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Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Canada's Trudeau corrects woman for using 'mankind' at town hall"

(cut-and-paste of Fox news story follows, link here: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/02/06/canadas-trudeau-corrects-woman-for-using-mankind-at-town-hall.html

Lady Checkmate:
Truedummy strikes again.

tranna boy:
this is our prime minister at his finest:
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Priceright89:
Lost: Canada's balls.

Speedskater Rex:
He doesn’t like to use the word because many people in Canada don’t consider himself man enough to run their country. He’s an ineffectual girly boy who can’t keep promises and wants to re-integrate ISIS terrorists into society. Pathetic “leader”.

Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D. #fundie disqus.com

Sally Edwards:

The Christian will forgive your lack of discursive faculties relative to the fact that it was not stated that the carnally monikered "Big Bang" was a part of secular pseudo-theory of evolution. The fact that you ignored the thesis of the T-man's post tells us all we need to know about you, your reasoning capabilities, and your ignorance of the Christian Bible! Rather than concerning yourself with my degrees, including the Ph.D. that I earned at a secular university in California, focus on studying the Christian Bible in the hope that one day you might TRULY repent of your sins and come to Jesus to have the stature and wherewithal to verbalize anything that truly matters to any Christian within this illustrious symposium.

Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D. #fundie disqus.com

frederick:

The answer to your question is very simple, and it would help you to use the Christian Bible (AV1611!) and not corrupted (per)versions relative to your Biblical enlightenment. To put it in a very simple form, the answer is yes, they are the same. There are several words in the language of the Heeb that refer to God: El, Elohim, Baruh, and a few others. All of these simply mean God. El can mean either god or God. Elohim is the plural form and is an equivalent of the royal "we", which ultimately means capital-G God. Simple stuff! Lord can mean two things: either God or Jesus are praised as the Lord or it is a substitute for God's name after the manner of the Jew's tradition of not saying it outloud and instead saying "Lord" in the Hebrew language. In fact, Heebs, even before they became heretics, forgot the proper pronunciation of God's name, so nobody really knows if it's Yahweh, Yahova/Jahova, or Yehova/Jehova!

But not to worry, since we have our Jesus of the Christian Bible, we can avoid all the confusion of the Jew, by simply referring to our beloved Jesus the Christ! Simple, isn't it?!

In the name of our Savior,
Brother T

WorldGoneCrazy-NotMurderedYet #fundie disqus.com

Pro-death is forever.

Once you have killed that innocent child, there is no undoing that.

All of your questions pertain to killing those living humans outside of the womb as well as inside of the womb.

Based on the "logic" of your questions, you have just justified killing the homeless, the uninsured, all children up to the age of adulthood, the disabled, the incarcerated, impoverished children in other countries, children with cancer, victims of gang violence, HIV victims, and LGBT.

Are you Muslim by any chance - you sure do love death for all kinds of people. You left out sex selection abortions and honor killings for little girls - all to save your precious State money.

Kill them all so they don't suffer, right?!? That is YOUR view. Thank you for your transparency!

It must be so easy to be "pro-choice" when YOU are not the one being aborted.

Ken Faivor #fundie disqus.com

Anytime you atheist attack God it's usually because you're bitter towards Him. I don't even think [Disqus user] goo gle is an atheist. Most of you here are not atheist, just mad at God for something that you think He did wrong, some injustice that befell you that you blame God for........And this site is your vengeance. As if you can hurt God in any way. Or some of you just plain want to live in the flesh without any restrictions. It's not because you don't believe He exist. Most of you aren't really atheist at all, or you sure wouldn't be on a religion channel kicking something that don't exist..........Who do you think you're fooling?

Ken Faivor #fundie disqus.com

TSAwesome:
So-called "tough love", coined by James Dobson, has harmed and put more kids on the street homeless by their own parents, simply for being born gay.
No -- it's not "love" at all.

Ken Faivor:
Bleeding heart for those who live in sin are you?..... Not me, sin has consequences. This has to be learned, he earlier the better. If it's not learned here where will you learn it?........ In hell?........To late.
This is why mothers don't make good fathers......They like to coddle.

TSAwesome:
Wow.
Just... wow.
You advocate throwing your own child out on the street simply because they were born gay?
That's the definition of heartless.
(And insulting me because I'm a mother? Seriously?)

Ken Faivor:
Yes, seriously.......A big problem today. Kids being brought up without a proper father figure......Maybe that's why some are gay.....You think? Mommy's boy's.

TSAwesome:
No, that's not why they are gay. They're gay because that's how they were born. Everyone's orientation is an innate human quality.
You think disowning your child, throwing them out and making them homeless is acceptable?
No, it's neither "tough" nor "love".
It's *cowardice* and *fear*, directed at your own child.

Ken Faivor:
You being so defensive makes me think you have a gay son......Do you?

TSAwesome:
I'm a lesbian. And I know people who've experienced the reality of so-called "tough love" -- the reality of receiving hate, fear and indifference along with a complete lack of care for their own children.
I didn't experience that when I came out, because my family didn't disown me, throw me out and try to explain away the reality of having a gay child. They continued to love and accept me as I do for them. In fact, precisely *because* they didn't listen to Dobson's nonsense, our family relationship is stronger than it has ever been and our faith has grown immeasurably as well.

Ken Faivor:
Well, your family can accept you as a lesbian if they want to, but God won't.......How do you feel about that?

Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D. #fundie disqus.com

Sterling:

You mean you know little girls that walk around with .44 Magnums as their carry pistol? LOL! Maybe you ought to get them a DEs just to balance them out!

Not to brag, but this Christian owns 57 handguns, and not some junk like the redneck Ruger. I'll stick to my Grand Raptor, CZ 75, and my .40 S&W chambered P229. The ladies can have more suitable armaments, like the P-64, or compact M&P in .45 which is accurate and easy to field strip.

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Relative to you liking the CZ 75, you should try the vz.58 rifle, if you haven't already. After acquiring a few for myself and friends several years ago, back when Obozo was trying to ban guns and ordered the Feds to purchase obscene amounts of ammo to drive up the prices, I'd say it's a must at any Christian shootout or youth training camp!

Regards the woman, you're kidding us, right? Right? Surely a Christian woman knows her place in the Godly scheme of things, and will not take upon herself to make any choice without explicit acceptance from her husband! Therefore, ultimately, it is up to the man to decide. While usually, the woman may be allowed her own choices, sometimes, a manly decision may be required! (e.g. Hebrews 12:6 in context of 1 Cor 11:3).

In the name of our Savior,
Brother T

Tele Man #fundie disqus.com

Okay, I tried, but I can't hold my tongue any longer on your IDIOTIC posts.

This is exactly the kind of presuppositional FOOLISHNESS that belches out of the mouths of armchair "scientists" when common core meets the FAITH of the Church of Darwin.

The absence of kangaroo fossils are not remarkable anymore than you not seeing fossils from roadkill today.

How much roadkill do you EVER see fossilized? ZERO! Why aren't you WHINING about that FACT?

Likewise your a-priori commitment to the fossilizing of kangaroos as they "hopped to Australia" REQUIRES rapid entombment to fossilize. Were you expecting another flood to entomb the survivors of the flood?

Here's a really easy to understand article if you can't extrapolate what I'm saying:

https://answersingenesis.or...

Lady Checkmate #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "The Truth About Sodom & Gomorrah"

God warns Abraham that He will destroy Sodom because of it's sin: Abraham pleads for Sodom(because Lot lived there)
Genesis 18:16-33 (KJV) (scriptural text omitted)

God destroys Sodom & Gomorrah (like He promised Abraham He would do, because of Sodom's sin)
Genesis 19 (KJV) (scriptural text omitted)

God Remembers Abraham
Genesis 19:27-29 (KJV) (scriptural text omitted)

Robin Egg:
Excellent article. Yet, the homosexual crowd insists that the Bible does not deal with homosexuality.

Just Mat:
What's equally bad to those who try to deny God or try to believe they won't have to pay any consequence are those who try to convince themselves and other they were born that way or that God is OK with their abomination.

Lady Checkmate:
Amen!
There are those who have come out of that lifestyle choice and admitted that they were lying when they made those statements. Those who make those statements are intentionally deceptive, manipulative, flat out liars and show signs of a reprobate mind. We're all tempted with sin. They feed their temptation and want to pretend it's just how they are...no, they fed their temptation and allowed their flesh to lead them versus allowing God to lead them. For example, I'm attracted to men; however, since my divorce I've been celibate. It's NOT that I haven't been tempted, just like any other human being, BUT instead of following my flesh, I follow God (which I will admit is CONSTANT. I'll also admit it was VERY hard when I tried dating this one guy, BUT God is faithful and kept me in that dating situation. I hope that helps and edifies someone because it was NOT shared for any other reason.
God bless you, JustMat!

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Dreamers to Democrats: We're tired of your lies"

(Fox News cut-and-paste follows, headline here: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/08/dreamers-to-democrats-were-tired-your-lies.html)

Lady Checkmate:
They just realized they've been being used as pawns. The alt-left did/does the same thing to ALL minorities. They tried their hardest to convince women that they should reject chivalry, avoid hard working heterosexual gentleman and insist that we believe the lie that we're every bit physically equal to men, lol. The truth is a man pretending to me a woman IS equal because he's a man, BUT a biological woman is not equal to men in physical strength. Furthermore, they've tried to convince AAsvthat our skin cooor is sinful just like their lifestyle choices. They're racist, sexist and silly as heck. No one should trust those liars.

Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D. #fundie disqus.com

Wyatt O'Keefe:

It is important to keep in the mind the Biblical principles relative to the status of the female within the Godly scheme of things. The female was created for the male. Not for herself! Therefore, the Christian Bible keeps things consistent in that when it talks about a male, it often implies that his female is there with him. It is a simple logical syllogism that when talking of the male of a particular kind of an animal, our Bible implies that his female was there with him.

Just as important is to analyze this scientifically. Relative to the command to take seven pairs of clean animals onto the Ark, I have discussed this matter with the utmost esteemed baraminologist, Dr. Todd Elder. He enlightened me regards to a bird called Laysan duck, which went almost extinct in Hawaii, up to where there were only seven adults left. But this duck managed to recover, and now the population numbers in the 100s. In fact, soon Christians may be able to go duck hunting when vacationing on Hawaii! Why does this matter? Simple: because it refutes the evilutionist lies that such population is not enough for "genetic diversity" needed to multiply a whole kind of an animal!

As we know, the Earth was created for the humans. Therefore, it was important that every kind of the clean animal recovered to a healthy stock after the flood so that the people would have their food. The unclean animals didn't really matter, therefore, two pairs of each kind were enough. Because it would not have mattered if some tiger or toad didn't recover to a healthy stock or died off, since the people did not need these animals in the first place! Isn't it great how our Bible is not only spiritually, but also scientifically, true?!

In the name of our Savior,
Brother T

Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D. #fundie disqus.com

Wyatt O'Keefe:

Have you ever noticed how evilutionists, when backed into a corner, attempt to retort their deficiencies by saying that they don't have an answer? Like, where did the Big Bang come from? Evilutionist: "ummm, we don't know, but you know, secular scientists are working on it..." LOL!

In the same vein, we can tell the evilutionist relative to his supposed "gotcha" questions, that the creation scientists are working on it. How did the kangaroo get to Australia? We don't know, but creation scientists are working on it!

Now here's another thing: did you know that tens of billions of US taxpayer dollars go to support secular research in the US? And because of anti-Christian discrimination, creation researchers do not get a dime of this public money! So, in order to be fair, the evilutionist/secularist satanists that ask such questions need to petition their legislators to allocate scientific funding to creation research, pronto! If only 1 billion dollars a year, a very small fraction of our nation's research budget (which is mostly wasted), would go to creation research, the pagans wouldn't have to wait very long to receive their answers!

In the same vein, I encourage every Christian to contact their congressmen, and let them know that we need funding for real research that delivers real answers that even the satanists (Matthew 12:30) are inquiring about!

In the name of our Savior,
Brother T

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "The FBI paid Geek Squad employees as informants"

(Fox News cut-and-paste follows, story here: www.foxnews.com/tech/2018/03/07/fbi-paid-geek-squad-employees-as-informants.html)

Tam:
This is not new news. Maybe I should rephrase that. This may be the first time it's been reported on, but it public information. Anyone who has been in best buy and read the geek squad tos disclosures knows this.

Lady Checkmate:
Tam, please do us a favor and comment on topic, not on CMs (nor their comments). I had to remove one of your comments where you commented on how the CMs here commented on this thread. Please comment on topic or move on.
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Thanks for understanding.

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Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Male Escort Ousts 36 Vatican Officials Who Purchased Children For Sex"

(copy and paste of story which originally appeared here: http://yournewswire.com/male-escort-36-vatican-officials-children-sex/)

Mypoint13:
About 12 demacrats were recently convicted and sentenced for about the same crimes. Everything from trafficking to furry subculture parties with underage entertainers. Maybe they were catholic.

Lady Checkmate:
Not all Catholics are pedophiles, but that's what the alt-left wants everyone to think to deflect from the fact that the alt-left actually does sexualize children and seeks to legalize child rape. They deserve nothing.

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Florida father, daughter caught having sex in their backyard, reports say"

(Fox News cut-and-paste follows, here's the link: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/04/florida-father-daughter-caught-having-sex-in-their-backyard-reports-say.html)

Lady Checkmate:
The alt left will argue that they're two consenting adults AND what they're doing is "love winning"...notice the lower case 'l' in love. God is Love and does not condone, honor nor celebrate sin nor abominations.

US Showdown:
Democrats will be democrats......

Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D. #fundie disqus.com

Breiter:

Baring the fact that your inane posting has nothing to do with the topic at hand, the fake Westboro (Hellsboro) Lieberal Baptist Church has been rebuked by a number of Christian Preachers. Take for example the illustrious James Lyman, a.k.a. James the Preacher, who made them look the fools that they are on numerous occasions. How did he do that? Simple: he used the Christian Bible to expose and rebuke their iniquities! Simple isn't it?

The Christian also must inform you, that relative to the message posited by the boy in the picture, there is nothing wrong with it whatsoever. Does our Jesus hate all who are not real Bible-believing Christians, a.k.a. all satanists? Of course He does! Ps. 5:5 illustrates this point without any reservation! To wit: "The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity." Got it?

As the Christian studies the Christian Bible, we also know the pagan entities that make up these "foolish" and other "workers of iniquity". Romans 1, and many others others, state it so plainly even most pagans get it! The complete list of the various heathen entities would be way too long to post here, but you can get a glimpse into the subject matter by perusing the blog of our national treasure, the esteemed Pastor Jerry Dixon: https://pastorjerrydixon.wo...

See yourself in there? If so, there is good news for you: even someone like you can get Saved and be Loved! All you have to do is to repent of your sins and to genuinely and truly accept our beloved Jesus as your Lord and Savior. Simple stuff!

You can thank the Christian later for showing you true Christian Love relative to offering you the good news of the Gospel.

Brother T

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Anti-gun activists alter billboard ad to read, 'Shoot a School Kid'"

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(caption below photo: An activist group says it altered a billboard in Las Vegas to read, "Shoot a School Kid Only $29." (Associated Press)

Lady Checkmate:
That's alt-left humor. The idiots think they made a point, y'know, other than making the point that they're idiots.

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "ABC News silent after more than 30,000 calls over 'View' star Joy Behar's 'anti-Christian bigotry'"

(cut-and-paste of Fox News story, link here: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/02/28/abc-news-silent-after-more-than-30000-calls-over-view-star-joy-behars-anti-christian-bigotry.html)

Lady Checkmate:
Double-standard OR support of bigotry against Christians?? Either way, it's blatant hypocrisy and hate.

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Lady Checkmate:
"Normally you would think abc and the advertisers would fear the bad publicity."
Yes, unless their offense is against Christians. Remember they're a part of the group who believes:

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Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "YouTube has tapped alt-left (i.e.,far-left) group to help police content, report says"

(from Fox news)

YouTube has enlisted the far-left Southern Poverty Law Center to assist with policing content, according to The Daily Caller.

The law center, or SPLC, bills itself as a civil rights organization that is “dedicated to fighting hate and bigotry, but was accused by Politico in 2017 of “overstepping its bounds.”

The SPLC’s site proudly declares that it has “toppled institutional racism and stamped out remnants of Jim Crow segregation; destroyed some of the nation’s most violent white supremacist groups; and protected the civil rights of children, women, the disabled, immigrants and migrant workers, the LGBT community, prisoners, and many others who faced discrimination, abuse or exploitation.” However, Politico asked if “SPLC is overplaying its hand” by “becoming more of a partisan progressive hit operation than a civil rights watchdog” during the Trump administration.

“Critics say the group abuses its position as an arbiter of hatred by labeling legitimate players ‘hate groups’ and ‘extremists’ to keep the attention of its liberal donors and grind a political ax,” Politico’s Ben Schreckinger wrote.

The controversial group is one of the organizations that YouTube has selected to help police the site for extremist content, The Daily Caller reported, citing “a source with knowledge of the arrangement.”

YouTube’s parent company, Google, did not respond to a request for confirmation.

While several of YouTube’s partners in the program used to help flag hateful content on the platform have publicly said they’re participating, others remains concealed by a confidentiality agreement, according to The Daily Caller.

The SPLC did not immediately respond to request for comment.

“The SPLC’s close involvement in policing content on YouTube is likely to cause consternation among conservatives who worry that they may not be treated fairly,” Daily Caller associated editor Peter Hasson wrote.

Hasson pointed to a 2013 shooting at the Family Research Council headquarters, when Floyd Lee Corkins II plead guilty to committing an act of terrorism after attacking the facility because the SPLC labeled it a hate group. The SPLC continues to publish and update a “hate map” on its website that details locations of groups it deems hateful. Corkins admitted to using the map when he decided to attack the Family Research Council, according to the Washington Examiner.

YouTube’s global policy chief, Juniper Downs, wrote to the Senate Commerce Committee last month and said that the company added 50 groups to its “Trusted Flagger Program” in 2017. It’s unclear when the SPLC joined the program.

“We are taking a tougher stance on videos that may be offensive, but do not violate our policies,” Downs told the committee.

Google has claimed that the program will combat violence and hate on its platform, but Hasson wrote that “it also provides little transparency, forcing users to take Google’s word that they’re being treated fairly.”

Lady Checkmate:
It may be time to turn off youtube.

Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D. #fundie disqus.com

SiiRobertson:

Well said in the name of the Lord! Now watch all the Cathlics run away with their tails between their legs, like the cowardly puppies that they are! LOL! Or maybe one or two of them will run to their priests and Jesuits and ask them to cook up some retort. As a true Christian, I hope for the later. That way we can make their pagan priests and other clergy look the fools that they are. It may not get the Papist to renounce his heathenism/satanism, but it can help those who don't know better relative the understanding of the Cathlic and his false church and false faith.

Relative the scripture, aren't we glad that as Christians we have the Christian Bible in Jesus' own AV1611? We often have pagans ask whether it matters if we use true Scripture or the false Alexandrian translations. What a great example we got here, whereby in our KJV neither the verses of Acts 6:8 nor those of Luke 1:28 say what's claimed in the Alexandrian corruptions!

We must pray for the Salvation of the deceived Cathlic, so that hopefully there are Elect among them, and they will renounce their satanism (Matthew 12:30), accept the true Jesus, and avoid the otherwise inevitable hellfire!

Praise the Lord!
Brother T

Susan #conspiracy disqus.com

It is all smoke and mirrors. Part of the Hegelian Dialectic. We have NO idea what the truth of anything is.....no idea at all, since the Deep State has total control of MSM and so can control all our perceptions and emotions. Just like the Las Vegas event----and 9-11, etc. etc., whatever pushes their agenda so they can get total control of everything, so our country will be totally destroyed and taken over by the Chinese for the NWO.

WorldGoneCrazy-NotMurderedYet #fundie disqus.com

I was an atheist into my 5th decade! But, except for a few years around college, I knew that abortion was wrong.
Not long after Roe v Wade, my Mom pulled me aside and told me that abortion was OK. I said "What about the baby?" She said "We don't have to think about the baby - it will be OK."
I was still pretty young, and this conversation went on for several iterations, and so for a few years I thought to myself "Well, maybe there are emergency situations where it is OK." But, I could never get over that question "What about the baby?" and my Mom's reply that we don't have to consider him or her - the baby.
It creeped me out, frankly, and when I see so many pro-abortion arguments that are completely devoid of ANY consideration whatsoever for the child, it still creeps me out. it's like the child in the womb is completely invisible to them. (And this despite advances in ultrasound images of the preborn child,
and pictures and videos of abortion, which were not around much in those days.)
But, my Mom NEVER questioned that the baby was a baby - and this was in the years right after Roe.
So, that is why I believe that on settled science (the human in the womb is a human, the baby in the womb is a baby, etc) and the minimal morality that we do not execute the innocent, I think that ANYONE can know that abortion is wrong - if they are sincere and rational truth-seekers.
But, I will always be inspired by secularists who speak up against it!

WorldGoneCrazy-NotMurderedYet #fundie disqus.com

Rapists, sex traffickers, pimps, and pedophiles all love abortion mills, because that is where they take their victims to have the "evidence" of their crimes destroyed.
Abusive bro-aborts love them as well, because they can kill off their "child support obligations" there.

Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D. #fundie disqus.com

Albert Swearenegen:

Your running away from a simple Biblical discussion, with your tail between your legs, is rather telling relative to your Biblical ignorance. Even more so is your condemnation of Biblical rebuke as done by the preacher boy in the OP, and by so many other street preachers, including yours truly! In fact, the T-man was preaching for the past three day to high school students in the disgustingly sinful California. Have you ever tried doing that? I think NOT! I bet you wouldn't last two minutes of standing on top of your car or van parked near a pagan secular high school and preaching to a bunch of arrogant, candya$$ whimps who do not have the parents or pastors to put a boot up their behinds and explain them what awaits them if they don't come Jesus.

To put it bluntly, it is those like you, who avoid "offending" pagans by calling a spade a spade, or "offending" harlots by calling them such, or "offending" some parents by explaining the horrors of hell to their children, or "offending" some lieberals by telling them that Jesus hates (Ps. 5:5) the unSaved, that are screwing it up for everyone! The Christian can only encourage you to read the Christian Bible, AV 1611, and accept ALL that it says in it's full historical-grammatical context! That would include the "harsh language" of John 8:44, Matthew 23, Ezekiel 23, and many others. Also it would include our Jesus KILLING those that displease Him with hemorrhoids, smiting people to death, being "mean" to the lebidisian and the sodomite in Romans 1, and aborting babies! Yes, I am talking about Him as the God of both the New AND the Old Testaments. Praise Him and His love for His true followers, His children!

The Christian will leave you with some food for thought:

Just maybe in the aftermath, you will do some serious Bible study and will be able to proverbially run with the "big dogs" relative to preaching the Word of the Christian Bible.

In the name of our Savior,
Brother T

rueangel #fundie #homophobia #racist disqus.com

rueangel:
Well, certainly, any right thinking person must agree, that, any ,..well rounded,..5 year old should have a working knowledge of ,..male on male anal sex,..but perhaps, the subjects of the use of ,..whips, or fisting,.. should be not be introduced until the child is, at least, 6,..
Ya think,.?

Sally Edwards:
I'm not surprised this story outrages you if that's the first thing that comes to your mind when you think of homosexuality. Let's just take the most extreme sexual practices and define them all by that. By the way, where did you ever get the idea that straight people WEREN'T into all the things you listed?

rueangel:
So,.. where id you ever get the idea that I thought that these practices were limited to gay males,.?
But, anyway, while the perversions listed above are ,..occasionally, practiced by,..some,.. herteros, they are key component among gay males, & I believe that fisting is, pretty much, a gay male practice

Sally Edwards:
Practiced by what, a fraction of a percentage of them? You can't single out an entire group for any specific sexual practice. And no, I Googled "fisting" and there are entire books written about it.

rueangel:
The fact of the matter is, that, male on male anal penetration of the anus , by the penis, is the most common male homosexual activity. And,..
Such male on male anal penetration of the anus , will, in time, cause damage to the anus, & leave a percentage of those who engage in that practice to be left,..' pooing,.. in a bag that is strapped to their leg
And, not to mention the negative health affects of poking a penis around into all of that ,..poo.
But, anyway, I fail to understand why grade schoolers need o be subjected to any description of any homosexual act, whether,..'extreme',.. or not. I mean..what's the point?
But anyway, lets get real here,..In that the ,.'REAL",.. purpose of introducing the subject of homosexuality, into grade schools. & depicting it in such a ,.'positive',.. light, is to,.'brainwash',... a portion of those grade schoolers into,..'becoming',.. homosexual themselves,..which is a part of the ,.'NEW WORLD ORDER',.. agenda which includes the destruction of the family, & population control,..
And,..
I will add to that, the fact that the Zionist owned, media, is pushing this homosexual agenda, to the limit, as a means of destroying the moral fiber of the Goyim, in order to destroy western civilization, & to, thereby, genocide the White race, & thereby leave ,..'World, Zionist Jewry',.. ruling over a world of ,..'brown,.. people, with average IQs of about 70.
I refer you to the,..'KALERGI PLAN',.. which lays out this demonic, Zionist, Rothschild, conspiracy, in detail.
I note, that, while, on one hand, the Zio media, & Zio controlled educational system is pushing this homosexual agenda, in the public schools, I doubt that it is being pushed in ,..'JEWISH',.. schools, & while it is also being pushed by Zionist interests in Europe & Canada, & Australia,. as far as I know, I don't think that it is being pushed on Jewish children in Israel,..
Just turnover any rock, & underneath,it, you will find there lurking a Zionist Jew,..
Google,..'KALERGY PLAN',..

Sally Edwards:
Here’s how we know your information is a crock.
Anal sex is very common between straight couples too. How many women do I see with a bag to crap in? Come to think of it, how many gay men do I ever see who have to “go” in a bag? Zero.

rueangel:
The fact of the matter is, that, the anus is designed for,..one way,..traffic & anal sex can lead to damage that can lead to the necessity of using a ,..bag, that is strapped to the leg, & also it can spread diseas,..Did you ever head of AIDS,.? & just because you never saw such a bag, doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.
But anyway, back to the issue at hand, which is, whether, of not homosexuality should be pushed onto grade schoolers, in such a way as to encourage it practice, by children that have not yet developed their own ,..'natural, inherent, hertero sexual nature,..
As in my comment above, I point out that there is an agenda afoot, to increase the incidence of homosexuality, as a means of cutting down the birthrates, this agenda, being pushed, largely by Zionist/Rothschild/Soros NWO type entities.

Sally Edwards:
Of course 6 year olds don't need to know the particulars of anal sex, but who's talking about teaching them that in the first place? Especially when you don't teach straight intercourse to 6 year olds, either.
It's like I said to Amos earlier, you teach children about homosexuals by simply saying sometimes a boy will fall in love with another boy or a girl will fall in love with another girl. That's all you need to say.
What you've been taught about people with damaged anuses is a lie. That doesn't happen. Or if it does, it's rare and would not be specific to homosexuals. Many homosexual men don't even engage in anal sex.

rueangel:
Back in the,..'olden days',.. when I wen to grade school,, back in the first half of the last century, we somehow managed to get through K to 12 without the subject of homosexuality ever being brought up in a classroom, but somehow we managed to grow up & get through life, without, such indoctrination,..having learned through the grapevine at about age 10, or so, that there were some guys, that liked to suck on each other's peepee weenies, & we learned that these guys were called queers,..& that was about all we needed to know. It was only , somewhat later that we heard bout anal sex, which we considered to be really,..real;y disgusting.
And, as to the idea that male on male sexual attraction has something to do with ,..'love',.. The fact of the matter is that gay males are notoriously promiscuous, often having hundreds, or even thousands of ,..'partners',.. in their lifetimes.
And male on male anal sex, often has an element of ,..'domination, and/or Sado -masochism involved, especially in rape situations, whether it is male on male, or male on female,..
And
Black males,, especially, , seem to enjoy inflicting pain, and or injury on their victims with their,.. tools.,..which they use as weapons/, of attacks on the anus of their victims..
So sure, I know that herteros also, indulge in anal sex, but that is largely because anal sex is being pushed by the Zio-Media as being, particularly, exciting & ,..'trendy'.
So, I still maintain that there is nothing healthy about anal sex, from either a physical,or a mental point of view,..
And,..
If it is going to be discussed in school, the discussion should consist of warnings against it,..For all of the reasons, mention above & previously,..

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Attack Against Children: School Survey Asks Sixth Graders About Visiting Gay Bars"

(Story cut-and-pasted from Todd Starnes, link here: https://www.toddstarnes.com/show/school-survey-asks-sixth-graders-visiting-gay-bars/)

Lady Checkmate:
Todd is correct, that survey had NOTHING to do with Black History Month, but was instead about pushing a wicked agenda in an attempt to normalize the abnormal with an end goal of legalizing child rape. It is offensive that anyone (the racist alt-left in this instance) would try to associate sexualizing children with Black History Month and as a Christian AA, I find it disgusting that anyone would attempt to use the AA experience to push an agenda that not ALL of us support. Whoever gave that survey to children should be immediately released from their contract and have their licenses, certifications, etc., revoked. To the racist alt-left lost who assume they can equate the color of our skin with their sin...STOP it. Do NOT equate sin with the color of our skin. Your racism and hate is worse than anything you accuse others of. Being AA is NOT a sin, but behavior that goes against God's word is sin. Seek Jesus Christ.

Mick Williams:
Horror of horrors. . . a Christian lab partner! The poor liberal would be traumatized for life.

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "PERSECUTION: “In God We Trust” Removed From Classroom After Atheist Parent Complains"

(Cut and pasted story from Todd Starnes follows)

A Wisconsin fourth grade school teacher removed “Christian symbolism” from her classroom after an atheist parent complained.

Among the items that were taken down at Roosevelt Elementary School – a cross, a poster listing “virtues and vices” and a poster that read, “In God We Trust” and a picture frame that included the American flag and the words “God Bless America.”

Yes, good readers – an atheist was apparently triggered by the words “God Bless America” and suffered a near-catastrophic microagression.

Television station WTMJ reports that parent Rob Moore was “infuriated” and “fuming” over the classroom decorations.

Moore is president of a Freedom From Religion Foundation chapter – a notorious group of atheists, agnostics and freethinkers that bully school districts. They are determined to eradicate Christianity from the public market place.

“There is an undeniable Christian theme in (the) classroom decorations and instruction,” Freedom From Religion Foundation attorney Ryan Jayne wrote in a letter to the school district.

Jayne said the religious-themed decorations violated the U.S. Constitution.

“Religious classroom decorations violate this basic constitutional prohibition by creating the appearance that the District prefers religion over non religion, and Christianity over all other faiths,” the attorney wrote.

The atheists also took issue because there was a “Child’s Christian Bible” in the school library – “but no other religious texts.”

Oh, the horror.

“Religion is a divisive force in public schools,” the attorney wrote.

The Kenosha Unified School District did not confirm whether the teacher removed the items that triggered the atheists. They issued a statement saying the matter was under investigation.

Lady Checkmate:
They NOT only hate Christians, they hate America, patriotic americans and EVERYONE who dares to disagree with them. Again:

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Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Trump Derangement Syndrome: An American Epidemic"

(Note: no actual story follows, despite this being called "News Network" - only a YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD0CYKK_mMo)

RADMIL:
I wasn't going to watch this but based on the comment below I glad I did. She's funny and cool

Lady Checkmate:
LOL...I LOVED this video :)!!

Conservatively Unambiguous:
I'm crying

Lady Checkmate:
Hilarious, isn't it??

Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D. #fundie disqus.com

Second Amendment--necessary and Godly!

My esteemed fellow Christians,

I trust it that you have all seen the news relative to the shooting that occurred at a secular public school in Florida earlier today. In Parkland, FL, a servant of satan named Nikolas Cruz shot 17 high school students to death in the name of satan. This is exactly why that as a real Christian I encourage everyone to vote for the Constitution Party in all elections. They are far from being model Christians, but it is the best we've got and the best chance that the Christian has to start TRULY taking our country back!

Relative to today's shooting attack, we can certainly expect the membership of the Demoncratic party and all manner of other satanists (Matthew 12:30) attacking our Second Amendment rights and therefore attacking Jesus Himself and His KJV! How so? Simple: because the Second Amendment is Biblical, duh! Our Bible says the following, to wit: "Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." Luke 22:36. Have these satanists forgotten that going against Jesus, they WILL get their just reward, and likely not just in the next life but also in this one (1 Samuel 5:12)?

As Christians it is our duty to come out in the defense of our Constitution and our Bible and against the heathens that want to undermine both. In fact, it is lack of proper Second Amendment protections that caused such fatalities during this shooting. Just imagine if the law was being applied properly, and all Christian students at that high school were allowed to carry firearms. That would've saved a lot of lives, including the pagan lives! If anything, the pagan/heathen/satanist element ought to be supportive of such glorious ideas, that would end up saving their lives, instead of opposing us!

I trust it that all real American Christians will contact their congressmen to express the need to strengthen our Second Amendment right, remove silly limits on Christian gun ownership, and start saving lives!

In the name of our Savior,
Brother T

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "'Big Bang Theory' star Mayim Bialik slams NRA, calls for 'civil disobedience' to change gun laws"

(cut-and-paste of Fox news story: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/02/18/big-bang-theory-star-mayim-bialik-slams-nra-calls-for-civil-disobedience-to-change-gun-laws.html)

hytre64:
I hate to tell it to you, Darlin'. You AREN'T the Brilliant Physicist you play on the small screen. You are an actor who speaks out the lines given to you (and woodenly at that).
Please let those who actually have a solution speak, rather than trying to draw attention to yourself without providing anything materially to solve the problem.

Jamest8585:
you are speaking out....why can't she?

Lady Checkmate:
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Mick Williams:
Another show I won't watch again.

Ted120:
Another leftist idiot.
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Kleo:
I have the PERFECT solution to the American problem of teens entering schools and shooting their fellow students.
Let's pass a NEW law that makes it illegal for ANY person to enter a school and shoot students.
Problem solved.
I'll be here all week.

Blanche Dubois:
This isn't a humorous matter. Do you have solutions to offer? Because no matter how you feel about gun control, this can't continue. We can't keep sending our kids to school to be shot. There are real, viable answers and folks need to stop being defensive and be willing to have productive conversations.

Lady Checkmate (to Blanche):
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Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "The desperate cry of America's boys"

(cut-and-paste of Fox News opinion piece by Suzanne Venker follows, link here: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/02/18/desperate-cry-americas-boys.html

Lady Checkmate:
The alt-left hates masculinity and straight Christian men. Man stream media attempts to over-feminize everything. Pray for the boys and men in your life, and don't be afraid to let them be boys and men.

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Speaker Ryan confronted by anti-gun protesters at Florida fundraiser"

(from Fox News) - Two protesters were removed from a Republican fundraising event in Key Biscayne, Fla., on Friday night after confronting House Speaker Paul Ryan about Wednesday’s mass shooting in Parkland, according to a report.
Maria Thorne, 49, a fifth-grade teacher in Key Biscayne, told the Miami Herald that she and a friend approached the Wisconsin Republican at a hotel after seeing his motorcade in the area while heading home from work.
Thorne said she confronted Ryan in the middle of the room and told him, “You’re here celebrating the death of 17 children.”
Ryan reportedly deflected from the conversation, but Thorne continued. She chanted, “No more guns!” as security officers escorted her away, tje newspaper reported.

Lady Checkmate:
SMH! The alt-left loves drama. They need to be treated like the peace-disturbing terrorists they are, handled harshly and shut down immediately!!

nakedfisher:
A gun is an inanimate object that only becomes deadly when the trigger is pulled releasing the hammer to a firing pin which strikes the cap on the bullet.That same gun can stay loaded and cocked from here to eternity,without trigger pull it won’t fire.Next we come to the FBI,they and local police had numerous opportunities to stop this coward and didn’t.
Gun’s fault?

US Showdown #fundie disqus.com

(Commenting on Lady Checkmate's story "Chelsea Handler blasts Republicans for Florida high school shooting, says they 'have blood on their hands'")

USS Showdown:
"Handler, a self-proclaimed political activist, posted a tweet about midterm elections, urging voters “to elect candidates that are not funded by the NRA” and “who won’t allow kids to go to school and get shot.”
Chelsea Handler whose minor comic career is waned, is an aging, bitter, whoreish woman. She is unmarried, childless (via abortions) and is trying to stay in the public by becoming a political activist. She has no investment in future of this nation.
It's time to out and denounce these Hollywood liberal opportunist trolls for what they are.
Chelsea Handler know a thing or two about killing kids; she had at least two abortions.

Lady Checkmate:
She should be ashamed of herself.

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

User Eric Brock posted the following, post entitled "Faith is Universal: We all believe in something"

Examining the need to confirm our doubts/faiths/beliefs based on the acceptance of others. Does the conversion and adherence of others necessarily validate or invalidate any particular position and, if so then, why? We all will have our own personal faiths and beliefs and within those, we will all have elements of doubt. What percentage of our efforts to convince others is motivated by our need to overcome our own disbelief?
This question is posed to the adherents of so called "organized religions" as well as those who claim to be "atheist". Agnostics are equally welcomed.

Lady Checkmate:
Respectfully, EricBrock, you're confused and your OP doesn't make sense (and I must share truth with you because Truth is the only thing that will set you free from satan's lies and deception). JustMat explained it for you in his comment. Please seek Jesus Christ. He is the ONLY way, the truth and the life. You're in our prayers.

1 Timothy 2:5 (KJV)
5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

John 14:6 (KJV)
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

1 Corinthians 14:33 (KJV)
33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.


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Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D. #fundie disqus.com

A Godly preacher boy!

My utmost esteemed, glorious, and illustrious fellow Christians:

Most of us engage in open air preaching in the same vein as our Jesus had done in His utmost glorious ministry. But how many are able to get their preaching right like this young preacher boys on the streets of Philadelphia?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PQKettVxvY

[Youtube video of a child, around 10 y.o., "street preaching" and cursing at people at a Harry Potter festival.]

Now here's a question for the true Christians here: what is wrong with this picture? I'll give you just a hint: 1 Timothy 2:12! Makes you wonder what the heck happened to the elder as to not instruct the woman relative to her place in the Godly scheme of things. Nevertheless, I trust that any real Christian will take to heart the modus operandi employed by these most distinguished preachers from Philadelphia, and especially that of the preacher boy rebuking the satanists (Matthew 12:30) as any true Christian should!

The Bible commands us to minister to the heathens, so do not forget to not only support some of the mostest street preachers out there, like the acclaimed Brother Wally Langford or the most eminent Brother Ruben Israel, but also go out there and do your part! And do not skip bringing the young preachers with you when you go to various heathen locales, like the comic book festivals, Papist churches, sodomite parades, Mooslim events, and other satanic gatherings. It is our absolute duty to Jesus to train our children to be young warriors for Christ, to spread His Gospel, in His Name, just as so many others done before us. Acts 17:17.

In the name of our Savior,
Brother T

Addendum:
Relative to those that say he's too harsh on the satanist, let's not forget the manner in which our beloved Jesus conversed with the reprobate. John 8:44

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Christophobia: Mike Pence, Tim Tebow, Tony Dungy have all been 'Christian Shamed.' This ugly form of bigotry must stop"

(Fox News cut-and-paste, link here: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/02/16/mike-pence-tim-tebow-tony-dungy-have-all-been-christian-shamed-this-ugly-form-bigotry-must-stop.html

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Robin Egg:
Don't forget to RECOMMEND. Lets get the Truth out so that Light may shine bright in this dark place and Jesus Christ may be glorified. Even if the discussion is closed, please still RECOMMEND.

Lady Checkmate:
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WorldGoneCrazy-NotMurderedYet #fundie disqus.com

"PP´s shuttin´down this day"

The deathscorts served Planned Parenthood
And in their name did little good
But lots and lots of evil
Made money killing babies
Made money killing babies
Treated pro-lifers like dogs with rabies
But not anymore

The deathscorts are long-faced today
´Cause PP´s shuttin down this day
And they will have to travel far away
Or make their money in some other way
Than off of unborn blood

Their company helped racists
Made money protecting rapists
Traded in human flesh
Denied the humanity of the unborn
And their bodies into pieces torn
But not anymore

The deathscorts are long-faced today
´Cause PP´s shuttin´down this day
And they will have to travel far away
Or make their money in some other way
Than off of unborn blood

Babies ripped apart at the abortion mill
Or poisoned by the abortion pill
Killed with syringes and suction machines
PP got rich on blood and taxpayer money
Flocked for the killings like flies around honey
But not anymore

The deathscorts are long-faced today
´Cause PP´s shuttin´ down this day
And they will have to travel far away
Or make their money in some other way
Than off of unborn blood

Planned Parenthood claimed to be good
That abortion on demand was as it should
That serial killers in white coats were heroes
And many were fooled by their vicious lies
When baby-killing came as healthcare disguised
But not anymore

The deathscorts are long-faced today
´Cause PP´s shuttin´ down this day'
And they will have to travel far away'
Or make their money in some other way
Than off of unborn blood

The US pro-lifers their message spread
And by the time people saw what dread
Planned Parenthood really stood for
Together the people fought for the right to live
So that no-one to PP their baby would give
PP had been popular, but not anymore

The deathscorts are long-faced today
´Cause PP´s shuttin´ down this day
And they will have to travel far away
Or make their money in some other way
Than off of unborn blood

Planned Parenthood finally got defunded
And the sceptical ones were astounded
That it had been finally done
Roe v Wade was thrown overboard
Abortion on demand was outlawed
It had been going on for so long, but not anymore

The deathscorts are long-faced today
´Cause PP´s shuttin down this day
And they will have to travel far away
Or make their money in some other way
Than off of unborn blood."

WorldGoneCrazy-NotMurderedYet #fundie disqus.com

Hahaha - I'm laughing because a former pro-abort on here, Ronald Carter, used to say that "deathscort" was not a word, nor "abortuary."

One time RC was having such a colossal meltdown over both words that the Great and Powerful Trixie chimed in with:

“...and that's why you're here having a hissy (made up) fit. You should probably abort this conversation. Do you need a deathscort?” – trixiewoobeans

Also, Pere has written a song called "Long-Faced Deathscorts" - quite brilliant really!

A deathscort is the person who escorts the innocent preborn babies to their place of execution. They are the closest thing we have in this day and age to a concentration camp guard.

Ken Faivor #fundie disqus.com

Who should get the flu shot?......Nobody!

Do you get it? If you do your very trusting of the world. Didn't Jesus say they would hate you?

Joh 15:18 If the world hateth you, ye know that it hath hated me before it hated you.

Repent of your pharmakeia.........or not, and pay the piper, Jubal, that leads you to destruction.

Rev 9:21 and they repented not of their murders, nor of their sorceries (G5331), nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

G5331
fa?µa?e?´a
pharmakeia
far-mak-i'-ah
From G5332; medication (“pharmacy”), that is, (by extension) magic (literal or figurative): - sorcery, witchcraft.

Gen 4:21 And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and pipe.

https://www.naturalnews.com...

http://www.greenmedinfo.com...

Nidalap, Amos Moses #fundie disqus.com

Nidalap: Saying "gay marriage" is like saying tofu turkey. Just a pale fake simulacrum of the real thing...

TheKingOfRhye: In what way other than the gender of the people involved is it different?

Amos Moses: in what way is this grape Popsicle different from that grape Popsicle .... FYI .... there is no need for a grape Popsicle to need another grape Popsicle .... it is a null set ..... 0+0=0 ............. "In what way other than the gender" ...... two of the same does not make a marriage ....

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Praise God!!! Bermuda becomes world's first country to repeal same-sex marriage legislation"

Bermuda is the first country in the world to repeal a law allowing same-sex couples to marry.

Bermuda Governor, John Rankin, approved a bill on Wednesday that reverses a Supreme Court ruling last year that allowed gay marriage.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/08/bermuda-reversessame-sex-marriage-legislation-world-first/

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Lady Checkmate:
I pray America is second, in Jesus name.

Acyutananda #fundie disqus.com

Acyutananda:
I'll reproduce here a comment I made under the recent "Science/Philosophy Distinction" post:
The funny thing is that the scientists who say life doesn't begin at conception don't disagree about science with those who say it does. If they were all to sit around a table and discuss one point in time of human development after another, they would closely agree about the processes going on at each point.
They are disagreeing about nomenclature, about words. It's a semantic debate. If they were to agree to freshly coin all the words they will need for the embryology field, they could probably easily coin some words and assign them the definitions that will be most useful for their scientific purposes, and come to an agreement. But since they persist in using existing words, and existing words, such as "life" and "human," have associations with implications (implications which those scientists understand) for perception and private behavior and public policy, the scientists' nomenclature preferences will be underlain by their different philosophies, and a faction of scientists with one philosophy will want to use different words than a faction of scientists with a different philosophy. The pro-choice side will want us to view the scientific reality (upon which there is no disagreement) through a word filter that will make the pro-choice side look good and feel good, rather than a filter that will make the pro-life side look good and feel good.
Moreover, many existing words, including "life," have multiple meanings that simply invite the unscrupulous to obfuscate. For example:
"The final quote from Robert Wyman (a neurobiologist) makes the most bizarre claim I've ever seen a pro-choice person make. Life doesn't begin at fertilization, they claim, it began billions of years ago. And that is somehow supposed to show that we can't know when an individual human life begins."
I agree that that is what Wyman was trying to show. But to some extent he evades being caught and pinned to the wall, by applying what seems to be intentional obtuseness.
It would matter not at all whether viruses were alive if we didn't reify and virtually fetishize our own categories. A failure to answer that question (are viruses alive?) wouldn't prevent us from acquiring a finely-detailed, even god-like scientific understanding of viruses, if we're otherwise capable of acquiring it.
Just as knowing whether or not an embryo is a person, or a human being, matters not at all, as long as we understand what kind of life it would have if it lives, and understand that if we kill it, we deprive it of that life. Science.

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Acyutananda:
Bessie, I don't mind your lack of interest in the issue I raised. Thanks for at least not exhibiting misunderstanding of the issue.

WorldGoneCrazy-NotMurderedYet #fundie disqus.com

Great post, Acyutananda!

And it seems to me that those pro-aborts who respond to you actually AGREE that we cannot define "life" for the woman seeking an abortion, because her cells change - nor is the "life" of her preborn child of any value because it will entail future "pain and suffering," according to one! Talk about using a clearly understood meaning of "life" to obscure the meaning of "life!"

In so doing, pro-aborts have actually denied the "human rights" of all born persons (and they cannot even justify calling born humans "persons," you know, philosophy and all being what it is. :-)), including those of the woman seeking an abortion.

In biting the whole bullet, such pro-aborts have proven beyond any doubt that they would indeed have supported slavery and the Holocaust - on the purely "rational" grounds that the "lives" of blacks and Jews were fuzzy, and that personhood, and even "life" is a philosophical, and thus slippery, area.

Amos Moses #fundie disqus.com

Amos Moses:
The philosophical contradictions of the trans worldview - Lifesite
An argument about transgender identities will be much more persuasive if it concerns who someone is, not merely how someone identifies. And so the rhetoric of the transgender moment drips with ontological assertions: people are the gender they prefer to be. That’s the claim.
Transgender activists don’t admit that this is a metaphysical claim. They don’t want to have the debate on the level of philosophy, so they dress it up as a scientific and medical claim. And they’ve co-opted many professional associations for their cause. Thus the American Psychological Association, in a pamphlet titled “Answers to Your Questions about Transgender People, Gender Identity, and Gender Expression,” tells us, “Transgender is an umbrella term for persons whose gender identity, gender expression, or behavior does not conform to that typically associated with the sex to which they were assigned at birth.” Notice the politicized language: a person’s sex is “assigned at birth.” Back in 2005, even the Human Rights Campaign referred instead to “birth sex” and “physical sex.”
The phrase “sex assigned at birth” is now favored because it makes room for “gender identity” as the real basis of a person’s sex. In an expert declaration to a federal district court in North Carolina concerning H.B. 2, Dr. Deanna Adkins stated, “From a medical perspective, the appropriate determinant of sex is gender identity.” Dr. Adkins is a professor at Duke University School of Medicine and the director of the Duke Center for Child and Adolescent Gender Care (which opened in 2015). Adkins argues that gender identity is not only the preferred basis for determining sex, but “the only medically supported determinant of sex.” Every other method is bad science, she claims: “It is counter to medical science to use chromosomes, hormones, internal reproductive organs, external genitalia, or secondary sex characteristics to override gender identity for purposes of classifying someone as male or female.”
This is a remarkable claim, not least because the argument recently was that gender is only a social construct, while sex is a biological reality. Now, activists claim that gender identity is destiny, while biological sex is the social construct.

Enniscorthy:
From the "Media Bias/Fact Check" website: "Life Site News"
EXTREME RIGHT BIAS
These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy.
Factual Reporting: MIXED
Notes: LifeSiteNews “is a non-profit Internet service dedicated to issues of culture, life, and family.” The website was founded by the Campaign Life Coalition which has a far right bias. Both sources are anti-abortion and opposed to gay marriage. (11/25/2016)

Amos Moses:
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ............ oh .... i am sorry ... did you have something to say of any interest ..... FYI ...... unbiased ...... IS A MYTH ....... a .... oh how did you put it ..... a ...... CONSPIRACY THEORY ................. and you are still a liar and a JOKE .......... and an ACCIDENTAL THEORIST ............oh ... i forgot ..... SO WHAT ..............
Southern Poverty Law Center Adds Itself To List Of Hate Groups
February 7, 2018

Enniscorthy:
All your name calling aside, it's prudent to check your sources before posting to make sure they're reputable and not far-right jokes.

Amos Moses:
all of your opinions are dubious .............. and repeated lies ........ so dubious coming from you is ..... well ...... ahhhhh ..... DUBIOUS .........

Enniscorthy:
No, I cite reputable sources. You just happen to oppose those sources.

Amos Moses:
nope .... you cited a source that endorsed PEDOPHILIA [edit: The American Psychological Association] ........... and then took it back ..... and that is NOT REPUTABLE ....... "You just happen to oppose those sources." .... as you do SCRIPTURE ..... again ...... SO WHAT ................

Enniscorthy:
It didn't endorse pedophilia. It said that pedophilia might be an orientation. Once again, you fail to understand.

Amos Moses:
YUP ... it surely did ............ and you fail to acknowledge the truth ...........

Enniscorthy:
No, it didn't, but you're welcome to find the text that gave them free license to abuse children, either before or AFTER their retraction. I'll wait. Let's see how honest you really are.

Amos Moses:
yeah .... that is why we have homo-marriage .... because they said it was okey-dokey to play pokey wherever you want to ...... and they were about to do the same thing ........... and you are wrong .... and you are hurting people ............. and what you are saying is a lie ..... and so you are still a liar ..............

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