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Lion IRC #fundie atheistforums.org

[But go ahead, tell us what sort of beliefs can't be "proven" by science.]


Physics. Forces. Strong nuclear. Weak nuclear. Gravity. Magnetic.

There is force which I call “soul” that can be proven to exist by scientific method. Take a rock and drop it. Physics can predict quite accurately exactly what will happen to the rock.

The rock will obey gravity, land on the floor and remain there until—————

Until what?

Until I walk over and pick it up. I can lift the rock using my own free will/volition.

Physics cannot predict when or EVEN IF I will pick up the rock.

Physics has no name for the unpredictable and VERY REAL force acting upon the matter of my shoulder, my arm, my hand, the rock in the EXACT OPPOSITE DIRECTION of gravity.

It is not hormones – hormones are matter.
It is not brain – brain cells are matter. Matter has no free will.

So what exactly is the name of the force (which acts in a way science cannot predict) that lifts the rock doing the opposite of what gravity intended?

Polaris #fundie atheistforums.org

Well there are two types of evolution: macroevolution, which is much easier to accept, and microevolution.

The key with macroevolution is taking the evidence and extrapolating a pattern.

Microevolution is more about taking the theory of evolution and trying to assert it is happening currently in a certain species over a very limited amount of data from genetic divergence within a control group over time period significantly less than what should be used to determine if evolution is occurring.

[LOL, macro and micro refer to our perspective of the event, not the process. Don't start this tired shit. Microevolution -is- macroevolution. Titl the lens into closer focus, pan out over wider focus. End of.]

Going back and forth between genetic changes is not what I call evolution. Just because a species is undergoing Darwinian mechanisms does not mean it is really experiencing evolution.

MysticKnight #fundie atheistforums.org

(I understand everything you said above until this. Do we need to discuss the 'theory' of gravity again?)


Gravity is a theory. For all I know, there is no force between objects. It's all enforced by a Creator for example. For all I know, material objects don't exist, and only souls exists, and there is a designer giving rise to our experience of the material world.

The whole way the world works, atoms, etc, perhaps none of the laws are intrinsic to existence. They simply are being imposed by a higher power.

If gravity was a fact, I would suspect the philosophical argument of whether we know a physical world exists would be debunked.

Notary Public #racist atheistforums.org

Hitler was only killing the races that plague this world.
Gypsies, Jews, slavs, they are nothing but bad news.

Mass deportation and then separatism would have been a bit more humane, I agree.
But funny how people say Hitler is the bad guy when he was driving away all the pests that are currently infesting modern day Europe.

Now watch as all the bleeding heart liberals jump up and shout "MUH DIVERSITY" and "MUH TOLERANCE."
One day you will learn that there are some cultures and races that are truly scum.

I believe in nationalism. Each country for its own people, if gypsies and Jews didn't invade Germany, Hitler wouldn't have had to exterminate them.

Blackrook #fundie atheistforums.org


You can't assume based on lack of evidence that something is true, that it is untrue.

For example, it has never been proven that 1 = 1.

Mathematicians start with that as an assumption because without it, all other mathematics is impossible.

But it has never been proven that 1 = 1.

Godschild #fundie atheistforums.org

Christianity does not require people to disregard their reason, or to be credulous

[A book that claims the earth was made in 6 days. Treats the sun and moon as separate sources of light.]

If during the creation the earth was close to a black hole then scientificly it would work. Technically there is one source, realisticly they are two different sources, the light reflected by the moon would forever be lost to the earth if the moon did not reflect the light.

Mr Garrison?

Is that you?

deciple #fundie atheistforums.org

The way i understand evolution is that out of nothing some kind of single celled organisim sprang and then that evolved into a two celled organism then that eventually turned into a fish, the fish turned into a lizard the lizard branched off and turned into a bird and a mammal and then from that we get monkeys and they turned into people. If that is true wouldnt it be possible to take something that already functions such as a wristwatch and send it off to a distant planet that resembles the conditions here on earth and have some kind of mars rover put it in the dirt and over millions of years shouldnt it turn into something? No it will still be a wristwatch in the dirt.

Drich #fundie atheistforums.org

[Why, in Leviticus the original 'law's was slavery not abolished?]

Because Slavery is not a sin. Slavery sets a paradigm for the believer. One must become a slave to God. To be a proper slave one must understand the concept of slavery. Therefore we must have a biblical example/understanding of what a slave is.

BJHulk #fundie atheistforums.org

Everyone starts life out in a body with corrupt DNA that causes deception in our thoughts. Only a few people were chosen by God to get our DNA changed later on in life. He started changing my DNA in 1984 and finished changing them on June 14, 2008. This took many commands to confess and repent of my sins and other things he wanted me to do. The whole object of this was to get my body in total obedience to his thoughts and power of light energy, which is who God is.

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