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WorldGoneCrazy-NotMurderedYet #fundie disqus.com

One of our deathscorts recently told us that they were "saving those babies from a life of sin."

An abortuary worker told us that "everyone has to die sometime."

Notice that they both affirm the personhood - and humanity - of the child in the womb.

I'm sure that NAMBLA supporters can find "benefits" for the child being preyed upon too.

edwitness #fundie disqus.com

"But you actually imagine that merely spouting words with no evidence whatsoever that they are remotely true means ANYTHING?"

Oh, but there is lots of evidence. Creation itself screams that there is a Creator. And the Bible itself proves who God is by it's ever constant prophetic fulfillments.
Did you know that the Bible says there would come a time when all buying and selling would be done with a mark that would include the numbers 666? And that these numbers are the main part in the barcode system we use for.... wait for it..... buying and selling?
And Jesus fulfilled hundreds of specific prophecies when He came. Born in Bethlehem. Born of a virgin. Would be a Nazareth. Etc etc etc... A statistical impossibility that happened in just His life. Let alone all of the other prophecies that show God is who He says He is. No other book like it in the world.
Because you are ignorant of these and so much more does not make them "no evidence whatsoever".

Off Shore #fundie disqus.com

(commenting on story “Supreme Court Rules ‘Transgenders,’ Such as Men Who Want to Wear Skirts, Cannot Be Fired in 6-3 Decision”):

So the GI should be able to wear blaze orange on the battle field? The service repair person wears what they want, so our ladies can't tell if they work for the company they are expecting? The cop should be able to wear a pink tutu, so we can't tell who the good guy is? Hey the fireman can wear plastic nylons so when they enter the heat it melts to their bodies. You are thinking is emotional not based on reason nor plain common sense. My company picks our uniforms to display our message not your personal desires. Put your hard earned money on the line and your ignorant ideas would fade quickly or you would be bankrupt either way reality would be served. The world is going to be judged repent and accept the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal Savior, Romans 10:9-11.

Bible Apologetics #fundie disqus.com

My last topic was about the big bang, but evolution always comes up in the conversation. They go hand in hand.
Many Christians buy into this lie. It gives the atheist and Christian common ground. But I feel that this border line heresy.
In the first book of the bible , Genesis, we are told God created man from the dust of the earth, then the birds, land animals, and all water animals and fish. I am paraphrasing of course. But the point is the bible is quiet clear on the order of events and the circumstances covering their and our creation.
I see no proof of macro evolution, one kind changing into another kind. And to say that micro leads to macro is completely unsupported in the fossil records.
It is not science, science is where we show something to be true by observing and testing then reproducing the results in a controlled environment. Bacteria is always thrown out there as proof, but bacteria stays bacteria, virus's stay virus's, dogs stay dogs, etc. etc.
There are different types in the kinds , but there kinds never completely change to a different kind.
The evidence is no where to be seen.
The bible doesn't teach this.
And this in itself is a belief system requiring faith.
So if you have proof, solid proof, then please present it here.

Honey Crisis #fundie disqus.com

i'm in league with the queer folk like me.
the world's beautiful monsters, like the author of Sea-Witch, the fairies and freaks and all our glory.
but not just the other monsters like me. but like Jesus Christ, perfect monster. Or monsters like Marie Curie, or monsters touched by madness, like me or Hitchcock. I'm in league with the poor. With the convict. With the tortured geniuses and the other prophets. I'm in it with the redeemers we destroy like MLK Jr. I'm in league everyone you hate. And everyone I hate. And everyone we love to hate when you or I should remember to love. And I'm in league with you even if we sometimes forget that. But also I'm in league with the w h o r e s and and the wretched. The suffering. The ill. And yes, the weird and the queer.
I'm in league with the messy underbelly of humanity we as a society love to devalue or even despise.
As Eugene Debs said so beautifully addressing a court so long ago:
"Your Honor, years ago I recognized my kinship with all living beings, and I made up my mind that I was not one bit better than the meanest on earth. I said then, and I say now, that while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free."

Crossforce #fundie disqus.com

everyone believes.
even if they tell themselves that they dont.all they can do is refuse to acknowledge Him

if they refuse to acknowledge in our Lord that leaves a G_d shaped hole in their heart that they will fill with anything.and i do mean anything
in adition progressives have turned off the functioning portion of their brains meaning that they will believe anything literally.
combine this with that hole in their heart and they will fall for anyone or anything in a second flat. look for how many libs believe in global warming. look at how many libs worship carl marx or dead rocks or dinosaur bones or monkeys or the fool occupying the white hut. there are some of them have said that they keep a shrine in their house now to obama. i believe them.

ONLY a belief in Christ Our Lord will shield you from this. ONLY a comitted Christian has the strenght and wisdom to resist following the demons of this world.
they picked their fate.the FACTS are out there if they want to see them. most wont. a few will turn. most wont. they blinded themselves.all the Lord will do is see to it that they follow their delusion off the cliff when the time comes.
i have lib family. my brother and his wife are cardcarrying communists. i cut them off long ago.most of you will have to do the same now or later. it will hurt but it will hurt less than watching them marched to their fate in the Lake when the time comes.cut them off and harden your hearts to them or risk joining them.

Grace Kim Kwon #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

Europe has very few fundamentalist Christians and the LGBT population does just fine out there and most people let them live their lives in peace. In Canada, the same thing is happening. I think what's happening here is that you want to control others with your rather rigid morality, and people are standing up to you. This utterly stupid idea that homosexuals are afflicted by "sick sins" is the reason your fundamentalists are NOT more popular, because that idea is completely contrary to what we learn from scientific EVIDENCE to the contrary. And as long as you remain science-phobic and proud of it, your ideas will remain unpopular.

The Western licentiousness hurts global children; it's nothing of private matter since the Western Sodomites have started demanding the unconditional submission. Read Leviticus ch.18-20. God destroyed the civilizations like the secular USA. They just had no Christian population. (Genesis ch.19) You are wrong about the Western Europe and Canada and Australia. The people were simply bribed and threatened and silenced and tamed by the government's free stuff. Freedom fighters were always minorities.

American Psychological Association is the crazy entity. USA is one of the most immoral nation on earth because of them; no one should listen to them. Read the Holy Bible for morality and sanity. Telling homosexuality is sin is what the LGBT people need to hear. Ronald, you are wrong. The West fell into the deadly error by applying racial equality upon the sexual depravity. Today's Americans would be labeled as the sickest sexual addicts the entire history has to testify. People dislike Christian theocracy because they are sinful sinners, but the child-abusing culture must be fixed by the Christian Church whether perv population likes it or not. At least in the West, Christians must not get bullied for speaking out God's truth. Liberty is for God's Word.

pastoredsmith #fundie disqus.com

Darwin's sister gave that account as factual. I did my homework. Whether he did or not, I agree that it is not an argument against evolution; however, it does show that a once disgruntled preacher was afraid to face the God he had tried to demonstrate didn't exist. He knew down deep inside that God does exist. That is what this proves. As to proving evolution, all one needs to do is to realize that the basic hypothesis of the man made theory is based on imagination; not fact. The way to form a genuine theory is NOT to start with fiction and try to prove it; rather, it is to start with fact and figure out the best explanation one can. Evolution at its very heart is fiction that scientists struggle and cheat in order to "prove" it is real. But, there is no "monkey / man" or "dog / cat" because evolution simply did not happen. God created it, just as the Biblical account declares.

2marktime2 #homophobia disqus.com

The fact is the people with loveless live are the sexually active homosexuals.
Research was done with 200 homosexuals over a period of 2 years and the first and foremost finding was that the one thing they were not and that is gay.
He said that they were the unhappiest people that he had ever met.

crossforce #fundie disqus.com

we wate hundreds of billions of dollars every year trying to
prove that evolutionism is true.that man came from a
monkey
i could save them all that money.ten bucks for a bible and
heck ill volunteer to read it to to them and show them
everything they need to know about how the world was
made for FREE
our Lord made our world in 7 days.
He divided the light from the dark.
He made man from the dust on the ground and the first
woman from a rib from the first man.
man and woman lived a perfect life of ease and plenty until
they disobeyed God and were cast out into this cold
world.things have been falling apart ever since
and when the world was finally totally over come by sin and
evil He took the last eight people on earth who were good
and kind and decent and spared them and the animals while
He cleaned.
and another Cleaning is coming again and soon
whats so hard to understand????i can get it, why cant
THEY??????
EVOLUTIONISM HAS HELD SCIENCE BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!imagine the
billions and billions wed have saved.can you even imagine
the strides science would have made if only we just
aCCEPTED THE TRUTH?we could have cured all disease
now.made all social ill go away.

Mark Bradshaw #fundie #homophobia #pratt disqus.com

(Excerpts of a conversation in progress - some content removed because context can’t be provided)

“No, because rapists and murderers are not consenting, they're abusing others. Once again, you do not understand informed consent.” ----- I do understand what informed consent it. But you still haven’t cited why informed consent makes behavior moral or not.

“No, because you do not understand the concept of consent.” ---- I do. And a child can provide consent. Your hang-up is “legal” consent. If the legal system has no definition of age required for consent, is having relations with an 8 year old moral or immoral? And why?

“You fail to understand the difference between consent and abuse.” ----- You’ve shown NO connection between the two. You’ve FAILED to show why a child cannot give consent – other than “It’s the law”. So, I ask again, since slavery was legal, is slavery moral?

“If they find nothing wrong with rape or murder, yes their morals are wrong.” ----- HOW can you make this claim that their morals are wrong?

“All right, go ahead and abuse a child.” ----- Again, HOW is it abuse if (the child) consents?

“Says the law. Age of consent laws exist for a reason.” ----- So, the law is the arbiter of what is/isn’t moral? I guess slavery was moral, right? What about countries/societies that don’t have laws regarding age of consent – are relations with children moral in those instances?

“And you have elected to believe your denomination is right and the rest are wrong.” ----- Not “the rest” – just those who reject God and His word. But the same could be said of YOU, right? You reject anyone that doesn’t believe the same way you do. How is that any different than what you accuse me of doing?

“- No, I'm asserting that you have what everyone else has - an interpretation, which means you're just as wrong as everyone else and no one can agree about things because you're all so sure you've chosen the 100% correct understanding.” ----- Upon WHAT AUTHORITY can you claim that I am wrong? How can YOU be sure that YOU’VE CHOSEN the “correct” morals? You cannot even cite an authoritative source for those morals.

“You're trying to give it the answer you want, but you can't do that.” ---- I am using how words are defined.

“People don't commit murder because they believe it's acceptable...come on. They do it out of desperation in their situation and because they no longer care and have lost the ability to reason.” ----- So, now you are a psychologist and can claim to know the motivations of every murderer?

“I love the way you think any two people on earth can just make the decision to copulate and it's going to work out peachy.” ----- When did I ever assert that any behavior will “work out peachy”? Why do you insist on asserting that I’ve said things I haven’t actually said?

“Desires you feel you have the right to tell people to squash because of your religion.” ----- FALSE. All that I’ve simply stated is that homosexual behavior is immoral. People “squash” emotions and desires all of the time.

“Not confused at all. I never said our parents got everything right.” ----- Yet you DID say that you learn your morals from your parents – that your parents are your moral authority.

“We get older and our brains develop and we learn for ourselves what good morals are.” ----- “Good” based upon WHAT? You are essentially saying that YOU are your own moral authority. If someone’s morals allow for murder or rape, is that acceptable? If not, then upon WHAT AUTHORITY can one assert something is good/bad, moral/immoral?

“that as we learn to think for ourselves that we don't need a holy book to tell us what's right and wrong.” ---- Upon WHAT BASIS can you determine something to be right or wrong, moral or immoral? You haven’t answered that simple question. You keep going on and on about “learning what is right and wrong”, yet have NEVER cited a source for what is right and wrong. If someone grows up learning that murder and rape are moral, how can you say that murder and rape aren’t moral?

“This is the last time I'm going to humor you on this subject since you don't know and have no desire to know the difference between consent and abuse.” ----- Again, you continue to FAIL to cite an authoritative source for why abuse is wrong, or where not providing legal consent is a qualifier of abuse. You have FAILED to show why, in a society where there is no law regarding age of consent, it is immoral to have relations with a child who has consented.

“We take rapists and murderers out of circulation when they engage in this behavior because it's abuse and it's illegal.” ----- But WHY are those acts immoral? Why are “abuse” and “illegal behavior” immoral? WHAT AUTHORITY asserts that these acts are immoral?

“We don't do the same with homosexuals because they decide to engage in a sexual act because it's not abuse. No one gets hurt.” ----- Whether one gets hurt or not doesn’t determine morality.

“Yes. Age of consent laws aren't absolutely perfect and no two countries draw the lines in the same places, but they do the best they can.” ----- So, if a country/society define no legal age limits on consent, having relations with a 6 year old is acceptable/moral?

“The 20 year old man goes to jail. Quite rightly.” ---- What about in countries that don’t have any limits on age of consent? Is that 20 year old man having relations with a 6 year old girl moral or immoral?

Lady Checkmate #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

Commenting on story "Mother Of 11-Year-Old 'Drag Kid' Who Performed At Gay Bar Says Child Protective Services Showed Up At Her Home" (story here: https://www.dailywire.com/news/44631/mother-11-year-old-drag-kid-who-performed-gay-bar-amanda-prestigiacomo)

Lady Checkmate:
Fyi - Desmond is autistic, his parents are unemployed and his stripping (and possible prostitution) pays his family's/parent's bills. God help us. http://thejewishlady.com/desmond-is-amazing-debacle-child-abuse-exploitation/

Robin Egg:
They determined there were no laws broken. Can you believe that? Of course, it is New York and well........

Lady Checkmate:
It's definitely hard to believe. It kind of reminds me of Justin Berry, but Justin's parents weren't aware of him creating child pornography and prostituting himself to homosexual men. Pedophiles are determined to legalize child-rape. They are grooming that boy to be raped by the same homosexual men that are throwing money at him while he dances and strips for them and the boy's parents are onboard (smh). That child is being constantly exposed to sexually charged men, obscene behavior, and more than likely propositioned regularly by those same men. It's wrong! Shame on them!!! They will all answer to God. A child should not have been dancing and stripping for grown men (NAMBLA members?), grown men who tipped the child money the more risqué his performance.

Lady Checkmate #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

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Image says: “Yes, I am a Christian. I believe in the Bible. I do not support homosexuality or “homosexual marriage”. Yes, I still love you. Yes, we are still friends. No, I am not judging you. No, I am not condemning you to hell. No, I will not let anyone bully you. But realize that name-calling and stereotyping those of us who stand for what we believe is exactly what you don’t want done to you. We have a right to speak what we believe, same as you have a right to speak what you believe.”

Oboehner #fundie disqus.com

Gravity is observable, testable, repeatable, why don't you show me the "common ancestor" evolving into something?
Atheism is a belief system like any other religion, one cannot prove there is no God, one has faith there isn't.
It is funny how you try to apply the title of 'science' to attack things, though, or how you attempt to lump your religion with real science.

We see the hawthorne fruit fly evolving today. Observed evolution. Where's the evidence for creation?

"200 years ago, the ancestors of apple maggot flies laid their eggs only on hawthorns — but today, these flies lay eggs on hawthorns (which are native to America) and domestic apples (which were introduced to America by immigrants and bred)." Wow, quite the example of evolution - I can barely type I'm laughing so hard!!

Another xtian who doesnt understand evolution. There are MANY types of speciation. But there are 0 forms of creation. The joke's on you, Christian.

A cow never evolved to anything other than a cow, bacteria is always bacteria, jokes on you.

Prove it.

A total lack of proof is all I need to know evolutionism is nothing more than a blind faith religion.

Lady Checkmate #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "The Truth About Sodom & Gomorrah"

God warns Abraham that He will destroy Sodom because of it's sin: Abraham pleads for Sodom(because Lot lived there)
Genesis 18:16-33 (KJV) (scriptural text omitted)

God destroys Sodom & Gomorrah (like He promised Abraham He would do, because of Sodom's sin)
Genesis 19 (KJV) (scriptural text omitted)

God Remembers Abraham
Genesis 19:27-29 (KJV) (scriptural text omitted)

Robin Egg:
Excellent article. Yet, the homosexual crowd insists that the Bible does not deal with homosexuality.

Just Mat:
What's equally bad to those who try to deny God or try to believe they won't have to pay any consequence are those who try to convince themselves and other they were born that way or that God is OK with their abomination.

Lady Checkmate:
Amen!
There are those who have come out of that lifestyle choice and admitted that they were lying when they made those statements. Those who make those statements are intentionally deceptive, manipulative, flat out liars and show signs of a reprobate mind. We're all tempted with sin. They feed their temptation and want to pretend it's just how they are...no, they fed their temptation and allowed their flesh to lead them versus allowing God to lead them. For example, I'm attracted to men; however, since my divorce I've been celibate. It's NOT that I haven't been tempted, just like any other human being, BUT instead of following my flesh, I follow God (which I will admit is CONSTANT. I'll also admit it was VERY hard when I tried dating this one guy, BUT God is faithful and kept me in that dating situation. I hope that helps and edifies someone because it was NOT shared for any other reason.
God bless you, JustMat!

Walter Crowder #fundie disqus.com

(In response to the statement "It's pathetic watching people think their religion trumps the law.")

It does trump the law of this stupid country, I think it's pathetic when people talk about tolerance? and then the LGBT community threaten to kill her? Christians don't condone homosexual lifestyle, but muslims kill them. the media hides this I'm glad I'm hated for being a Christian!

afchief #fundie disqus.com

This is how deaf, dumb and blind liberals are. Since the god of this world has blinded your eyes to see, you cannot see what is happening around you. Look back over the last 50 years and try and see the evil that has crept into our country. Over 50 years ago we had Christian prayer in schools for close to 200 years. Since then we have taken Christian prayer out of schools. We have passed laws to kill the unborn. Homosexuals have come out of the closet, can marry is some states, and have weakened the military and have gained inroads into every organization within our country. We elected a lawless, lying, anti-American, anti-Christian Muslim to be president who is destroying our country. Who has left our borders wide open and he is allowing terrorists into our country.
I could list dozens of other things that show our moral decay over the last 50 years but they all have one thing in common...........godlessness!!! This is what liberalism/progressiveism/socialism is.......godlessness. It is a cancer that is slowly killing out country and it is only a matter of time before it does.
And you think homos coming after pastors to marry them will not happen? Yes, you cannot see what is happening without the Spirit of Christ!!!!

Oboehner #fundie disqus.com

They had the equal right to go elsewhere and not trample on the equal rights of the bakery. I can tell by your whiney comment you are one of those who believe they are born that way, they are not, it is a result of a mental defect. Why else does one almost always take the male role and the other the female.

TheThirdHelix #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

TSawesome: That’s the kind of “gay stuff” that I usually do... Do I really need to “spell it out for you”?

Heteros are all about sex. You know, that’s how we define people -- by what we imagine they *might* so in the privacy of their own homes.

TheThirdHelix: I don’t know about the people you talk to, but I’ve never met any Christians who are particularly eager to discuss homosexuality, homosexual sex acts or anything related. The only reason any of us talk about this at all is because we’re constantly bombarded with it and demanded to explain ourselves for our refusal to change our religion to be more accommodating of it.

Most of us would rather talk about almost anything else, but when we’re met with lies and propaganda about what the Bible supposedly does or does not condone, we’re forced to clarify, which entails explaining precisely what the Bible condemns, which entails naming the specific sin.

Then, when we do, people like you have the audacity to accuse us of being “obsessed” or “preoccupied” with the subject, when no -- it’s not us. It’s you.

TSawesome: Not from our perspective -- the ones “bombarding” and obsessing over our lives are the fear-mongering Fundamentalists. Tell *them* to knock it off.

TheThirdHelix: How are fundamentalists interfering with you at all, much less “obsessing” over your life?

TSawesome: Let’s see... Passing legislation against LGBT in states such as NC, MS and TX, wanting to overturn marriage equality and obsessing by spending their energy arguing about bathrooms for my transgender friends.

All this things are obsessions generated by a fearful group of politicians and pastors afraid of losing power and influence to “others”.

It’s sad, really, that those people confuse holiness with persecution of some of the smallest and most vulnerable minorities in society.

TheThirdHelix: First of all, it’s everybody’s business if we’re talking about giving grown men legally-mandated access to little girls’ restrooms. I really couldn’t give two craps about any of your sanctimonious indignation over our refusal to expose little girls to predators in order to enable people with a delusion. So get over it. Nobody’s buying it. That you’re attributing it to “fearful politicians” and “pastors afraid of losing power” without any regard for the other side of the argument tells me you are totally oblivious to any reality outside of your own precious echo chamber of identity politics and victimhood mongering.

Second, the government historically recognizes marriage because there is a specific public benefit to doing so. It is not because it’s the proper role of government to endorse our romantic choices or to validate our sexual preferences. The government is in the marriage game because they know men and women are likely to have sex, sex makes babies, babies thrive with two parents who can divide up and cooperate in nurturing and material support duties, and when they don’t have that, they’re at a disadvantage later in life -- people who come into the world as bastards in the literal sense tend to grow up into bastards in the pejorative sense. High out-of-wedlock birthrates always lead to increased poverty and crime, which strains social services and public school systems, leading to societal economic hardship, so it’s in the public interest for the government to incentivize marriage with tax benefits.

But gay “sex” doesn’t make babies. There is no public benefit whatsoever to incentivizing gay “marriage.”

And, if it were really about “equality,” rather than gay supremacy, the LGBT lobby would have jumped at the compromise offered years ago in the form of civil unions, which would have bestowed all of the same legal benefits and protections as marriage, without calling it “marriage.” But, the LGBT lobby, being typical Leftists, thinks the federal government can bestow moral and spiritual legitimacy, and it wanted to use the government as a cudgel against anyone who dares oppose their dogma. And, it’s succeeding.

So stop with the persecution complex. You got your way.

I realize victimhood has been a staggeringly effective political weapon for the past 30 years and you don’t want to stop using it, so you’re still playing the persecution card whenever you possibly can, but you’re in danger of overplaying your hand. When athletes are publicly hailed as “heroes” for announcing their gayness and every TV show has one or two gay subplots, giving gays representation in media vastly out of proportion with your actual numbers, and a nearly 70-year-old man wins a “woman of the year” award just for putting on a skirt, AND, on TOP of all that, Christians are losing our businesses and livelihoods because we don’t want to participate in your subversion of western civilization ... it’s pretty absurd for you to still be playing up the “oppressed and persecuted minority” farce. It’s played out. You should quit while you’re ahead.

Just Mat #fundie disqus.com

Well, You'll soon get to find out. Get saved before it's too late. Jesus is not a myth and the Lake of Fire (which I was referring to are not myths). And if He is not your only savior then you, too will burn forever in hell. Your choice. But you had better look at that picture because that's going to be you, too. And the burning will be forever and ever in time and not merely finality as you're trying to twist to make your lost soul feel good.

Mick Williams #fundie disqus.com

Mick Williams:
Speaking of apostasy, I'm not sure if a cult or an atheist tore up some posted leaflets at a jogging trail recently. He was dumb enough to leave the pieces there, so I taped them back together. Tomorrow I'll tack them back on the same trees. He'll no doubt do it again, but it'll be twice he's rejected the word. Talk about heaping coals of fire on his head. . .

Lady Checkmate:
Excellent. We're tasked with sharing the word, not forcing anyone to accept it.
Keep up the good work!!

WorldGoneCrazy #homophobia disqus.com

“but that goes to the crux of the issue of christians believing that marriage belongs to them and their god.”

Not at all - I was an atheist when I got married. Gay “marriage” is destructive on secular counts: bad for the individuals (the homosexual lifestyle is shown to be destructive by secular sources such as the CDC, etc), bad for children (who are adopted by gay “parents” as proven from secular sources), and bad for society (as religious freedoms are eroded).

“invoking darwinism is useless, of course aberrations from the norm that do not contribute to the gene pool exist.”

Thank you for admitting that homosexual behavior is a defective aberration, even on atheism!

“and you are falling into a logical fallacy by implying that gay marriage is opening the door for “two” to become more, “consenting” to become forced, and "adults" to include children”

Not at all. So, you cannot tell me why the SCOTUS “argument” in favor of gay “marriage” would preclude “more than two,” “non-consenting,” child-adult marriages, do I have that correct?

WorldGoneCrazy #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

On gay marriage leading to legalized murder

[That's ludicrous. One party in a murder doesn't consent! Both parties to a same sex marriage do. What is so difficult about that?]

Oh, and "consent" is an arbitrary value, which has no objective basis whatsoever in secularism. You are discriminating against those people who desire to have a loving relationship with someone else who does not consent, or even a child who does! And any age limitation on consent is arbitrary under your view as well.

afchief #homophobia #fundie disqus.com

Sorry, but the truth ALWAYS offends!!! Homosexualty is sin. It is wrong! It is dangerous. Any rational mind KNOWS the back door is not for sex. And do not tell me lots of hetros do it to. That is a boldface lie!!! The anal muscle is what's known as a "round muscle". Think of it as being like a rubber band, rather than a sheet stretching from one area to another. These muscles have a very specific design and function. They are meant to keep things closed.

If that muscle is stretched, it develops microtears. Now with a regular muscle, microtears mend and the muscle is built up, which is how exercise gets you toned and/or built. Round muscles don't work that way. Microtears never fully heal, and the entire muscle is weakened.

That is *why* gay men end up needing diapers over time. The anal muscle can no longer close tightly enough to prevent leakage.

And arguing about whether HIV is a 'gay' disease or not is so stupid, it's like discussing whether smoking causes lung cancer or if pit bulls are more aggressive than other dogs. Some people just refuse to admit the obvious truth and so quibble over minutia.

Unless you engage in male-on-male homosexual sex, basically the only way you will ever catch HIV is by using dirty needles.

Again, you and other homosexuals ALWAYS suppress the truth in unrighteousness. Your posts are PROOF!!!

Paul Abeyta #homophobia #fundie disqus.com

(=Two qoutes by the same person on the same thread=)

1. You're pretty late to the conservation. Of course SSM isn't discussed - because the Bible does not need to address something that doesn't exist. What I mean to say of course - is that marriage is between a man and a woman. Therefore, SSM is not even mentioned because there is no need of it. It is a myth (granted - a myth that many cultures recognize, even judicially). The sexual union between same gender couples is never a marriage according to God - not by what Scripture defines marriage as at least. It is sin.

2. Letting people know that God abhors homosexuality is loving - it's calling them to repentance and that is also loving. It would not be loving to be silent and let them perish in their sin, or even worse - to call evil, good and affirm them in their sin.
By calling her to repentance (even more now - how I hope that the Lord softens her heart since she now revealed herself as a lesbian), I am loving her as I love myself - I spend a lot of time with my own sin in view - asking that God would cleanse me from all my transgressions - knowing that I am forgiven in Christ, yet not taking pleasure in my sin (when I realize that I am committing sin).
Please note though how Vicky has hardened her heart. Only a few months ago, she was in favor of homosexual marriage. Now, after not repenting, here she is not only championing the sin of others, but lost in the same sin herself.
Lord have mercy.

IMHO #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

IMHO:
The American flag and the queer flag stand for the same thing. Empowerment and equality of deviant God haters.

Canis Vulpes:
The American flag stands for the country of The United States of America.
The LGBT flag stands for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered people.
So no, not the same thing.

IMHO:
Perhaps you should study on that a little more. The Constitution guarantees the rights of the deviant left and since this is a democracy then they can hold office and push whatever legislation they want. Now we have an openly homo running for president who will be seeking more "rights" for the deviants.
You may say that they should have equal rights too. But they are not making equal rights, they are seeking favor by taking away CHRISTIAN rights. The right to associate is the most basic right of religion and they started taking that away early on with their socialist legislation and taxation to pay for it. Now they want to teach "alternate" sex in schools which is a result of the socialist decision to teach "sex ed" in schools. The examples/proof goes on and on.
Look at the liberal lefts other front runner Sanders. He wants to spend trillions of our dollars on his socialist agenda. And all the while "Freedom of the Press" has given ultimate power to the liberal left media to control peoples thinking, make the issues and set the arguments.
The socalled "Right" is just another side of the same coin.
The flag does stand for the U.S.A. and the constitution which it upholds. Any Christian who flies it is supporting an ungodly government plain and simple. Before long I wouldn't be surprised to see a rainbow flag over the Capitol.

Canis Vulpes:
The only rights Buttigieg would be looking for for LGBT people at this point is to protect them from raging Christofascists who want them dead because their holy book says so. I assume you have a problem with that, keeping people safe from harm from bigots.
It isn't the homosexuals trying to take away Christian rights, it's people who want to uphold the divide between church and state. And if someone taught me in school that hey, homosexuals exist, they are what they are and have existed since the beginning of time and no, they're not interested in your children, and could you maybe please not attack and kill them, I can't see why I or anyone else would take issue with that.
For a smaller portion of the population, it IS normal. Just like being left-handed.

Lady Checkmate #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "U.S. Justice Dept. Files Brief Rejecting LGBTQ Workplace Protections"

Praise God!

Homosexuality is a behavior choice. Being a certain race, gender, etc. is NOT a choice. Sin should NOT be rewarded. We love and pray for the homosexuals, but we must not reward their rebellion against God.

"The U.S. Justice Department said flatly in a legal brief that federal civil rights law does not ban discrimination based on sexual orientation."

Don't forget to RECOMMEND. Lets get the Truth out so that Light may shine bright in this dark place and Jesus Christ may be glorified.Even if the discussion is closed, please still RECOMMEND.

http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/u-s-justice-dept-files-brief-rejecting-lgbtq-workplace-protections-1011644995806

Susan Jane Elohim #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

Floodlight:
We are talking about raising a child, and the care and selflessness that goes along with doing such a thing. Qualities that are not absent merely because a parent is homosexual.

Susan Jane Elohim:
Go read “Are You a Carnal Christian?” on billygraham dot org.
Carnality is the great problem of human nature and Jesus came to forgive our sins and help us out of it.
Unfortunately, people like their literal i.e. carnal views of the Bible more than mastering God’s more spiritual views. There are a lot of baby Christians around who can talk the talk but don’t walk the walk and they like to hang out online.
But their example doesn’t invalidate the example of people who can walk the walk. Find those people to learn from then God might actually turn you into a lover.
Going from being a hater into being a lover IS true spiritual change and only God and Christ through the Holy Spirit can make that happen yet the atheists run around today saying miracles never happen.
But all you have to do is locate a few people who know God changed them from haters into lovers to know that miracles still happen.
So do your due diligence and seek.
Seeking is > arguing and you can tell that by their fruits i.e. results.

Floodlight:
Did you have anything to say on the subject of homosexuals adopting, or was this just a drive-by proselytizing?

Susan Jane Elohim:
I am explaining. The natural or carnal man is given to thinking literally. It doesn’t matter if he’s an unbeliever or a less mature Christian in the making.

Both start out carnal and literal minded because the natural man comes first then the spiritual man later if you have Jesus. That’s God explanation.

Don’t bother responding. I don’t feel like arguing. If you haven’t seen how literalminded and zealous an atheist can be then you haven’t spent as much time observing them as I have. To my way of thinking they spend a good bit of their time over reacting to literal fundamentalism which makes them just as zealous as some Christian fundamentalists are.

Why are you going out of your way to come over to a Christian site and engage people that you disapprove of if that isn’t zeal?

Think about it.

Floodlight:
I’m sorry, the subject here is gay adoption. I see nothing whatsoever in your walls of text that address that subject, and I can’t even tell if you support or oppose it.

Alan Minchin #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

(=Response to a discussion about the Bible not originally condemning homosexuality. The discussion is fairly lengthy=)

Your first two sentences are incorrect. Homosexual activity was proscribed from earliest Old Testament times as shown in Deuteronomy 23:17 & 18, 1 Kings 14:24 and 2 Kings 23:7.

The sin of Sodom that led to its demise was recognised in the Letter of Jude written probably cAD65 or possibly cAD80.

Errors, alterations and additions in and to biblical texts are well known to modern biblical scholarship, and a good study Bible illustrates these matters so that, I and all of today's readers are able to discern the original intent.

Concerning Leviticus 20:13. Your information, though informative, is not persuasive. To ritually defile someone (especially by accident) would have been seen as a hateful thing but not warranting the death penalty which we can see was ordered for the most serious of sexual offences.
Concerning your comment about Leviticus 18. Between vv6 - 23 there are 17 prohibitive verses regarding unlawful sexual relations and just 1 non-sexual prohibition. So, yes, this seems to be, with one exception, "all about sex".

Oboehner #homophobia disqus.com

(on homosexuality as a disorder being outdated information)

Outdated only because of gay activists making it so. You only wish to believe homosexuality is not perversion but a normal variation of human sexuality, when in fact another person's consent has no bearing on the mental state of the other person. Yet those trying to peddle gay as good desperately cling to that fallacy. Sexual desire is sexual desire, the ONLY difference is the object of that desire.

Chet #fundie disqus.com

I've seen enough this past week in stores to get a pretty good idea what it's going to be like for the unsaved during the Tribulation, where, regardless of their possible fat bank account, one will not be able to buy bread without the mark of the beast. And I can easily envision lost souls giving themselves over to the Devil while in this me, me, me, I, I, I, survival mode. Then, they're eternally lost...

Grace Kim Kwon #fundie #homophobia #transphobia disqus.com

Western Sodom pours money upon many who goes public as transgender or homosexual. It's like for women showing more skin. Ex-christian West is worse than a pagan world. They ruin kids to make money.

"What is Western Sodom, and where does it get its wealth from, and what are you talking about?"

Western Sodom is homosexual immorality-wired Western nations and their mimicking mentally-servant nations; their wealth comes from making poor nations work for nothing. The West congratulates immoral people as heroes and encourages coming out as something immoral and rebellious against God. It is observed that God is striking secular nations with childlessness and hopelessness. The land will go to other peoples. The Lord alone knows what will happen to nations, but He decreed severe judgment upon the sinful nations in the Endtime. You need to repent of your sins to get saved. (John chapter3)

Grace Kim Kwon #fundie #homophobia #racist disqus.com

Grace Kim Kwon:
Mankind need Christianity's dominion for the truth, freedom, equality, civility, and justice. The Ex-christian USA forces people to endorse Sodomy, and if people do not comply, the USA punishes them. Some Western nations should be tried for human rights abuses this century. Everyone has rights to sane morality.
Western whites and their mental slaves should differenciate three things and never put them together. 1) Skin colors or races and tribes 2) Mental and/or physical disability 3) Sexual sins such as homosexuality and pedophilia and transgenderism.

Croquet_Player:
I'm always astonished how someone who admires the U.S. is so perpetually and unfailingly clueless about the Constitution and how the government works. Particularly after numerous people have kindly and very patiently tried to explain it to you.

Grace Kim Kwon:
C-P, I don't want to be bullied by the Western whites for opposing the homosexual depravity. It's a ridiculous nightmare after what all the colored mankind went through at the hands of the Western whites. You guys are joking, right? Please stop being bored. You guys need Christianity to be humane and to do anything good and right. Spare the children, animals, and robots from the sick Western or pagan perv sex-addiction. Only Christianity can make and keep mankind civilized.

Roger Marks #homophobia disqus.com

Well, the government has finally discovered the truth. That a child does best when they are raised by a mum and dad.

What we need now is for some enterprising organisation to bring a case against the HHS on the basis that not putting a child with a mum and dad is discrimination for the child and consigning them to a second class existence.

I have been told that there are 3,000 pieces of research that backs the mum and dad scenario so if the HHS has doubts they do not need to have any.

The only thing that would stop you winning such a case is ideology. That homosexuals must not be discriminated against in any way even if it is bad for the children concerned. In other words, the wants of homosexuals override the needs of all others.

Lady Checkmate #fundie #homophobia #transphobia disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Parents plan 'Sex Ed Sit Out' to protest sexualized school curricula and sexualization of children"

(cut-and-pasted from Fox News, link here: http://www.foxnews.com/family/2018/04/12/parents-plan-sex-ed-sit-out-to-protest-sexualized-school-curricula.html)

Buddy:
Public schools have to teach real world issues. If you want to keep your children isolated from the world we live in, then put them in private school. As an educator however, I can say from experience that you are putting your children at a real disadvantage.

Lady Checkmate:
Education is meant to teach children reading, writing, arithmetic, etc., not promote an alt-left agenda that tells children they must decide at 3 if they are male or female and that grown men want to rape them, i.e., sexualizing children should NOT be a part of the curriculum nor should a foolish teacher/educator be allowed to manipulate the curriculum to include the sexualization of children nor promote their twisted "child rape" agenda. "Real world issues", taught in school, DO NOT and SHOULD NOT include sexualizing children. No matter how you word it, it's wrong. And if you're here to promote that (the sexualization of children/child rape), your stay will be brief. You can quote me on that.
Enjoy your day.

Buddy:
I'm a school teacher and I honestly wish that all we had to do is teach our kids the core subjects. Unfortunately, we are often faced with sexual issues because parents such as this woman will not teach their children anything about sex. I know because I had conservatives parents that never taught me about sex or homosexuality or anything like that. I learned by seeing dirty magazines and porn. No one should learn about sex in that way.

Lady Checkmate:
Buddy, you're trying to conflate two different issues. Sex (male and female within a marriage covenant) is natural and should be taught, at the right age. I'm sure mom is teaching her children about natural sex and the marriage covenant, husband and wife, as that's biblical. Anything outside of God's design is sin and abominations and NO, no decent parent (who loves their children) will teach their children to sin, i.e., rebel against God. Homosexuality is a sexual behavior choice and an abomination before God, so no, she is NOT teaching her children to sin. Stop your troll games, sir. They're boring, childish and simple.
Finally, you've been trolling our community for awhile, so let's wrap this up - get to the heart of your issue and why you're obsessed with us. It seems your parents taught you right, they didn't teach you to sin, BUT you chose to sin and rebelled against their sound teachings and God. How sad, for you. At least they tried. God will honor them for doing the right thing. You may be a prodigal, but you come across as reprobate. Seek Jesus Christ. If you're a prodigal, He hasn't turned His back on you, even if you turned your back on Him. Either way, you and I are done. I don't have time to be your substitute parent for you to project your issues on. My prayers are with your parents, any children you're exposed to and that if you're prodigal you return to God sooner than later. Again, stop the troll sock games and get right w/God OR move on. I'm not here to play with you.
P.S. Children are off limits here and trolling violates our community guidelines. Final warning.

Oboehner #fundie disqus.com

(after being referred to a talkorigins.org list of 29 proofs of evolution)

"Common Sense is Not Science" - it's assumption
"Science Provides Evidence for the Unobservable via INFERENCE" - Speculation
Why don't you stop hiding behind website links and post one of your own topics? Probably because all you have is blind faith.

David van Heerden #homophobia disqus.com

"There is nothing in Michael C's post that suggests hate. Unlike yourself, he has not proposed killing homosexuals."

There is indeed nothing. It doesn't agree with his other posts, which is why I say he's lying. And yes, homosexuals should be executed, but my grandchildren are not yet in government.

MidNightRider2001 #homophobia #sexist disqus.com

The rapid homosexualization of the US population over the past 3 decades shows how sex ratios become imbalanced and unequal. It's now not possible for a large percentage of males under age 30 to even date a woman due to higher rates of non-heterosexuality in females. You can read the study and see for yourself.
Now, it's possible the homosexually displaced heterosexual males will turn to drugs, booze, video games, or other activities and nothing will happen.
Or it's possible some of these males will realize that they're victims of a world that's thrown them overboard and violence will ensue. It may create a small civil war or regular acts of terrorism. Only time will tell.
When a large enough portion of males realize women may legally wed women, yet they as men are mathematically eliminated from doing so, I predict violence. In fact, we may have already seen some in the past college shootings.

Lady Checkmate #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "UPDATE: HIV Positive, Homosexual former teacher's aide gets 105 years on child porn charges"

(NOTE: The cut-and-pasted Fox News article Lady Checkmate took this from indicates nowhere that the subject was homosexual, nor can this information be found elsewhere. Fox News link here: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/27/former-teachers-aide-gets-105-years-on-child-porn-charges.html

Lady Checkmate:
Prayers.

Lady Checkmate #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

Sexually abused as a child, a satan worshiper finds Jesus, through the prayers of a stranger!!

https://youtu.be/20xpyQvrTug

A desperate man who had been beaten and sexually abused by his closeted homosexual father and raped by a homosexual male friend of his family as a child, struggled with depression and suicidal thoughts. He tried to escape the pain through drug addiction and pimping. Feeling lost and abandoned, he began rebelling, big time, against God, by getting deeply involved in satan worship, as a means to get back at God, but he finds Jesus, and becomes Born Again! Keep praying. There is deliverance in Jesus Christ!!

Lady Checkmate #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

(Commenting on story "No to Starbucks: Lady Gaga and Starbucks invest in promoting homosexuality amongst youth", story here: http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/2017/06/13/lady-gaga-and-starbucks-collaborate-on-2-new-drinks-for-charity.html)

Make no mistake: Gaga and Starbucks are taking 25 cent from each dollar you spend at Starbucks and putting it toward indoctrinating children and spreading a fake doctrine that homosexuality is normal...it's not. It's an abomination and God is not pleased with it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_This_Way_Foundation

*Disclaimer: I don't support suicide nor bullying, but I also don't support lying to anyone and causing them to sin and rebel against God.

Mick Williams #fundie disqus.com

Headline: "Today's Laugh 1-23-18"

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Lady Checkmate:
Lol??. Good one, Mick.
I think I have a couple of liberal tendencies, but they're in line with the word, helping the poor, etc. Thank God, whew??.
Thank you for breaking up the monotony of the day??. Your OPs make my day. I usually try to save them as a way to treat myself, but this one pulled me in right away. I couldn't wait.

Mick Williams:
Ordinary folks can be as funny as those wacky celebrities. Thanks, all--it's fun being a comedian.

Vaquero #fundie #wingnut disqus.com

I want free money,
I want free house
I want free car
I want free gas
I want free food
I want free clothing

I want free drink
I want free marijuana
I want a free vacation in Europe
I want free sex with a lot of girls
And I want you to pay for the all of this. On the base being I am a living human being.

Duddly Doright #wingnut #homophobia disqus.com

[On Liberals buying guns]

This is a real danger to the 2nd amendment as the Libards can use the increasing number on murders as justification to outlaw all firearms.

The problem is that Gays (Male Sodomites) are by definition mentally ill and thus should not be able to purchase firearms.

They are also very prone to fits of jealous violence. The old, politically incorrect term was HOMOcide.

HOMOCIDE:
Slang term used to describe one of several methods gay men sometimes employ when murdering a homosexual lover. Examples: genitals cut off and stuffed in victim's mouth, objects crammed into body orifices , etc.

http://www.policemag.com/cop-slang/homocide.aspx

Not to mention that drug use among homosexuals is extremely wide spread.

Gay men and lesbians are three times more likely to use illegal drugs than straight people, a British Home Office-funded study says.

http://www.eurad.net/en/news/consumption_data/New+study%3A+Drugs+and+the+Gay+community.9UFRnMXr.ips

Among gay men, the “Party and Play” scene has been growing in popularity over the past decade. These sessions, which are generally organized on Craigslist or other websites feature intense drug taking and sex with multiple partners. Crystal meth and ecstasy are the drugs of choice for these “instant parties” because of their psychotropic effects, and in the case of crystal meth, their ability to help people stay awake well into the night and prevent ejaculation during sex.

http://www.michaelshouse.com/featured-articles/drug-abuse-gay-nightlife/

A bunch of armed mentally ill people, the males especially, who routinely get high on meth.

What could go wrong!