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BlueCross787 #fundie iidb.org

[Replying to the remark that we as a human species are not weak, but robust as shown by our scientific advances]

Scientific advances? Like polluting the environment and inventing cancer!?

pokoloko #fundie iidb.org

Most politicians and religious leaders are members of secret societies. Masonry and the Vatican control the power of the world. These societies and the Vatican practice satanism. They have created international terrorism with the purpose of creating the third World War. They want to make it appear that all conflicts have been caused by conflicts and divisions between world countries and religions to establish a one world government and religion ruled by a leader who will claim to be the prophesied Messiah and to rule by divine authority. They will quote Bible verses to deceive people into thinking this is the Kingdom of God, and they will make all kind of signs and wonders. The UFO phenomenon and New Age Movement have been created for this purpose. This is the kingdom of the beast prophesied in the Bible in which all nations will gather. All people will worship the beast and all true followers of Yeshua will be persecuted. The aliens are fallen angels and hybrids, the gods worshipped by the ancient civilizations. Of course they will present great benefits to the population and they will relase new technologies and promises of peace and prosperity but do not believe them, they are only lying. This will be a fascist government, where all the people will be implanted with mind control chips and the useless eaters put to death. They have planted many lies to keep us away from the truth. God is not of any religion or denomination, because all are controlled and have substituted God because they claim to be the Truth, the Way and the Life. God is in our heart and teaches us individually, we must only understand and do what He commands. The Only Way is Yahshua the Messiah. What the majority believes is always the lie. Where the carcass is (false Christ), the vultures will gather (multitudes). <<<a href="http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/" target="_blank">http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/</a>>> <<<a href="http://www.sherryshriner.com/" target="_blank">http://www.sherryshriner.com/</a>>> <<<a href="http://www.mt.net/~watcher/" target="_blank">http://www.mt.net/~watcher/</a>>>

kerravon #fundie iidb.org

I was an atheist most of my life, since the age of about 12. After ditching the tooth fairy, easter bunny and santa claus, God was next in line. This was my liberation. I was of the opinion that there was no God, and that all rational people should draw the same conclusion. The only thing that could possibly budge me from my position was EVIDENCE.

Well, in September 2004, I got the evidence. Absolute proof in fact. I got it shortly after I wrote message 666 on the 3rd anniversary of 9/11. Message 666 was the culmination of my 37 years of searching for the words to describe my ideology/religion (as an atheist I was STRONGLY supporting freedom and human rights). You can read about message 666 here (I've posted it before):

<a href="http://antisubjugator.blogspot.com/2005/07/sign-of-beast.html" target="_blank">http://antisubjugator.blogspot.com/2005/07/sign-of-beast.html</a>

However, as you have probably guessed already, the proof that I was given was not independently scientifically verifiable. Which means you have no option other than to dismiss it. Or at most, you can only accept it as a theory. So anyway, here is the "theory":

We are living in a computer simulation, and God is the computer programmer. This model does not require supernatural powers. All it requires is for us to have computer technology more advanced than we have at the moment - Artificial Intelligence for starters. In a 15 billion year history, don't you think it is quite improbable that we happened to be born just when computers, nukes and the internet were invented? And also just when the USSR collapsed opening the way for worldwide freedom. And on a millenium year as well. A mere 1 million years either way would have drastically altered the simulation. Hell, even 1000 years either way would have drastically changed things.

I believe the universe is only a few decades old. God didn't sit around twiddling his thumbs for 15 billion years waiting for us to evolve. The whole thing is simulated. The whole universe is just a "virtual reality". We're probably really on a space ship, and this simulation is being run for entertainment purposes (can you think of anything better than a virtual reality to keep yourself entertained?).

And the reason God doesn't want to prove his existence is so that people will become atheists and be totally free. This is what he wants. He doesn't want to tell people how to live their lives, he wants us to make up our own rules. The only way we can be totally free is if we believe there is no God, or at least, that there's no God who's going to sit in judgement. In actual fact, we are all NATURAL ANIMALS. None of us are sinners. We all act in accordance with our genes, reacting to our environment, and using our imperfect logic skills. None of these things are our fault.

Anyway, my point is that there is definitely an intelligent entity in another dimension to us. So if you're a hard-core atheist, think again, because you're actually wrong (even though I can't scientifically prove that to your satisfaction). You need to update your model and allow for the possibility of a God, and convert to agnosticism instead. BTW, a computer simulation gives a logical reason why we can't reproduce life from raw ingredients - the properties are defined in software, which we don't have access to.

truelies #fundie iidb.org

How many of subscribe to the idea that the steep decline in violent crime rates in the early 1990's is attributable to the aborting of many of the crime prone un the early to mid 1970's??? Don't be shy raise your hands.

Albert Cipriani #fundie iidb.org

If you don’t accept the results, simply don’t perform the action that produces the unacceptable results. It’s that simple. I’m amazed our worthless society needs condoms, sex education, and abortions to complicate this supposed problem.

hope's daughter #fundie iidb.org

[After an extensive rebuttal with numerous medical sources is posted]I can not believe you wrote what you wrote. You are worried how acedemic you appear to others while babies are being murdered.

Magus55 #fundie iidb.org

It[ creating a young universe that looks old i]s not deception if you trust God over humans. And in my book, if the universe looks 12 billion years old, but God implied it was created 6000 years ago [in the Bible], then it was created 6000 years ago at the maturity level of 12 billion years

Consistent Thinker #fundie iidb.org

The economic and political philosophy of communism was intended to cause suffering and death among gentiles... The talmud directs jews to kill the best and brightest of the non-jews in order to further jewish goals. Thus, it is no wonder intellectuals were slaughtered in communist countries.

David Mathews #fundie iidb.org

I should derive amusement from angry people, offensive people, obscene people and for all others who go out of their way to display hate for their fellow humans for any reason whatsoever. I am amused by how their behavior reveals their character.

David Mathews #fundie iidb.org

If you spent a little time listening to yourself you might realize that you come across as a very angry, sad, bitter person. Of course, I might be mistaken. Perhaps in real life you are a positive, delightful atheist.

long winded fool #fundie iidb.org

Sperm and eggs are not humans... They are parts of a human, but they are not humans. Fetuses are parts of a human, AND individual humans. <u>Not all living humans have brains</u>, and not all living humans have legs. Neither criteria should legally exclude them from the right to life. [Emphasis added]

hope's daughter #fundie iidb.org

... the Democratic party protects it by stone-walling the outlawing of it in an effort to cater to radical feminists they are liars and in no way are they advocates for the protection of children.

Magus55 #fundie iidb.org

Who determines that my view is the wrong way? Thats a cop out Hd and you know it. Since science can't prove anything as fact, its certaintly reasonable to have a different view outside mainstream science.

Albert Cipriani #fundie iidb.org

Well, in California, if a woman doesn't put her seat belt on her body, cops have the right to give her a $60 ticket. Isn't that a 'way whatsoever' that someone else has a right over a woman's body?

Prophetessofrage #fundie iidb.org

You Athiests really can't handle the truth can ya. Move my thread, close my thread, and worse CAN'T ANSWER MY THREAD... how just and fair of you ATHIESTS or if I'm not spelling it write, I'll call you what the Bible rightly calls you FOOLS.

Albert Cipriani #fundie iidb.org

[Replying to 'Early embryos have no brain...they are basically a parasite']The Lord Almighty, referring to LadyShea's soul when it floats up out of this world's septic tank for His inspection:  Methinks the lady has no charity... she has basically been a parasite breathing the air plants produced and eating food Mexican day-laborers harvested except when she held her breath during the Bork supreme court nomination process.

David Mathews #fundie iidb.org

Addressed to all Angry, Obscene & Offensive Atheists: I am David Mathews and have come here to provoke you to reveal your anger, your bitterness, your hate, your bigotry, your prejudice and every other flaw of your dismal and hopeless soul. The more obscene and offensive you are the better. Don't restrain yourself. Let go of your inhibitions!

truelies #fundie iidb.org

I can only conclude that some people literally want to see as many pregnancies as possible aborted and suffer a sense of personal defeat every time a potential abortion client Chooses Life.

theophilus #fundie iidb.org

The reality is that not only can't scientists prove things 'absolutely,' they can't prove anything period. The selection of one theory as an explanation over another is purely arbitrary.

hope's daughter #fundie iidb.org

[After it's shown late-term abortions are used only out of extreme medical necessity]Your post sounds like an emotional rant to me. Please write more rationally and I would be happy to address what you are concerned about.

Consistent Thinker #fundie iidb.org

I exercise my second amendment right to prepare effectively to defend myself, should I ever need to... I am being a gentleman now and warning you (plural) of this danger to yourselves, and I am very curious about how many of you will heed it.

David Mathews #fundie iidb.org

I see no reason why anyone should become angry about these things. I am not here to become angry at atheists, nor am I here to make atheists angry at me. But when I get an opportunity to press someone's buttons, I will do so.

Albert Cipriani #fundie iidb.org

If you can accuse me of wanting to force women to carry their babies to term, then I can accuse you women who have abortions of having forced their men to have had sex with them. That’s no less logical. Just more absurd.

Jim Larmore #fundie iidb.org

[Just a few minutes later, after many dissenting scholars are quoted]I have studied a lot over the years on the 'scholarly' interpretations of the ancient scripts. They are so messed up they can't tell heads or tails of much of anything. One scholar will contridict another etc.

senor boogie woogie #fundie iidb.org

If I was President of the USA... Social Security would be outlawed. The public school system would be thing of history. If you have 8 children, you pay for 8 children to go to school... Nasa would die. If you want to put a salllelite into space, your company will pay for it. The post office will die... cocaine, heroin and ecstacy would be decriminalized... The orpahnages will be for profit, which will maximaze placement to good quality families... The death penalty will be given to those who commit the following crimes... Rape... Armed robbery... Homosexuality with anyone under 16.

senor boogie woogie #fundie iidb.org

We become honest and tell homosexuals that they are sick and in need of psychological health. I think that the majority of Americans are sick ands tired of having the homosexual agenda rammed downed our collective throat.

Albert Cipriani #fundie iidb.org

Why punish babies because women choose to have sex stupidly and immorally?.. Your love of being consistently selfish is what animates your hatred of the once upon a time universal law against abortion. Babies must be chopped into pieces and sucked out of wombs so that those wombs can continue to behave irresponsibly. What an inspiring cause you champion.

Albert Cipriani #fundie iidb.org

Yeah, like when the mother is a broken-down syphilitic, having already bred 8 other children who is living in poverty and gets herself impregnated by her boss who remains married to another woman. Certainly, in such a case the 'real ill effects of a birth CAN be seen with a fair degree of certainty.'

Consistent Thinker #fundie iidb.org

Why is it that jews tend to claim to be very moral people, and yet try to excuse the other jews' atrocities? Do you think the 'son of sam' killer should be released from his New York cell because he is jewish?

dk #fundie iidb.org

A young women that finds herself pregnant has acted foolishly and immorally because she willingly acted to put herself and her unborn child in harms way, whatever her intent.

senor boogie woogie #fundie iidb.org

If the government was allowed to print objective, truthful statements about homosexuality, the populace would be against it. The American people are sick of the gay agenda anyway, but the powers that be has honest Americans too busy with work to pay taxes to object to the agenda. If you are too busyn slaving, you cannot complain.

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