Homosexuality is not a disorder, its not natural. The Bible condemns homosexuality and any kind of sexual immorality whether its pornography, fornication, lust etc. Homosexuality is a spirit. Yes a spirit. HOw? Why do men/women feel the urge to be with a same sex parnter? It is not their urge, it is the spirit of homosexuality oppressing and depressing them...along with the spirit of deciet that tells that they cannot get help.
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ProperJob -- That's a good point.
Incubusion: "Bible also says it's adultry to think of a woman lustfully so I don't think it's exactly very knowledgable about sexual perversions of any kind."
Not only does the Babble say it's adultery to look at a woman lustfully, in the next verses Jesus recommends that if your eye causes you to sin you should pull it out.
Maybe, gotvision's problem is that s/he has been overcome by the spirits of intolerance and assholiness.
I guess this is what I get for submitting too long of a quote, but this is the part I really wanted to see posted:
But wait...I don't believe in spirits and such. Well my friend read the works of Jesus...if that does not convince you, try Ephesians 6:10-12, and if that does not convince you here is a little testimoney I heard a while back "A man did not want his daughter to get have sex in college. He took her to a practicing witch and the witch gave her a ring. She/he (this was not disclosed) told her-put it on your ring finger and never take it off. This girl became a lesbian...the father in shock."
Papabear wrote:
Not only does the Babble say it's adultery to look at a woman lustfully, in the next verses Jesus recommends that if your eye causes you to sin you should pull it out.
Making gotvision's name just a little ironic, methinks.
Irene
I'm confused. Didn't god make everything? Don't angels, devils, demons, spirits, unicorns, sea-monkeys, etc. fall under his jurisdiction? I mean, wouldn't.....Oh, right. This is another one of those things god visits on his special creations under the guise of 'Satandidit'. Yeah, I forget about that one sometimes. Stupid deity.
Name one gay person who wants to "get help" and become heterosexual. No one? Then shut up, or the Spirit of Teeth will make you rich tonight.
Sadly enough, there are actually gay people who find themselves caught between their sexual orientation and their religious/macho upbringing/indoctrination and who believe that they need help to "reject sin/sissyness" and "become normal". I heard that in the US they even had "therapy camps" for the poor souls who want to become straight, said therapy being mostly Babble-based brainwashing and systematic bashing of everything gay or supposed so.
Ah, yes, the homosexuality spirit . . . I remember when we met. It was at a dance. He asked me to give him a ride home. The full moon was out. We were driving past the cemetery when he said Wait stop here!’’ I turned around to ask him why but he was gone.
>> It is not their urge, it is the spirit of homosexuality oppressing and depressing them <<
Sounds to me like gv needs this for his excuse; not his urges, oh, nooooo, it's demons and spirits. Witches, enchanters and shape shifters oppressing him; making him go say "Hi, Sailor" to that macho stud in the Blue Oyster.
I think this moron has been at the spirits of an entirely different kind. Men/women "feel the urge" to be with a same sex parnter(sic) because, y'know, they are GAY!
They were born that way as surely as they were born human, and what the bible says is of even less relevance to it all than the barking of a dog.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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