Lets look at Africa, where they have had millions of years of evolution and social practice which is genetic as well as ingrained.
If Africa is all black men, who has held them down for the millions of years? Look at any African nation, where are the successes?
If we want to start talking about racism, one has to look no further than Africa, as they have loads of black on black violence. To the point where they have traditions operating right to today. Other than tribal raiding and corruption, there is one greater.... genocide.
Look at Zimbabwe, South Africa, any nation about 50 nations in Africa. Who is suppressing them? Why are they so backwards and illiterate for 2012?
I do not think you can create greater confusion than what the blacks can create.... right down to the “pResident”
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If we want to start talking about racism, one has to look no further than Africa, as they have loads of black on black violence. To the point where they have traditions operating right to today. Other than tribal raiding and corruption, there is one greater.... genocide.
'Cause it's not like white people have ever killed each other, raided towns, or formed corrupt societies. And a white person most definitely did not attempt to systematically wipe out an entire ethnic group a mere 70 years ago.
How can anyone be this idiotic and still use a computer?
Colonialism.
Post-colonial puppet regimes held in place by MI5 and CIA through the cold war era.
World Bank and IMF policy. Creating debt, and forcing a "One crop" agrarian economy... backed by UN and American mercenarys.
Shell Oil, and it's hired mercnarys.
Mali and Swahili says that they were doing pretty well until colonialism.
"You ban slave trade? We make you slaves in your own countries!"
Though some countries are recovering nicely and there's been major advancements in helping move past colonialism and cold war legacy. They aren't helpless and it's just as racist when people treat them that way. But colonialism is a difficult thing to recover from.
@His4Life
I find it interesting that you're using "our" to describe the lands. Aren't you an American? Wouldn't it be better suited to say "my ancestor's lands?"
Maybe I'm being nitpicky, but the concept of ancestral ownership/guilt/whatever seems dangerous to me. It's what leads to white racists touting all the inventions of white people as if they hold the goddamn patents themselves.
1. "social practice" is not "genetic".
2. Africa is not "all black men".
3. Depends what you mean by "successes".
4. Europe has "white on white violence". China has "Chinese on Chinese violence". What does that prove?
5. "Who is suppressing them?" International financial institutions like the IMF and World Bank, who force them to open up their markets to exploitation by the west and produce for export.
6. The legacy of imperialism, which deliberately pursued a divide and conquer strategy which exacerbated tribal and ethnic rivalries which are still playing out today.
"If we want to start talking about racism, one has to look no further than Africa, as they have loads of black on black violence."
I'm confused. Why would you attribute racist motives to "black on black violence"? In any case, do you really think that there is no "white on white" violence happening in America?
I'm sick of having to be a broken record for these morons who read Rudyard Kipling one too many times. You can easily look up the history of Africa and African civilizations on the Internet:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Africa
That's why God invented Google. lol In a 1st world country there is really no excuse for this many people to be this ignorant when all they have to do is type "Africa" in a search engine.
Also, Africa is the continent with the most rapid GDP growth and rapidly industrializing nations right now. More so than Asia:
http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2011/01/daily_chart
"Why are they so backwards and illiterate for 2012?"
Zimbabwe is the way it is largely due to them having hyperinflation worse than 1920s Germany, thanks to Mugabe taking crooked loans from the IMF and World Bank (they have a history of doing that to developing countries) and printing a lot of money to pay off the interest. Mugabe also spent little effort investing in industrialized farming during his years in power, creating a dire food crisis with high population growth but little growth in food output. A lot of the black farmers still rely on subsistence farming and medieval farming techniques - you can see how this would be a problem for an industrializing country with a growing population.
South Africa is one of the world's up and coming developing countries, with sustained Real GDP growth over 5.5% since the late 90s and a middle class boom since the early 2000s. As of 2010 it was listed as a "Newly Industrialized Country" and is a member of the BRICS economic union of rising countries. Their largest problem is violent crime and continuing steep economic inequality. But the same could be said of all developing countries (and the US). The much-lauded China has huge problems with poverty, inequality between urban and rural areas and economic exploitation by capitalist bosses who sometimes withhold pay or close up shop suddenly and fire everyone with no warning or severence pay. In the 60s and 70s China had a HUGE crime problem worse than South Africa (the "Cultural Revolution"). Upwards of 10 million people were killed.
@ Nezumi:
"Is the weird capitalization on "pResident" supposed to mean something, or is it just a typo? And if it means something, what the hell does it mean?"
I think it might mean 'permanent resident' - the idea being that Obama is that, rather than a (natural-born) citizen. In other words, this guy is a birther. No surprise there <_<
(btw. Vman here, forgot to login)
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