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discombobulated #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[In response to allegations of people altering the Bible]

Theres no doubt in my mind that God would not let his word be altered in any way he did not want it to be. If Sodam and Gomorah were struck dead just 4 lying, then why can't some monk be struck dead?

dseavingeyez #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

in this week's weekly world news it had an article about how a researcher in rome has found Jesus's sandals and i also heard on k-love that they have found the ark of the covenant, but also in this issue it talks about how satan has been prank calling people's home and how all this has caused lots of suicides around the world. what do you make of all this?

Livin'4Christ #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Absolutely brilliant! Resort to the teachings of a Bahai [<a href="http://www.bahai.org/">another religion</a>]. Doesn't truth mean anything to you or are you just justify your sinful lifestyle. Well I tell ya, your going to get a big fucking surprise when your burning in hell. You wont be asking Dave [the Bahá'í  poster] any more questions then will ya?

everybody knows my name #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

I'm tired of people misrepresenting Christianity. We do not believe that God sends people to hell for being nonbelievers. We believe that the only way to avoid being justly condemned is to acknowledge our sinful nature and take advantage of the salvation that Jesus willingly provided.

hercules1 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

There is nothing scientific about evolution but a lot of high school and college textbooks attempt to indoctrinate young people into believing they are just the product of a "chance" occurrence and apes and humans came from a "common ancestor." No wonder young people all over this nation are killing each other left and right.

Amessenjah #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Witchcraft is not of the Lord. The power comes from energy that is creating and given by demonic spirits. These demonic spirits all have a rank, a purpose, and a master. Their master is Satan. Satan is very pleased if a person decides to tap into the powers of witchcraft. He may use those powers that the person calls upon to show them supernatural things;(deja-vu feelings, paranormal happenings, coincidences, superstitious feelings) These demonic spirits may take the form of animals, the animals may act a certain way that would make a person believe that they had power over that animal or even a human. Withcraft in my opinion quickly turns into a practice of vampirism. This vampirism that I am speaking of is merely spiritual. It is were people feed off the thoughts of one another in order to become more powerful. This really takes effect when the person has sex with the other, essentially they become one spiritually, so the energy or power is increased every time you sleep with a different person. I may be getting off the subject of witchcraft and into the subject of Hallucinogenic drug cults, but oh well. To me it is all the same. These behaviors and thought processes are highly addictive and can cause very bad emotional and physical problems. A person could have insomnia, lose a lot of weight, have psychotic episodes, become suicidal, put distant between themselves and family, lose touch with reality and sense of responsibility. This is merely my personaly experience and my personal reality. I do believe that it is a universal reality though. I believe that satan uses these same "deceiving realities" to keep people away from God and eventually destroy them.

inverter #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

But even you should be able to understand that at the time people lived that long, there was no cancer, there was no polution, no cfc's, no unnatural foods, etc..
The reason is because there was so few people and technology couldn't create polution.
Well, anyway if you believe the Bible you would know that sin created bad genetics and bad health. Ever since the fall of man we have been slowely dying.

hayden #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

I think the slow death penalty should be instated. First off you are executed in the manner that you committed the crime. If the bodies aren't found and the style of murder is unknown, then I think the capitol murderer should be dipped in honey and red fire ants should be poured all over his/her body. I am not joking..I am not a gimmick..I am sick of liberals caudling to the criminals and appeasing them because they are scared. I find no reason in the Bible where the death penalty is prohibited. It was part of the old law, So it is still usable today.

BurningSon #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

No, He used it to try and get our attention. If we don't turn back to Him, trouble will continue to come. Wouldn't you get upset with someone who didn't listen to you after you gave them so many warnings? Try having a whole country not listen to you and ignore you for a long time. You will try and get their attention.

asbesttes #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

1 ) ok ill get his name. Hitler also killed on the basis of evolution so theres one. The founder of planed parent hood(once a nazi scientist) was a devout evolutionist. Theres tons! 2) Where does it say its not ok? What if i dont care about surviving? We all die dont we? Its my life not yours. What are u saying evolutionist have laws like the ten commandments? That some supernatural force will act on me if i dont obey those rules? Isnt that objecting to your argument? 3) They had evolution in schools and were strictly taught it was truth. People throughout histroy who did not have Gods words (middle ages, today etc) Raped murdered scammed whatever. What would it do if god taught lizards were green? Well that obvious and does not do anything for your argument. If u think u can have god with atheism ur contradicting urself and must not have a clear understanding of the english language.

hayden #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

All of the laws you said here have blaring moral foundations. No one wants to get cheated out of money. And the fishing license thing isn't just for money. It regulates the fishing laws and keeps track of whose fishing so that everybody can't just go out and hook 800 fish a day and that we perserve certain species. It all has morals weather it be about money or not. And those goofy laws you talked about even had morals too. Maybe walking across the street on your hands poses a serious threat in that town.

Livin'4Christ #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Hi folks, today I'm going to act as the devils advocate. Now, many people are aware God sends some people to hell. But why is that? Even worse, God uses some people and sends them to hell so He can achieve His objective. Lets take a look at a few examples. Lucifer - The devil, satan. This angel was made beautiful, yet God made Him evil on purpose so we could have free-will. Now this poor young fellow will burn in hell for all eternity through no fault of his own. That's unless he had free-will of course and decided to fight against God, but... I highly doubt it. Judas Iscariot - Jesus' friend and disciple. This young man hung himself and had his guts spilled out as punishment for doing Gods will. Most likely he is burning in hell for all eternity, again, through no fault of his own. The Jews - These people crucified Jesus and will most certainly burn in hell forever. Yet, if they had not done this then we'd have no chance of salvation. So God purposely blinded their eyes from the truth so He could achieve His objective. Why God? Why?

WarriorOfJah #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

what does the Bible say about pro wrestling like wwe other whys nown as wwf because my bro loves it beyond all possible human beleif and when i asked him which site is better , www.bible.com or www.wwe.com, it took him a while to answer so i thought that was a bit stupid. so what im asking is wwf against the bible and if u could give a link so my bro dont pull a hissy fit if it is thanx and this will solve a lot of problems thanx again

inverter #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Noah lived to be 950 (Genesis 9:29). And Methusela lived into his 900's also. Read your Bible. Before the flood men use to live very very long times. After the flood the death age got younger and younger. Again you have no idea how long people lived back then because you believe man and not God, your creator.

hayden #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Like I said we are not tied down by it [the Old Covenant (Levitical laws)], but If it was ok back then then it is ok now...We abide by the laws of our land. We don't kill gay people because it isn't in our law, we eat pork because it is ok in our law.

hercules1 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Well lets look at the causes of cancer. Smoking is one. Skin cancer is another. A lot of cancer is caused by harsh chemicals and radiation. Its caused by what you eat and drink. Smoking- man made killer. Skin cancer- We had what was called an ozone layer, man has destroyed it. Chemicals and radiation. Manmade killers which are put inot food and what not. As far as I know and dont quote me because I dont profees to have all the answers, but if anyone does get cancer, it is our own fault. We decided to modify what God gave us and its killing us. I'n not saying that we deserve to get cancer, it is sad that it spreads and some people do get cancer through no fault of their own. The only way to prevent cancer was to not modify everything and live as nature intended. This problem started a looong time ago.

Tarmac #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

If I abandon a Christian worldview, I see no plausible reason - other than purely selfish reasons - to be a Moral person. In fact, [and I know this will be contraversial] but I believe that many of these crimes are strictly due to a lack of the Christian worldview, although, paradoxically I find that many Christians [?] engage is such activities. If Christianity is proven false, do what you wanna do, as long as you come out alive and on top, Who cares... pure Hedonism is championed. Does that answer your question?

punkbassist4God #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

The WTC Bombers MOTIVATION may have been Allah, but their cause was to kill Americans for the Taliban. They CHOSE death. Suicide in the name of Allah does not equal martrydom. Christians were KILLED by OTHERS for what they believe. There is a very big difference.

Jiggles #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Good does not exist? Then they have no right in complaining about being persecuted. They have no right in combating being burned at the stake by theists, because we all know that if there is no good, it does not matter what we do." "I am attempting to get the discussion of why people choose to be athiests. I want an honest discussion as to why people choose athiesm. I do not want a shallow, God does not exist answer either. Tell me what this belief has going for it? What makes it better then theism? More civilized and scientific then theism? How does it benefit society? How does it benefit psychology?

Livin'4Christ #fundie #homophobia #sexist bbs.payableondeath.com

People say it's okay to be a Wiccan, Buddhist, Muslim or whatever but it must be made clear God hates these false religions (if they are in fact false) and He'd like to see them eradicated. Homosexuality is the killer. Priests, pastors, politicians etc are decieving God's little children into thing it's okay to be gay. The world has come to largely accept homosexuals in this world and the gay movement is stronger than ever... God hates it all. People think female pastors are a welcome but God says they're not (debatable). Many don't believe in capital punishment even though God created it. Pacifists and anti-war (defence) Christians are just confused. Is there a passage in the Bible that says we're to conform to social beliefs or don't people give a shit about the truth? Why so weak?

khazul #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

The only problem with the Bible being stories and myth or whatnot is that it would be very unique. I mean, all of it's major players ahve huge falws with them. Look at David. Great guy, man after God's own heart. Adulturer and murderer. He's not the perfect heroe like heroes should be. The Bible is all too true in its depiction of men.

punkbassist4God #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Do you honestly think that you are the original in raising these questions? If the Bible could be proven false/and or/inaccurate, then Christianity wouldn't have survived 2000 years of persecution. People aren't willling to be burned alive and cut in half for lies. The only way that I see anyone could stand by their beliefs through all this because a loving God changed their lives through a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.

Jiggles #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

No, they just spouted some Athiest dogma, which has very little backing and were insulting. AKA, if you question myths, why don't you question your own? Again, I reiterate, what evidence is there that Atheism is correct or the truth? I would like to comment that for every time someone mentions the Spanish Inquisition, I will reply with Pol Pot, 2 million people, Stalin, millions of people, Mao Se-dong, millions of people.

punkrocker71 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

while the earth was young it was covered with water. the flood happened while the earth was young. my source was the discovery channel. and everybody knows thats what scientists think anyways. thats why there are so many expaditions to go look for lost ships of the flood and stuff like that."

"yes i do admit that the colarado river does do erosion to the canyon but i and many others believe that the river couldnt have eroded that much i 6,000 years. and the canyon is very high. the river was not that deep at one time to have washed out the top and bottom of the canyon. it would have only eroded the bottom."

"whatever. continental drift. its hard to believe thats how all these fossils of things that were way at the bottom of the ocean have been found up there. but believe what you want. i dont care.

hercules1 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

How is it that God is cruel. who is it that does wrong, us or him. Suppose you mum said dont eat the cookie from the cookie jar. Would you do it, probably. So you go and do it and get punished [by being tortured in hell for eternity].

Livin'4Christ #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

What do people think about this? As most know there is this lady in Nigeria who has been ordered to be stoned to death for having a child out of wedlock. This has caused a significant outburst from western nations worldwide arguing the ruling is inhumane, uncivilised and breaches basic human rights. Although I find decision to be somewhat "harsh" this lady bought about her own judgement. In Northern Nigeria where the sha'riah is the law, it is a well known offence to commit adultery and although the stoning will be the first time it's practised in the region the Qu'ran makes it clear it is a capital offence. So although she knew her actions might lead to her death she took the risk anyway and now under shar'iah law she is going to be punished for it. I respect the human rights groups but I really don't think they understand religion at all and are only preventing justice before Allah or God taking place. From a Christian perspective I don't necessarily think it's wrong as well. When Jesus was preaching some Jews bought him a woman guilty of adultery and asked if the men condemned her. She said no so Jesus didn't condemn her neither. However, the men in Nigeria do condemn her so it seems likely she is worthy of her death. If you ask me, I think Jesus would urge compassion towards the lady and she shouldn't be stoned to death however establishing a worldwide crusade to prevent this stoning she bought upon herself shows a lack of respect for religion.

CofTheForeverTribe #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

I don't mean to sound offensive, but whoever started this argment about Noah's ark did not do much research.

Otherwise you would realize that durng orld ar II, the United States build a ship according to the measurement of Noah's ark and it was one bad baby. No one wanted to meswith that joker.

Now a far as species go, I don;t know how many species they say there are today. Maybe they do say 6 million or 30 million. I can tell you that the apportionment of the number of species has been determined by Evolutionary THEORY and is thus not a provable fact. There way of defining species does not have to be ds way of definig species. I can tell you this as well, because of evolutionary THEORY the nuber of species has increased. Why because we have for it to do so. Of course not, but rather it fits well into the model of evolution.

findit aazing hw ou accus Christians of gong close-mided and on a set worldview whn youyourself do exactly the same.

Livin'4Christ #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

I think hanging around with non-religious people is doing a disservice to God. However, I like my friends and since I don't have any Christian friends then I'm not going to become a loner for the sake of my religion. I mean I would, but I really think God wants all of us to be happy. Besides, Christian boys and girls wouldn't like me. Their mummies wouldn't let them hang out with me cause I'd be a bad influence on them. Anyway, the Bible says not to associate with non-believers. Although my friends aren't religious they still believe in God and Jesus, therefore I reckon God would think it's okay, even if all we do is talk about sex. I wouldn't be friends with atheists though, those people are bad.

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