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samurai #fundie iidb.org

LOOK: Naturalistic science had already labeled humans as animals, why not ask every human if they really evolve or created or not? If both nature and species (except humans) can't talk, why bother to make them as standard in changes of species?! HUMANS can talk, can express themselves...then, ask them. If they all say that they had evolved from lower forms of animals, then, it is natural that humans are the product of evolution process! Then, Evolution is really natural.

mike T.W. #fundie iidb.org

Also, this usually makes me think the bible must be true, as why would people argue so vehemently against that which they feel confidently is untrue? Thankyou for increasing my faith.

Prophetessofrage #fundie iidb.org

You Athiests really can't handle the truth can ya. Move my thread, close my thread, and worse CAN'T ANSWER MY THREAD... how just and fair of you ATHIESTS or if I'm not spelling it write, I'll call you what the Bible rightly calls you FOOLS.

Haylow #fundie iidb.org

Why a big bang, why not just a bang, or a little bang... why couldn't the bang be the size of a pea. Why wouldn't the bang keep on banging, what set the paramerters of the size of this bang for it to be any size that it can be claimed to be a big bang or is that claim false, if its false why claim it to be a big bang. Sounds like a bit of spice put on something to sell me something... Well i aint buying it. i'm sure there are a lot of fools that have.

David Mathews #fundie iidb.org

Addressed to all Angry, Obscene & Offensive Atheists: I am David Mathews and have come here to provoke you to reveal your anger, your bitterness, your hate, your bigotry, your prejudice and every other flaw of your dismal and hopeless soul. The more obscene and offensive you are the better. Don't restrain yourself. Let go of your inhibitions!

Mike(ATL) #fundie iidb.org

I realized just how poor of a job I was doing living my life. It became painfully obvious that I could not do what I should be doing on my own, I needed help... God has a way of breaking you down to make room for Him... hopefully Jesus will find you <u>in the same way</u>. [Emphasis added]

Bobby #fundie iidb.org

I am not in a cult. I am a born again, bible-believing Christian! That is not a cult! To all of you, I can say on judgment day that I told you that GOD was real, but you just mocked me. You will see that GOD is real when you see HIM as your judge. It will be too late for you to accept HIM then, so I urge you to please accept HIM now!

Haylow #fundie iidb.org

That seams improper to me, the more proper term would just be bang since they chose to stay with a term based on exageration i have just reason to remain skepitcal and that there are other motivations at work here. Don't be a sucker dude, there fooling you they don't want your pie to go to the chuch they wan't it to go to them. Find out the real reason why the theroy is still call the big bang...

Magus55 #fundie iidb.org

40 million babies have been killed because stupid people who don't take responsibility don't feel like dealing with them. And you criticize God for killing children in the flood?

Half-Life #fundie iidb.org

In the Bible it states that ocne adam and eve sinned they realized they were naked and covered up. They didn't want to be seen naked. Now if this never happened what is the purpose of wearing clothes?

Albert Cipriani #fundie iidb.org

Humans intuitively know about God in the same way chickens instinctively know how to peck. It's part of our nature. That's why atheism is intellectually an unnatural act... If your children lacked the imagination to have invisible friends, that’s too bad.

Ed #fundie iidb.org

['Hypothetically, if someone were to show you sufficient proof that it is likely that no deities exist, what would you do?']

I don't know, I guess I would probably have sex with as many pretty women as possible and cheat on my taxes and few other things that I thought I could get away with without getting caught. I would also try to make as much money as possible by just about any means possible, ie using other people as stepping stones. And just live for immediate gratification.

IronOne #fundie iidb.org

[...] A creationist scientist is bound by religious conviction to be honest with himself and others about the evidences of science. For a creationist scientist, lying about or intentionally misrepresenting evidence for or against evolution would be a serious sin. However, there is no such safeguard for evolutionist scientists. Without religious conviction, they are left with only intellectual conviction, which the world demonstrates is often weak when passions come into play.

[...] We have seen a number of haxes generated by non-believer evolutionists. There has not been to my knowledge a hoax generated by a creationist scientist.

Joyfilled #fundie iidb.org

Are you guys for real? Do you really think YOU, mere human beings, can prove that God is not omnipotent? Or is this some sort of mind game to promote the illusion that you're omnipotent? And you wonder why you can't go to a heaven that HE created? Do you know how many variables that you're leaving out? Do you even have a clue? Do you think that no superior reasoning exists beyond your own minds? Your first mistake is your premise that God cannot prove God. He has to me! Whoever thought of that statment was a human being who is trying to think his wisdom and logic are superior to God's. God will definitely show him that he does NOT run the universe.

Lysimachus #fundie iidb.org

Birds evolved from dinosaurs!!! REally??? The Bible says birds were created FIRST!!! Where is the concept of Evolution in all this? Dinosaurs finally got smaller, and grew wings that couldn't work? What sort of brainwashing does it take to believe this stuff???

Haylow #wingnut iidb.org

What about this, you have just come across a father beating his child are you going to abuse him(the father) and take away his rights like he is doing to the child... How is it moral you ask, is it moral that two wrongs make a right

VitalOne #fundie iidb.org

Well I'll tell you what I personally think, I don't really subscribe the implication of God or a designer, just an intelligent cause...this intelligent cause is the soul-mind. The DNA directly correlates to the soul-mind....the DNA changes are based chiefly on this energy....this is how evolution happened...I've been experimenting with this thought-energy for a while so I bet if I had a microscope and some equipment I could really prove it...but biology is not my major I'm not really that interested in biology as much as other things

Not_Registered #fundie iidb.org

You focus on the allowed beating of slaves. If slaves are lazy and insubordinate then they need some incentive to work (i.e. a beating). The bible doesn't tell masters they must beat their slaves. It says beating is allowed, being that it is necessary as an incentive to work. In fact, some slaves became slaves voluntarily, and thus were probably effecient workers for their masters. They probably never needed incentive to work because they knew what they were getting in to, thus beatings weren't necessary. Some slaves even chose to stay a slave under their master instead of being set free. Why? Were they sadist or masochist? No, I'm sure they had pleasant relationships with their masters because they did what was asked of them and needed no beatings as incentive.

Not_Registered #fundie iidb.org

If all slaves were treated appropiately and correctly... there would be no negative connotation applied to slaves or slavery. But, since many slaves were abused, killed, raped, maimed, etc., which was not in accordance with the bibles regulations, there has been a negative association applied to 'slavery' and 'slaves.'

Vanderzyden #fundie iidb.org

If the theistic evolutionist refuses to answer, or relegates God to the background (thinking him not worth the bother because he isn't empirically detectable), then it is clear that we are dealing not with a theist, but a Darwinist who happens to be agnostic. Again, it would seem that the theistic evolutionist attempts to reconcile what cannot possibly be joined together.

Uncle Davey #fundie iidb.org

(on his Rejection of Evolution)
I also rejected it because even at the age of 14, and having had evolution brainwashed into me in school and nothing about creation, I nevertheless had a nose for when I was being fed a line.

Douglas J. Bender #fundie iidb.org

As much as evolutionists are averse to changing their thinking, and as much as their biases inform their opinions in spite of all the facts, I still think they are capable, at times, of rational thought.

shivalinga #fundie iidb.org

the motivation of those who ignore all the science that creates problems for evolutionary theory is clearly based not on scientific reasoning... but instead on the negation principle i.e.- it's either evolution or creation, i don't accept creation,therefore evolution must be correct.

emotional #fundie iidb.org

If you say there is no reason to believe in theistic evolution, I will agree with you. I find theistic evolution the best way to keep my cherished beliefs without having to go to war against the facts. Theistic evolution is a compromise, certainly, but it's the only way to keep vital faith without resorting to creationism. If someone should convince me that theistic evolution is an untenable position, I will inevitably become a creationist, because full-fledged materialism is for me not an option.

WalkingWithFire #fundie iidb.org

Why is it so hard for you to accept that demons exist? Just because you don't comprehend their existence doesn't mean others can't. I guess it's easier for you to just attribute it to something else than accept that maybe it's real. Less responsibility that way.

Amos #fundie iidb.org

Evolution is the theory of dummies who actually think that nature has a mind to make selections. To be sure, "natural selection" implies the existence of intelligenge does it not? Please tell me where this mind of nature is. Adaptation requires intelligence because to adapt implies to change when needed. Mutations do not require intelligence. Random mutation is suppose to answer everything because it is random and does not require a mind. I would call that biology for dummies. I don't object to mutations but do not see that to be an acceptable answer to justify qualities and innate abilities.

Robert Byers #fundie iidb.org

First. We do come from Africa much less a black origin.
The bible says babel is where men separated to fill the earth.

The black colour and other black attributes is a extreme reaction of the human body to a hostile envirorment. Likewise white is a extreme reaction.
The colours in between are more close to the original.
I suspect skin in the beginning was more adaptable but after all the adapting it shuts down doing any more.

The whitw skin and hair is for one purpose. To allow the benifits of sunlight to be absorbed by the body. The cloudier . over the year, it is the whiter you are. Along with this is also that women are faired because they historically would of covered more of thier body for decency and perhaps more sheltered.

The people in the more cloudy area, very north Europe, had such a cloudy issue that thier bodies reduced almost all pigmentation to red spots and hair. Red headed men, despite being related to the hairist men in the world, shave very little and likewise redheaded women have the lowest hair count of europeon women who have the most hair of any women.
I believe also blue eyes are the result of pimentation issues.

White skin was a extreme reaction to problems met by the first settlers. Finns are white and yet a very asian people (by language) I believe.

The asian skin doesn't need protection from the sun but also didn't have lack of sun issues. Thier hair betrays this
The Asian head is made to deal with a strong dangerous wind. So the eyes, upper cheeks, and uncurling hair are all to withstand the forces of wind.

They were not in a wet world so little hair is needed and pigmentation loss was not needed. They bummped into the ice age about 1800 B.C and so God provided thier bodies with an ability to adapt quickly. Not by natural selection.

Robert Byers #fundie iidb.org

The support to our ideas is our general model based on scripture and practical evidence in the field. We do no more or less speculation then your team in actual analysis.
Oil being fluid makes it more likely to have been made quickly like in a juicer because of analagy to other elements in nature.
I guess its nature as crushed life makes it more common sensical that it was created instantly then long processes.

winner #fundie iidb.org

Christmas Star

The Star of Bethlehem was likely the mobile throne of God in Eze 1, the famous sapphire throne. The Father looking down on the birth of His son. That is why the star charts likely won't have a record of it.

The Star of Bethlehem has long been a mystery. Science has not found any star that fits the bill, of the time, and place that it was supposed to shine.

I propose that the star was a flying saucer, based on some evidence from the bible. That would explain why it was not seen far away, and not a 'star' in the modern sense of the word.

I call the vessel, the 'Sceptre'

Gen 49:10 - The scepter shall not depart from Judah, Nor the ruler's staff from between his feet, Until Shiloh comes, And to him shall be the obedience of the peoples.

Ps 45:6 - Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre.

What about it??

Robert Byers #fundie iidb.org

I am a creationist but I think its unlikely asteroids were propelled up into space. I believe the bible says a third of the stars fell to earth during a cosmic fight between satan the angle Michael. This would be soon after the fall. This explains, if accurate, where the choas we finf in space now comes from. Plus where all the great crators here and on other space bodies come from. The movement during the flood would of destroyed many craters or hidden them. Perhaps many meteors did not actually touch the earth but were destroyed as they entered.
I might speculate that all the devastating meteors is what turned much of the planet into a inhospitalable place and so particular kinds of animals did better then others. Dinos, lizards etc.
Just thought I throw my two sense in.

Robert Byers #fundie iidb.org

You are the Professer. In your knowledge of the hand/biology/medicine what is a specific gain from an evolutionary premise that has progressed the hand medicine.
Of coarse I think there has been nothing and evolution has just hitched a ride on actual biologists achievments.

afdave #fundie iidb.org

I think the idea that coal and oil formed gradually is without any support whatsoever ... Totally implausible to me. I think it is much more likely that it was all formed in a single catastrophe ... The Global Flood.

Robert Byers #fundie iidb.org

I don't like the word evolve but rather adapt.
Yes I think adaptation takes place instantly. Dolphins would of gone from land to sea in say five years after the flood.
The evidence that creatures change from one state to another is excellent. Only the mechanism and time is a problem.
I believe that marsupials are just the same creatures as elsewhere on the planet. So important, if minor, change can take place quickly. As long as a creature stays within its kind. Whatever that is.
The verse in the bible is correctly interpretated as giants of the deep and not whales.

AfDave #fundie iidb.org

Again I ask ... Where is the actual hard evidence that there is any water on any other planets?

No speculation allowed here. If I allow you to speculate, then we might as well say not only is there water on other planets, but also little green men and such.

If you don't have any real evidence for it, then it is most reasonable to say that water in asteroids probably came from earth.

afdave #fundie iidb.org

(This posting speaks for itself)

[Wow! Now this is some serious creo-denial going on!
If the evidence for water on Mars, Europa, etc. is questionable, (!?) What makes you think the evidence for water on asteroids is beyond question???]

Yes, yes, I realize there is a little water ice in these places, but it's very small compared to what's on earth. And we have a mechanism for getting some of earth's massive water supply out into space ... so ... the most logical idea is ... the water came from earth.

afdave #fundie iidb.org

(afdave is a Real Scientist)

The universe appears to be rather full of water? Please. You don't even have any hard evidence for very much water on any other planets in our solar system, much less in the entire universe. The best evidence for water in places OTHER than earth says that there is some in comets and asteroids. Not oceans on Europa and elsewhere.

cutegecko3 #fundie iidb.org

[Right...so, if all current types of terrestrial life on earth came from the ark, why didn't the more efficient placentals beat marsupials from Mt. Ararat to Australia and why did marsupials make it at all?]

Did it occur to anyone that cats hate water.And perhaps marsupials could have easily made the swim from Papua New Guinea to Austrailia.