image I don’t believe in vaccinating. The population of earth is way too high and I support natural selection. I don’t want my kids to die but there are other ways to stay healthy.
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So, you want your children to be the winners of a Darwin's Award by Proxy?
How do you stay healthy, and protect yourself from tiny viruses and bacteria that are everywhere and can't be seen? The more idiots like you there are who refuse the best way to stay healthy, the more risk it is that these highly deadly diseases will come back again.
Are YOU vaccinated, honey?
"I don't want my kids to die, BUT ...
Seriously, who SAYS something like that? You're sick.
There's also that way. Lot of people playing the genetic lottery and loosing.
I don't want some redneck telling me Grand dad did everything wrong and lived to 102 so I have to weave through his descendants and find out three died before 20 (This I've done several times, YOU aint your Grand dad! You also didn't win WW2)
There are other ways to stay healthy, including isolating those who refuse to get vaccinated. Nice attitude -- I don't care if other people's kids die, as long as mine are healthy. Hope your neighbors don't have the same attitude, or your kids are doomed.
@Shepard Solus
"@Mister Spak:
It doesn't work that way. When smallpox was running amuck milkmaids who recovered from cowpox were so resistant to smallpox it made Jenner go "hmmmmm".
Even before that people noticed if you survived a commonly deadly disease you never got it again no matter how bad a later epidemic was.
@Mister Spak: There are people who aren't or can't be vaccinated: though rare, some people do have bad reactions to common vaccines (yes, they check), and some are just too young. So there is a danger to the public from unvaccinated children, although it's not directly to those who have been vaccinated in most cases.
@Mister Spak: is the way that it works. The more people the disease infects, the more mutations it undergoes and the more the immunised population in the area is exposed, which is a nasty one-two punch. The unvaccinated give these diseases an easy in from which to spread by giving them a place to fester and evolve. Vaccination isn't an impervious barrier. It's not a video game power-up that blocks a damage type forever once you equip it. That's why herd immunity is important. Even the vaccinated can catch a disease through prolonged exposure or even brief exposure to a significantly evolved form of the disease.
Vaccination's power primarily lies in depriving a disease of breeding grounds until it eventually loses its race against our immune systems. We didn't stop catching smallpox and polio an TB because we became invulnerable to them. We stopped catching them because we starved them out. They're still around but they're weak. Feed them, though, and they'll flare up again. We've already seen a rise in TB outbreaks.
Even before that people noticed if you survived a commonly deadly disease you never got it again no matter how bad a later epidemic was. do promote the spread of genetic traits which confer an inherent resistance or immunity to them but they do it by killing off everyone without those traits. Vaccination does not confer such traits.
@Shepherd Solus
My mother in the 90s was working for TB Control for Montgomery County Maryland Health and Human services. It was still a pretty big problem back then. As far as I know, it is still bad just less so. And is why I continue to be vaccinated myself. So I wouldn't say it is something we stopped catching, but we were better able to contain it. Though I mostly agree with you
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