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discombobulated #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[In response to allegations of people altering the Bible]

Theres no doubt in my mind that God would not let his word be altered in any way he did not want it to be. If Sodam and Gomorah were struck dead just 4 lying, then why can't some monk be struck dead?

Chilocanth #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Unbelieving parents do not have a covenant with God and are in his disfavor. Their children would not be under a "spiritual blanket" and would face the same punishment as their parents.

I think this idea is supported by the cleansing of Canaan. Joshua was commanded to kill every living thing, which included children and babies. Infants were considered unclean since they were members of a pagan culture that their parents participated. Israeli children were considered clean because they were part of God's chosen culture.

Warchant Warrior: Halo Master #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[In discussion on Biblical atrocities, replying to 'If God told you to slaughter a baby would you do it?']

if God walked through my front door and told me that I was suppose to help in wiping out in an entire nation then yes i would

but you'll just say that I must be some horrible person that follows a horrible God...oh well deal with it

Chilocanth #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[Advice to a woman whose husband is serving an 11 year jail sentence]

"For richer, for poorer. For better or for worse." has got to mean something. You both vowed to stay with each other no matter what. If you love him, stay with him. If you don't love him, you should still stay with him. It's a commitment.

Technically, hubby has the discretion to divorce his wife in this case and it wouldn't be a sin, but then both of them would need to stay single until one of them passed away.

ArchxAngel #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[On the Bible]

never in history has it been scientificlly determined to have a single flaw.

You will find websites saying other wise,
course you will find websites saying that the haullocost (sp?) never happened either and that the jews fronted the whole thing.

khazul #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Of course Harry Potter isn't about Christianity. The reasons it opposes Christianity is that it supports magic. Magic is bad according to Christians. In the old testament you were commanded to kill anyone who was a witch. So you don't think kids really get into Harry Potter adn try to do magic and stuff? Ok, that's you opinion. All I want to ask is when is the last time you worked with kids? L[ord]O[f]T[he]R[ings] is alright because magic isn't it's main theme and if you know anything about the books the only people who could use magic were semi-gods sent from the west (or god) to help battle Sauron. It's the Christian idea of God sending the Holy Spirit to empower and help us in our daily struggle against Satan.

Ander #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

All objects whose creation has been observed have been man-made, and require design and intelligence. Even a ball of mud requires design and intelligence. We've never observed something being made without design, intelligence, or method."

"It's pretty much a fact that if you ask anybody if they like grapes with seeds or grapes with no seeds better, they will say grapes with no seeds. The way grapes produce is by using feces as fertilizer to spread their seed that is eaten, but if "early man" only ate seedless fruits as a preference (and he spit out all the seeds), how would fruits reproduce in the first place?"

"Humans wear clothes. Scientists are still trying to decipher at how clothes came to be. But the point is, we all wear clothes, but why? Because it's in our "genetic makeup" to wear clothes when it gets cold out? What about in tropical areas? Why not just move there and go naked? Even though people wear less there, they don't go naked. Man is shameful of his nakedness because he discovered it to be that way (Genesis). Also, if man developed his shamefulness of his nakedness over time, how would the species reproduce "millions of years ago", if a man was afraid to be naked in front of a woman?"

"The Creation was directly observed by Adam and Eve

PrincessCali #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

This entire premise, that God will send you to hell, is wrong. People choose their own final destination. You can as easily choose to go to hell or heaven, all you need to do is accept the gift of salvation that is freely offered. If fear or your ego prevents you from doing so...Don't blame God. You made the choice on your own.

Now stop whining! It's childish and it hurts my head.

Chilocanth #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

No one, without God, can love someone purely. Human love has motives and personal desires. God's love is unconditional.

Consider relief workers. Christian and secular groups both go to remote places to help people. Some would say that both groups were loving. I'd say that for the most part, the Christians are going out of love for God and people. I'd say that the secular types are going to satisfy a need within themselves (warm fuzzies, "I made a difference, looks good on a resume, etc).

Unregenerated sinners can not love someone with God's love.

ArchxAngel #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[On the Canaanites, who in the Old Testament were slaughtered, men, women and children, by the invading Hebrews]

The people against God was actually on Gods land and thus was TRESSPASSING, and infact it says that if a person is tresspassing, you are allowed to defend your home even if death is needed for protection- it is not considered murder. No sin

ArchxAngel #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

If you learn from your parents that apples are purple, and that you beleive the color red is purple and pruple is red, you beleive that it is true.

However, unless you stay at home your whole, in security of your limitations, you will soon find out taht others thik differently and that they infact realized the truth.

ArchxAngel #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[The fundie definition of 'freethinking'!]

It wasn't choosing to be a free thinker, it was choosing to be free of thinking.

Our mind has limits, and everything we judge and measure comes from those limitations.

Freeing yourself of them give you the clear veiw of the truth outside of the walls that block you. That wall being 'thinking'"

russell182 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[Sarcastically replying to a person who wanted to unite all religions in a utopian world]

If you want to unite all religions let Pakistan and India engage in nuclear war and no more Hindus. Get a Palestinian to sneak a nuke into Israel and take himself along with Judaism out. Drop a bomb on Russia and blame the Chinese... no more Buddhists. Let the Americans take care of Islam in the Middle East. Threaten to kill all other people who worship idolaters and either kill them or force them to convert. Ask God to destroy all atheists. Then we have a united world religion.

Ander #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[Arguing for the veracity of the Columbine martyrdom story about Cassie Bernall after it was exposed as an urban legend]

Hmm.. Maybe things we THINK are PROVEN, are really HOAXES.

In fact, this HOAX existed so LONG, someone wrote a BOOK about it.

W.Y.R.I.W.Y.S.2 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[On Jehovah's Witnesses]

I don't know if i'm wrong, but i heard that they believe that only 144 000 people go to heaven because it's literaly wrote as this somewhere in the bible, while milions of them still anoying people knocking at their door trying to push their retarded beliefs and convert while it seems clear that they're just a bounch of lost dumbfuck who better likes to see their childrens die than to get blood transfusion...

ArchxAngel #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Plus, the bible hasn't yet been proven wrong or fallable. Yes there have been several links and websites saying they have, but shoot guys, there is a website proving that there wasn't a haullacost(sp?) and that all the jews fronted the 6 million deaths to make the germans look bad. If people can be so easily thrown by that one little thing from a huge action that happened, then of course you will be thrown and lead to beleive something about something so minor and detailed.

ArchxAngel #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[Replying to 'if none-Christian faith healers can achieve similar results as Christian ones, it would seem to point to something other than the Holy Spirit doing the actual work. A trancendent universal force independent of specific religion, or ancestral spirits, perhaps?']

You are right, there is some other spirit doing the work, and its name is satan.

God is black and white ladies and Gentleman, and if you are not saved by Christ, then you are against Him and doing satans work whether you want to or not. God is black and white ladies and Gentleman, and if you are not saved by Christ, then you are against Him and doing satans work whether you want to or not.

4 of satans best lies

1. Making you think you are not saved
2. Making you think you are saved
3. making you think that doing Good will get you eternal life
4. Letting you gain wordly intelligence which proclaims to be above Gods word causing you to believe that there is no such place.

ArchxAngel #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

looking at rocks with instruments that we made with our own so called intelligence with nothing to actually compare anything to.

versus a book of historically correct facts and evidence of a perfect geneollogy that dates back nearly 6500 years ago...

and I saw this...
What evidence are you considering? Nothing has been proven either way, that is b/c of the lack of or lack of reliability of the so called evidence.

We christian discard all your scientist's so called evidence for the same reason scientist discard the bible.

I repeat, your evidence is no more valid than the bible.

russell182 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[After it was pointed out that the 'separation from God' version of hell is logically impossible if he's omnipresent]

No, you being present with God cause He's omnipresent even though you don't believe in Jesus is the stupidest thing ever.

russell182 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

The aids disease spreads itself through pre-marital unprotected sex among the homosexual/heterosexual/bi population, intrevenous drugs, blood transfusions etc all of which God is against."

"Condoms are of man and not of God, therefor condoms are a way of cheating the system which God has established against these sins.

Gerrard Pedersen #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[After another very specific prediction of the Big Bang theory was confirmed]

i dont see how this proves the big bang,

the scientists could be making wrong conclusions, it could maybe be somthing else,

who am i supposed to believe, scientists who dont know shit compared to God, or God??

Ander #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[After being told Christians can accept science just fine]

In anyway, why should any Chrstian compromise his/her beliefs to make them fit into the 'scientific truth'? Didn't Christianity come first? When the Mayans were conqurered by los conquistadores, they integrated their religious beliefs into Catholicalism. As a result, their religion was basically destroyed. We see the similar happening right here.

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