edwitness #fundie disqus.com
Alan Smithee:
I can honestly tell you I do not worship anything or anyone. Now maybe you can explain why you don’t believe me. I am being entirely civil and sincere.
edwitness:
A person's god/God is the ultimate criteria he uses to make his choices. For the Christian that criteria is Jesus. For you it is something else. Which is the sin of the world that Jesus came to deliver the world from(John16:9). The sin of not believing in Jesus. Only when one is delivered from this unbelief can they have eternal life. Because eternal life is knowing Him. John17:3.
Even so... Maranatha!!
Alan Smithee:
Excuse me, but no. Nobody has the right to tell me what I actually believe but me. I get very annoyed when people tell me that I'm purposely sending myself to hell because I have the nerve to believe something other than what they believe. The lack of logic and laziness is appalling..."Oh, well, you don't believe what I do so that must mean you worship satan and want to go to hell." Both hell and satan are parts of YOUR belief system, not mine...and you're welcome to them.
edwitness:
Excuse me, but yes. Your free will determines the choices you make in accord with the information you are given. The ultimate criteria for those choices determines the god/God you have chosen. It's really that simple.
And since it is the ultimate criteria you use in making your choices that determines who your god/God is, and since yours is admittedly not the God of the Bible, then it can only be some other. And because Jesus is the only way, truth, and life because He is the only person who has ever conquered man's death, you have disqualified yourself from His saving grace and will live for eternity with the god you have chosen.
Your God given free will has done all this. All because He loves you enough to allow you to choose your eternal destiny. So you can't blame God when you end up somewhere for all eternity that you never wanted to be.
Even so.. Maranatha!!
Alan Smithee:
Absolutely false. If you want to believe in something ridiculous like eternal hellfire, it's your problem, not mine. I don't believe in something that ludricrous and none of your religion's silly rules apply to me whatsoever.
My free will means I choose my path in this life. And that doesn't include your revenge fantasy. You don't know what happens after this life any more than anyone else does.
edwitness:
"... none of your religion's silly rules apply to me whatsoever."
Really? Then you must think you are not be subject to death as the Bible says you are, huh?
"My free will means I choose my path in this life."
Amen! That's exactly what I said.
"And that doesn't include your revenge fantasy."
What revenge fantasy? Whether you go to hell or not has nothing to do with revenge. It is your choice. The exercise of the free will that God has gifted you with. Because He does not force anyone to love Him. He loves you so much He allows you to choose for yourself.
The eternity you are so far choosing was never made for you. It was made only for the angels that rebelled.
"You don't know what happens after this life any more than anyone else does."
Oh, but I do. Because I have it on the authority of the one who knows the end from the beginning. The one who has proven this by telling of future events before they happen that come to pass exactly as He said they would. With 100% accuracy. and since He has been right about all these there is every reason to believe Him in regard to eternal life and eternal death.
Even so... Maranatha!!
Alan Smithee:
When I die, I'm going to die. I'm going to do what everyone else does. Just die.
"Whether you go to hell or not has nothing to do with revenge. It is your choice."
Only according to YOUR RULES. I don't play by your rules. They are illegitimate. When you tell me I choose hell, you're lying, because I don't believe hell exists. You can tell me that YOU think I'm going to hell. That's fine. But you're not doing that, you're telling me that I am choosing it, and since I don't believe it exists, I am not choosing it.
You Christians need to stop telling the rest of us how we think, and try asking us instead. We know our own minds far better than you do. Such unbelievable arrogance!
And no, you don't know what happens after this life. Your faith is just that...faith. It's not fact and it has not been proven.