[Arguing that our mathematical system contains errors.]
Oh i'd like to argue that.
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Um....no, but it is an interesting phenomenon that while 10 divided by 3 is 3.33333<repeating>, you can't actually do it in reverse, because you will never be able to multiply by an infinite decimal. The very definition of it means you will be multiplying forever , and the longer you do it, the closer you will get to 10... In theory, if you do it forever, you will eventually get to 10, but who has that kind of time?
a = b
Covered by Sandman, Rob, Ens, Glazius (well done), ABeastOfPrey (although I think that the notation would go over Adam4God's head) and Crosis. Your High School math teachers would be proud.
Oh, for the love of all that's good! Another mathematics genius. If really think you're so fucking good at this and you have found a "glitch", why are you posting it on bibleforums.org and not sending it to a respected science journal? Could it be because in reality you actually have no clue about what you're talking about? Gee, that's a possibility, isn't it? Do you know what the ellipsis stands for in this case in mathematics? It's the omission of the rest of an irrational number? Do you know what that is? No? Then go and learn you retard!
This reminds me of the old conundrum that a stone thrown at a tree cannot ever reach it. In order to do so it must first travel half the distance.
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How has nobody suggested a So Close Yet So Far Award for this guy yet? I mean, that's one of the simpler proofs used to show people that 9.999... does equal 10, and he makes exactly the right conclusion from it, but then declares that the conclusion is false, defying what he's just worked up to!Totally deserves the award.
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He i partially correct. 10/3 IS 3.333 repeating, and 3.333x3=9.999, but this is only effectively true up until about grade 11 math(in canada, anyways). after that, one should know that 3.333(repeating)x3 =/= ten, but rather asymptotically approaches 10. if you were to use long multiplication to determine the answer, it would take literally forever for you to get to ten. largely because you will asymptotically approach it. however, because we dont often need that kind of precision, 9.999999999999999999 can be said to be equal to about 10
Fundies shouldn't try to do math, they could hurt themselves. Just because something isn't intuitive, or seems strange doesn't make it an 'error', a 'glitch', or wrong. As long as the result is logically consistent we can use it in math; math doesn't care if something is difficult for some to grasp.
1/(1-z)=1+z+z2 +z3 +z4 +z5 +... for |z|<1
Proof:
Define Sn (z)=1+z+z2 +z3 +...+zn and let |z|<1.
Then
(1-z)Sn (z)=Sn (z)-zSn (z)n (z)-(-1+Sn+1 (z))n+1 .
Since |z|<1 we have Limn > infinity zn+1 =0
this means Limn > infinity (1-z)Sn (z)=1. Rearranging this gives
Limn > infinity Sn (z)=1/(1-z)
which is equivalent to saying
w/(1-z)=w(1+z+z2 +z3 +z4 +z5 +...) for |z|<1.
Letting w=3/10 and z=1/10 we have 1/3=0.333...
Confused?
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