flawed. Fundiebabble-to-English translator now engaged.
Ok, for you ignoramuses, I will explain what I meant in the first place, since you seem wholy incapable of understanding anything intelligent.literal 24 hour period of time! The only times that there It differs from this it is clearly explained in context.
If someone who claims to believe the Bible then turns around and says he believes a crack-pot "theory" like evolution, they are lying. One cannot actually believe the God who created this Universe AND evolution. The "theory" of evolution and the TRUTH of the Bible are 100% contradictory.
That's what I was getting across to stupid people who claim to believe the Bible AND evolution; it cannot be done. And I'm seriously flabbergasted that people who claim to be sane would admit to believing a stupid idea like evolution.
#96880 10/5/2006 4:05:42 PM
I dunno, because they're impressionable and uninformed? Although I'm glad I'm not the only one who draws the parallelism between children and fundies. It supports the whole God=~Santa Claus thing. So close, and yet so far.
I'll tell you why. Its really quite simple.
The kid has not developed critical thinking skills, and is perfectly willing to believe all sorts of bullshit (try an experiment and tell him that there is a base of soldiers on the moon, and watch how eagerly he believes it without a second thought).
"The Bible says that we have to have faith, but who cares, right? I mean, if we can rationalize everything away, then there's no need for faith"
And your point?
Why is it that you can tell a kid that God created him and that the Bible is true, and he'll believe it so fiercely, yet tell that to an "educated" individual, or that is a "Free Thinker," and all of a sudden he'll question EVERY SINGLE THING that God said.
Because kids believe what they're told. It's like the bible says "when I became I man, I put away childesh things."
No matter that the Bible lays it out htere so clearly, he will question it.
The bible isn't really that clear to many people.
I mean, if we can rationalize everything away, then there's no need for faith"
And no need for hateful and violent religions.
For the same reason you can tell children that Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, etc etc are real, and they will believe it.
No life experience, and trusting that adults are telling them the truth.
Well, it's generally in a child's best interest to believe and TRUST what adults tell them. If I tell my son not to cross the road or touch a hot plate he eventually realizes I'm trying to help him avoid getting hurt. That's what makes religious indoctrination particularly insidious. Get them while they're young enough to follow a general story but not intuitive enough to ask penetrating questions. Get them awed by and afraid of the Sky Daddy while they're still too young to see through the bullshit, and they will invent creative ways to defend that indoctrination throughout their lives; even PAST the point that they reach an age of reason and realize it's all probably just a load of manure.
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How many children have you spent much time with?
We took my oldest to a movie when he was about five. Before it started, they had an ad for a Batman movie. A little kid in teh next row turned around and said, “But that’s not the reasl Batman.”
Has zilch to do with rational evaluation of outrageous claims.
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