Blah. All part of the new Western culture that says love yourself above anyone, and your every desire should be met - instantly, if not sooner. I'm nauseous.
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Couples who are fertile and do not have children are indeed selfish.
Because income shouldn't matter to a breeding machine.
They don't want to bring new lives into this world that they can then care for.
Like children from rape or incest...
Why? Because they're immature and care only about themselves.
O RLY? Tell me more, Mr. Armchair Psychologist.
I know couples who cannot have children and desperately long for them. Compare them to these wastes of space who believe its their decision to let their family line die with them because they can't be bothered with diaper changing, 2AM feedings, parent-teacher meetings, soccer games, teenage rebellion, tuition fees, etc.
Apples to oranges.
Blah. All part of the new Western culture that says love yourself above anyone, and your every desire should be met
No. YOU FAIL.
- instantly, if not sooner. I'm nauseous."
Then choke on your puke.
I know couples who cannot have children and desperately long for them.
I know children who do not have parents and desperately long for them, why don't these desperate couples adopt a few if they want the joy of raising children?
Ummm, looks like Avatar deleted what he said. Which isn't surprising - Avatar does NOT usually say messed up shit like this. He's not, in all the posts I've read from him, a hardcore "5 rating" fundie.
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And having children at eighteen like in the ole good days, when you're not prepared physically, intellectually or economically isn't selfish either?. Not having children because your health doesn't permit you is selfish too(like my mother, who was a very devout woman)?
"Couples who are fertile and do not have children are indeed selfish. ... I know couples who cannot have children and desperately long for them. "
...and I know teenagers who desperately want to get a tattoo, but cannot because they're too young. I'm old enough. Does this mean I should be forced to get one?
"...they can't be bothered with diaper changing, 2AM feedings, parent-teacher meetings, soccer games, teenage rebellion, tuition fees, etc."
So a kid is a lot of work. Big whoop. So's a bearded iguana. How dare you not buy a bearded iguana! You must be selfish!
Wow... from another post in that thread:
"Many couples long to have a child, but the husband's spouse is infertile."
So... men can't be infertile? It's not mainpage material, but it strikes me as sexist.
Won't someone please think of the inexistant children?
Once again, fundies put so much more importance on people who don't exist than they ever have on people who do. Probably because the latter would require them doing something rather than simply complaining and accusing.
There are a billion reasons why people don't have children. My partner and I aren't going to have children, because 1)He already has 3 grown children (He's 23 years older than me, yeah, yeah)
This rant is concluded.
[massive pedantry]nau·seous (nô'sh?s, -ze-?s)
1. Causing nausea; sickening
Well, then, yes, yes you are!
I'd love to go with a "BABIES EVERYWHERE!" shout, instead a rant!
I don't plan on having any kids because, really, I don't want to. There are other reasons, for example, the fact that everyone from the current administration to the Fundies that backed it believe that I'm incapable of being a good mother because my partner happens to be a woman, I'd rather not bring any child into the world when there are many in this country alone who have been waiting for a loving family for who knows how many years, and the idea of being pregnant makes me a little queasy.
It's not that I "can't be bothered" with it, it's that I don't have the maternal instinct, is all. And there is nothing wrong with admitting that you shouldn't have children. It's not selfishness if you'd rather not bring any "new lives" into the world.
Rant over!
Couples who are fertile and do not have children are indeed selfish. They don't want to bring new lives into this world that they can then care for. Why? Because they're immature and care only about themselves.
...As opposed to people who so desparately want kids, but they simply MUST pass on their own genes, rather than adopt one of the how many millions of children up for adoption in this country, which is not selfish at all!!
As a childfree woman, there are several reasons I don't want kids. Point one being there's too fucking many people on this planet as it is. Also, I'm poor; I'm also smart enough to realize that even if I wanted one I wouldn't be able to support it.
In conclusion, fuck you. Good day sir.
You know, if you learned to focus on the people already in the world, rather than hypothetical people that don't exist, we would all be much better off. But that might require a focus on reality first, which is against the Fundie Manifesto.
What about the poor fertile couples? Or the couples that want to wait a little while to have kids?
Also, our population is way too big already. If a couple of fertile people don't feel like having kids, more power to 'em.
I freely admit to being too selfish to have kids.
I'm a massive introvert. I need DAYS of alone time, not the minutes you can snatch as a parent. And I'm not willing to give up my time to lie around, doing nothing, not having to give a damn, just because some nutter thinks my womb should be constantly inhabited.
Nutz: people who relentlessly have children are selfish, especially those asshats who have 3+ kids.
Dude, my parents had four kids. I agree that Avatar is stupid and all, but shut the fuck up.
Screw him.
I have Aspergers Syndrome, a form of high-functioning autism that can be genetic. Would I do that to a kid?
Not to mention the fact I'm fatal to anything more advanced than a single-celled organism...
"Dude, my parents had four kids. I agree that Avatar is stupid and all, but shut the fuck up."
granted, the statement was unqualified, but there are some people in this world who have way too many kids. (people living in their trailer on dad's minimum wage job with five kids and one on the way) some people can care for lots of kids, but a lot can't.
@anonymous
I think the qualifier he forgot to add is people who just randomly churn out kids for Jeebus, or for the welfare check, or what have you, without a concern for whether they can actually care for the children. That said, one should try and specify.
(For the record, I come from a family of 3 kids)
Maybe God has made your friends infertile for a reason?
Maybe in God's eye's they would be unfit as parents.
I mean if terminating a pregnancy is going against gods will because he makes the babies. Then if he wanted these people to get pregnant, all they have to do is have more faith, and god will "open her womb".
No need for any of that sciency stuff.
Couples who are fertile and do not have children are indeed selfish. They don't want to bring new lives into this world that they can then care for.
Because they're immature and care only about themselves.
can't be bothered with diaper changing, 2AM feedings, parent-teacher meetings, soccer games, teenage rebellion, tuition fees, etc.
All part of the new Western culture that says love yourself above anyone, and your every desire should be met - instantly, if not sooner.
Life can be crushingly unkind and unfair....which doesn't say much for your so-called Creator, does it? Heck, why would he deny good people of working reproductive organs and give them instead to total losers who shouldn't be allowed to look after a pot plant?
Your God would be an A grade cunt, if he existed.
People who do not want children should not have them. You idiots froth at the mouth about abortion, then insist everyone should make babies, even those who have no desire for them. Should non-Christians have kids, too? Because you probably hate them.
"Couples who are fertile and do not have children are indeed selfish. They don't want to bring new lives into this world"
Because they know there's already 6 billion+ people in the world, and only finite resources.
And you don't, Avatar.
Or they care more about how a future child would have it with them, than procuring more sheep for some god or other.
I'm infertile, apparently, but I'm not sure I would have been a good mother even if we could conceive.
Avatar, if you feel so much for these childless couples, why not offer yourself up as a surrogate mother?
Are selfish?, have you considered that they may not be prepared for having children?. Besides, couples who have children but can´t, what can they do for them?, moreover, what can people do..............in general?
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