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Both are legitimate concerns on some level, but put a trans woman and a cis woman in the same situation and it's the trans woman who's disproportionately more likely to be assaulted. Priorities, innit.
Because one concerns male violence, and one concerns trans-male violence, which is to say, about the level of violence you might expect from someone who is pumped full of female hormones and wasn't interested in women in the first place. Add to that the fact that one trans-female is likely to be in there with many men, and one trans-male is likely to be outnumbered by women. Is that too much for you to understand?
@Skide
They are NOT flip sides of the same coin, as I explained.
Because only one side of the argument is trying to claim that the entire purpose of entering the bathroom was to find somebody to assault and that they will absolutely do it every time if you're caught alone with them while the other side worries that if they're attacked it will be excused. A fear that is completely justified as long as there are people like you pushing the former perception giving the violent and gullible what they think is an excuse.
@ Skide
Quite true that assault is assault no matter who the victim or perpetrator is but I think the issue at hand is the active promotion of the idea that you will automatically be in imminent danger by being in the same room as the people being vilified and slandered as inherently predatory rather than any attack that actually occurs or even the measurable odds of it.
@ Kanna
Or at least I hope that's what you're so upset about and not trying to say that after factoring in mass, likelihood of numeric superiority, and comparative potential for physical violence you only consider one of those scenarios a legitimate fear to have or be outraged about in the event it actually happens the way some assholes wave off male rape victims. Just because a transgendered person's fears are much more justifiable doesn't change the weight of a crime once committed.
@Skide
You're right when it comes to prosecution for a criminal act. But the subject of the OP was the FEAR of such a crime, and for the reasons I gave, I think the OP has it exactly backward. Trans women in men's bathrooms have a lot more reason to fear.
Because one is a possible, but still completely theoretical situation, that someone is preaching like it's inevitable to get people to be scared of someone.
The other is a scenario that has ACTUALLY HAPPENED, and PEOPLE GOT HURT OVER.
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