My attitude towards science is very much one of mistrust, contempt and fear. Man had many comforts of faith in the past, such as geocentrism and special creationism, and science has done all to violate those shrines. I concede heliocentrism and evolution, but I will not let science touch God and the afterlife. If science says there is no God and no afterlife, then science can go to hell.
However, the existence of life, particularly human life requires something for which Darwinism has no answer: information, faculties of reason, language, increasing complexity, and finally, humanity.
So George Lucas is presenting the idea of a lightsaber(untruth) as untruth? But the lightsabers are real and working in the SW universe! So he is presenting an untruth as truth, we need to believe that it is truth otherwise the movie fails.
Many foreign people think capitalism is 'immoral.' I said (and I quote) 'If all slaves were treated appropriately and correctly.' Getting treated not 'good' and 'unjust' doesn’t fall under those regulations.
[After someone says that his logic applies to old spy novels as well]OK James Bond is made up fiction but I just wondered, if God did not exist, what would possess people say He does, let alone worship Him.
Doesnt it take an INTELLIGENT being to say men need to walk or just another beautiful coincidence, monkey did it ? I can go on and on, mountains and all its beautiful designs, or beautiful coincidence ? I'm just trying to say that creatism is the most intelligent argument in my opinion.
One of the usual pagan vomit is that the bible is innacurate and corrupt, to use an islamaniacal idiom. But that is a lie, a bald face lie, that bald face liars have no problems with, parroting their idiocy shamelessly. No the bible is not corrupt, and every word in it is accurate. In fact, the bible is the most accurately transmitted document on the face of the earth, with a multitude of historical documents that attest to the exactitude of todays text. Old Hebrew literal bibles are available with Strong's dictionaries for those who seek to gain better understanding of dark passages. But that wouldn't stop the bible haters from hating it, or accepting it, or reviling it, because truth is not what scum are looking for, they're looking for excuses to hate and to murder, and that's as good an excuse as any.
Do we all agree that a police officer is allowed to make arrest? (simple question, simple answer) I've always wanted to be a phrophet and I think I've just had a vision. I foresee several people not answering the question, saying the question is irrelevant, circumventing the question, and ignoring the question altogether. Hummmmmmmmmmm. Hummmmmmmmm. Yeeees, the vision is growing clearer by the second.
Well in science there is a rule called Occam's Razor which, roughly translated, means one shouldn't contrive complex and unneccesary explanations. The explanation that presents appear on Christmas morning because of Santa is one such explanation. The explanation that God is the cause of existence is not one such explanation.
I think the idea that coal and oil formed gradually is without any support whatsoever ... Totally implausible to me. I think it is much more likely that it was all formed in a single catastrophe ... The Global Flood.
The theory of evolution is held to be 'tenable' only because it offers a possible naturalistic (read anti-theistic) explanation of origins. The theory was not arrived at as the only reasonable explanation for the evidence; indeed much of the 'evidence' did not exist when the Greeks first came up with the idea.
Dear full blown atheist, I know there is a lot of science out there, but can atheists really fully believe that the cosmos so perfectly supports such a huge and diverse variety of life as a result of random chance?.. Doesn't it seem like this was created to work from the get go? Rather than random chance life appearing from nowhere and evolving and adapting to survive?
Vinnie accused me of circular reasoning in concluding that the Bible is a work of non-fiction. My reasoning is not at all circular, I felt that I was pretty clear. First, I presume the verity of the Biblical writers. Second, the writers claim that they were inspired by God and they are recording the truth. Conclusion, the Bible is a work of non-fiction.
Slavery is not wrong. Bad slavery is wrong. Many slaves in America before the civil war and after it did not want freed. They knew they had it nice; food, clothing, a roof over their heads, a good master. Likewise in the Bible good slaver is condogned but not bad.
Let's talk darwinism 101. All that crap you just articulated has nothing to do with basic evolution of the species. Do you even have a degree?
I don't mean to sound condescending but maybe this rhetorical question will give you a clue: How do both humans and birds dodge falling objects without knowledge of the mathematical laws of gravity?
If you say there is no reason to believe in theistic evolution, I will agree with you. I find theistic evolution the best way to keep my cherished beliefs without having to go to war against the facts. Theistic evolution is a compromise, certainly, but it's the only way to keep vital faith without resorting to creationism. If someone should convince me that theistic evolution is an untenable position, I will inevitably become a creationist, because full-fledged materialism is for me not an option.
And again, you are basing your views on society. God is not part of human society. He isn't bound by our laws or morals, He created them and He can break them.
Can you be certain that those detained individuals in those pictures [of Nazi death camps] did not do one of the following... sexually enslave children... commit ritual child homicide... preside over the slaughter of innocent eastern European farmers... practice usery... profit from gambling...?
You sound like the evolutionists. They laugh at the creationists who demand that evolution be subject to empirical tests to determine its validity. They laugh because they cannot prove evolution using empirical experiments and all they can do is laugh. I suspect that you are laughing at Berggy because you have no means to disprove that which he says.
What's to say 'God' can do whatever he wants, considering he's able to do everything that is not against his nature? (so no 'can god make a toilet that he couldn't flush himself down it?' type of questions). Tell me some scientific discoveries as a direct result of atheism. Evolution? Woo. How practical.
Try putting the shoe on the other foot someone comes into your family telling you that you should rasie your children how they think is best... what if this preson is wrong and your children end up worse off... Give me an honest answer and you will belive the same thing as me not to interfere
I think its kinda hypocritical that school would teach evolution and not about God, evolution is not a fact its a belief no doctor, scientist ect have any cold hard facts that evolution took place so they have to have faith to believe that, so in a way its a religion, that is teached around in school. at least God is a more intelligent argument I mean the World cannot get up and say well im going to make myself today...
I don't think you're going to have that bold of an attitude while you're standing in a puddle of your own urine [at the final judgement].
He didn't have enough information to come to the correct conclusion, therefore he ought to have concluded the same thing that everyone else concluded. It was the safest bet. And it turned out to be wrong. This is the whole point of Pascal's Wager, if you'll recall. If you're wrong, it's better to be on the safe side.
Prophecies are symbolic. They will be accurately fulfilled, but not literally
... another reason I think its heretical. The RCC wants nothing more than more money. They aren't out to bring anyone to Christ, only to raise finances to fund the Pope's mansion.
Christianity is the only one that passes 'the logic test.' As hard as you may try, I doubt that you can really show the other religions to be very logical at all. Take Islam for example... Wow, who would want to worship THAT god? Oh, and it has both 'love the Jew' and 'slay the infidels' in the same book. We have the Old Testament, aye, with killing in it, but remember that that was judgement upon the tribes of Caanan that was their own fault... Hinduism:.. they can't even decide who to worship!.. Buddhism: Look at it...yeah. Taoism: Doing nothing is the best way to gain oneness with the tao... Wow, 'go with the flow' at its best... Ask any theoretical physicist about entropy, the proven tendency for the universe to go from order to chaos, and you'll see that this tao is a load of cow... Rastafarianism: Black people rule, kill the whities...
[Replying to (paraphrased) 'Unnatural?! Here are some gay animals']At this time are those lesbian monkeys in China making a legal stand to have their marriage recognized so they can obtain tax and other benefits?
Atheists are funny when they become offensive. No doubt about it. Atheists are a whole lot more entertaining when they are emotional, obscene and irrational.
Homosexuals assert that they are 'born' homosexual. If true, this is obviously some sort of defective genetic mutation... Further, since homosexuals, by nature, cannot reproduce, which aids in the survival of the species, why should any rights be granted them period?
Isn't telling a fictional story, something which isn't real, per definition a lie?
But what if you are wrong. I know its practically impossible to prove either way, BUT WHAT IF?
[Replying to 'we SEE gravity']no we don't. we see movements of stars. we assume gravity is causing it. why do you assume that?
The reality is that not only can't scientists prove things 'absolutely,' they can't prove anything period. The selection of one theory as an explanation over another is purely arbitrary.
It would be hard to imagine a more inverted view of reality. *Evolution* (!?) is a compelling explanation for biology? You've got to be kidding. Have you been living in a cave or something?
Europeans in general were singled out, and the reasons are contained in the talmud, 'The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion,' etc.
[On the "Crying" Virgin Mary in Sacramento, 'For men who have been seeing hoaxes like this for years, an explanation is impossibly easy.']
Hoax? You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all the time. Do you think that Christians are morons who will believe everything and anything they are told?
Because sin is a crime, and must be punished. Why is shoplifting illegal? Its a free country isn't it?
Answer me this, if the Bible contradictions represent such a clear proof of its unworthiness, then why is it that scholars on both sides of the fence continue spending entires lives investigating the matter? You don't see anyone spending their life investigating the phlogiston theory or the blood humors theory any more, do you?
Fraid so, it shows that the problem is probably anti-semitism on [Jewish Bible scholar Richard] Friedman's part.
Tell me, you all knowing atheist non creationists, how did the primordial soup decide what an eye would look like or how it should function or an ear or a nose?
How did the primordial soup determine that there should be millions of different species of fish, fowl and mammal etc? and what they should look like, act, behave, build nests etc. etc. etc.?
How did just two microscopic thingamajigs get together and say, Hey, we need to make an elephant! Yes, and this is how it should look. Let's give it huge ears, eyes, a trunk for a nose, tusks etc.? Then two other microscopic thingamajigs also got together and decided that there needs to be monkeys. Then to more and this went of until there were millions of pairings of two thingamajigs that each decided to make an entirely separate animal.
What you in fact are doing is deifying the primordial soup. Maybe you atheists should worship pond skum?
Delusion is believing in something in the face of contrary evidence...all the evidence shows us that what the current evidence shows is not the actual truth, it also shows us that an absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, and that there are many things that are true that there is no evidence for....yet atheists do not believe these things anyway....
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Ah, speaking in tongues. Glossolalia. "Strings of meaningless syllables made up of sounds taken from those familiar to the speaker and put together more or less haphazardly".
For the millions of other Christians babbeling nonsense and deceiving themselves - yes. But I claim to be perhaps the only Christian who can speak a proper language I don't understand. Listen to it at http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/TongueSpeaker
[Arguing against genetic algorithms and evolution]
Think about it for a minute: Software does not exist on the computer, but rather in the minds of software engineers.
(On 14-16 year olds getting pregnant)
It is beneficial for dumb fucks to be forced to live with the consequences of their dumb fuckery.
If I were an atheist...
I'd live a life of debauchery and then commit suicide.
You are the Professer. In your knowledge of the hand/biology/medicine what is a specific gain from an evolutionary premise that has progressed the hand medicine.
Of coarse I think there has been nothing and evolution has just hitched a ride on actual biologists achievments.
Well, let me ask you a question.
If there really is no evidence for creationism, why would creationists insist there is? They can find evidences of the biblical flood and other such Bible claims, but why do they? Could it be because there is evidence? If there was ABSOLUTELY NONE, why do they make good cases about the age of fossils and such things?
[Did any part of "Internet Infidels" tip you off that "godliness" might not be an important standard of behavior here?]
thats no reason not to be godly
Hello Atheists, I am inclined to tolerate you people and must say that atheism is not inherently offensive to me.