Also, I know He is real because I know that demonic spirits are real. My grandmoter lived alone, and had been messing with things that alowed her to be a victim to demonic spirits. She was up on a stool once, the house was empty, and someone pushed her. Now, that house was empty save for her. And she saw and heard no one. No one could have escaped that fast. That was a demonic spirit pushing her off the stool trying to kill her. I know they are real.
I can't see the possiblity for so many perfect things... Our food chain, nutrition, reproduction, atmosphere, the placement of the stars that we can have calendars and clocks, the waves in the ocean. That the trees 'breath' the opposite as we do so we continue to live. That the sun is the perfect distance from us - so we don't freeze over or burn up. -->That the moon covers the sun for the right amount of time for us to get rest.<-- The list goes on and on. I don't see how we could NOT believe it is for a reason.
1) there is no other way that this earth could of come into being without a creator
2)evolutionist's will tell you the earth just appeared (now dosent that sound stupid?) therefor it must of been created
3)God appointed peole to wright his instructions and love letters to us
4)there is evidence that said stuff like Moses and people did exist
5) the book is like 2000 years old and it still predicts whats happening today
6)man was designed with free will and God sent his son to die for our human mistakes
and just a small tidbit in Genesis when Adam was created from dirt God wanted him to have a partner so he put Adam into a deep sleep and removed a part of his rib bone and made Women a.k.a Eve and now to this day all men have one less rib bone than girls.
Actually, recent scientific evidence points more to Intelligent Design.
As for Darwin's Theory of Macroevolution, it HAS been proved WRONG. Now, Microevolution, the evolution we see taking place in everything life (eg. within a species for example, genetic changes down a generation) is everywhere around us. The Bible and Microevolution geld perfectly into each nothing, nothing wrong with that. The reason why so many Christians are against Macroevolution is because Darwin was saying that ALL animals came from the SAME ancestors (humans, monkeys and fruitflies are all linked), and that natural selection ALONE created us, hence putting God out of a job. However, he was wrong.
According to Darwin's theory, nature makes no big changes. He had no evidence but he was positive that future fossil finds would prove his theory. Ideally, fossil record should how a whole string a fossils from waaaayyyy back with minimal changes every few decades (since his theory of natural selection meant no major changes). HOWEVER, many discoveries later till the present day, the fossil record instead shows an incredible phenomenon (known as the Cambrian Explosion) that can't really be scientifically explained. There is no long string of fossils that leads to modern day, instead, in a short span of time (short relative to the millenia that earth has been around of course) EVERY major species (the group they belong to that is) just sprang up! And this is not due to any gap in the fossil record at all, for there are fossils found all along the timeline.
Conclusion: The fossil record disproves Darwin's theory.
In fact, there is NO evidence for the theory at all. I know many say 'of course, it's just a theory, no one says it actually FACT' but the fact is in schools worldwide Darwin's theory is being taught as a fact. All the pieces of evidence used to support his theory have been disproved too. For example, the pictures of Haeckel's embryos were faked. There is NO 'Java man' or caveman findings that show early Man was stooped and ape-like, since there were NO fossils to proof that. The supposed 'Java Man fossils' were just one skullcap, one thighbone and 3 teeth. The skullcap didn't belong with the femur either. And the skullcap was exactly the same as that of modern man.
Contrary to what many are saying about how Creationists are believing lies in favour of God, for the past half of a CENTURY is has been atheist scientists who are grappling at straws to avoid the theistic truth behind the whole matter.
All that said, anyone have any conclusive evidence to bring up for Darwin? That hasn't already been disproved, exposed as false or been countered that is.
It's common knowledge among White Men that blonde hair is their favorite... a true symbol of the White Race.
So why date an asian or mexican?
It doesn't make any sense.
Okay, science is proven?! Oh, come now! If I show you a pen. I ask you what color it is. Can you PROVE that it is that color???? No, you CAN'T PROVE it
WHEN THE TOPIC IS GOD.. I DON'T GO ON THE LOGICAL THING..
Sorry....
Constant ignorance just angers me so much...
And belonging to a religion doesn't mean you have to be nice.
Bhuddists kill everyone because "Their God told them to."
How do you know what you have "learned" is right? What you "learned" could easily be falsehood. I have an a priori knowledge that all that I know from this particular source (The Church) must be true, for the very Author of creation hath so gauranteed it.
Yet, from other sources, where is your gaurantee that you are not adopting error, and adopting it soley because it is pleasing to your own ears?
You believe that which you prefer to believe. I believe that which is highly inconvenient for me to believe, even that which condemns my own actions, not because I desire to believe it, but because I have been threatened with eternal damnation by that Same God who created us if I do not believe it.
i don't believe in genetics. people come from Heaven and god made them perfect
One sunny sunday afternoon a church was just gettign settled for service when two men walked in clad head to to in black and wearing ski masks. They both held automatic weapons at the ready. One remained by the exit in the back of the church and the other went up to the pulpit. "Anyone willing to take a bullet for Christ kindly remain seated," he yelled at the congregation, "the rest of you will be free to go."
there was an imense scraping of chairs and all but about a dozen people filed out of the church. The man at the front gestured to those who remained. "All of you come up to the front please." when they were seated at the front pew directly in front of the black clad man. he took off his mask. "Aright Father," the man said, turning to the priest. "i've cleared out the hipocrites please continue with the service." the two men with the guns sat down to listen.
ok i know the ending is kinda lame but it gets the point accross. I got this in an email and i was wondering if any one else thinks this is actualy a good idea.
Athiests are so unintelligent. The bible is clear proof of God's existence.
[The original Poster had an explanation on how the word phobia also means aversion, meaning homophobia is more than just fear of homosexuals, in which the Oxford English Dictionary and
Merriam-Webster were quoted]
If that's true (which it's not, just more of the gay agenda crap), then I'm happy to be a bigot compared to what you are.
Heaven Raiser: i do wat the bible says
Response by another poster: You don't shave?! You don't eat seafood?! You don't wear clothes that are made from more than two fabrics?
HeavenRaiser: how you get that from the bible? seriously it says don't have the sides of your hair and the tips of your beard, I get my barber to do it for me, it says not to wear cloths made of two materials cotton and polyester are the same material, fabric
I hate racist, proud niggers with a passion, Fuck you al sharpton!!!
I am so sick and tired of living in a nation being taken over by stupid, smelly, ugly, wetbacks!!! I have never met a good one in my life. They feel that they can just take over wherever they go, and have more kids than they can handle. Then they take the jobs that used to go to people just starting out so they could make money, AMERICAN kids!!!
I want to find a way to start a petition to get Bush (even though I can't stand the bastard, he is useful) and get all illegal Mexicans and their families, even if their children were born here, sent back to Mexico!
You can call me a bitch, or a racist, I know I'm not the only one who feels this way.
[Title: the speration of church and sate]
should the US at its court house display the ten comandment now i belive it should though not applying to everyone but yeah our country is founded apon that and honestly with out them our society would crumble please post you opinions and please dont bother others for thier opinions
Sarwanism+Evolution=Theoretical Religion
Creationism&Intelligiant Design= Truthful Religion
Science=Knowledge
Religion=Lies
Truth=True Science
People can decide to believe Evolution just as well as Christianity so they both must be religion, however only one can be truth...
Creationism has only one hole in it, where did the creator come from...
Evolution has many holes, one is what was it's creator thinking when he said "i am related to a banana and it's tree...
how come, if "there have been billions and billions of years," we're only in the year 2007?
["Just because a website doesn't run around screaming bloody baby-murder doesn't mean it's biased."]
No, actually, that WOULD mean it's biased.
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Why, what a COINKYDINK! Afghanistan right next door to the east, Iraq right next door to the west. The TWO countries the US invaded.
The neocons who control Washington wanted and planned to invade Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran(in that order) even before they took office in 2001(it just required, in their words "A Catalyzing and Catastrophic event, like a new pearl harbor" to get their wishes)
I Do Believe there's an after life because it's in the bible and the bible is god's words so there fore. The Bible is my proof
That leads into a little trick i devised to refute evolution.
What are the odds that a ticghtly compacted particle containign all the matter in the universe could be made... pretty slim right? now what are the odds of it randomly occouring... even smaller right? now tell me the odds of it forming from nothing. You cant make nothing from nothing so that is a 0.0 repeating % chance
Ok in a new scenario its estimated all humans combined have less than 3% of all knowlede to be had. What are the odds that a god could be somwhere in that 97% of knowledge? it isn't impossable but because the person reading may be an atheist lets make it 0.000...0001
we all know 1 hextillianth of a percent is infinitly more than 0 right?
thus we know that the odds of ther ebeing a god are infinitly greater than there not being 1.
Um, you all know that Darwin said on his death bed that atheism was just a theory of his, right?
Oh, and God Rules!
Ok, retards. Time to put this inot views you can understand. Abortion is murder, its killing an innocent child. When somebody kills a pregnant woman its double murder, but when its "abortion" its not called murder at all! You know what? You have no idea what your doing, you go in, kill the fetus, get it takin out of you, and you leave the fuckin shithole ready to fuck and kill another one of God's precious creations! Its murder and its wrong. Send the kid to an adoption center. Also, the only reason a black child is less likely to be adopted is because Americans are FUCKING RACISTS!
(And then, after several posts from other people in the thread)
I just read the replys you guys posted. Your all fucked up, go die, see you in hell. Its a child, you may think it isn't, but it is. Its murder and your fucked in the head if you think it isn't. It pre-planned so its 1st degree (I'm pretty sure). I know your Americans and I find that adorable but pull your head out of your ass and that penis out of your cunt.
I have a question for you guys: Do you consider Catholics to be Christian?
I know a lot of you said "yes," but actually, you're wrong. Catholics aren't Christian. They claim to be, but they worship the virgin Mary, and not Jesus or God. Also, they dance pagan dances around that huge hat the pope has, when the Bible says that nobody should keep idols.
If you have any more questions, please direct them to me and I will be happy to direct you to the way of reason and light. True Christianity comes from your heart and Jesus, not Pope mobiles and bread cookies.
Please save your souls before it's too late.
[A fundie's comment to another, more informed Christian]
FUCK YOU GO TO HELL I HOPE UR GOD SMIGHTS U "SMIGHT" UR AN INSENSITIVE PRICK AND U DON'T RESPECT OUR BELIEFS ONE OF THESE DAYS UR GONNA DIE AND NOONE WILL CARE CAUSE UR A PRIC
I call Indians (the red ones) unemployed assholes.
There are way too many Indians around that do no work, and leech off of welfare and enjoy the fact that they don't have to pay taxes, just because they whine about how their "land" was wrongfully stolen from them and how their customs were destroyed, despite the fact that We made their life infinately better.
(huzzah, an agnostic fundie!)
hell, i can prove that atheists believe in God. to deny something exists, you must first acknowledge its existence. atheist, opposite of theist. think on that one for a little while
(note:Fundie try to use talkOrigins to prove creationism. O__O)
<a href="http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/polystrate/whale.html" target="_blank">http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/polystrate/whale.html</a>
if you read this you find that the Flood was real.That weve always been as we have been.it was done quickly because its not decayed and its on its tail.Darwin was saying that stronger traits make a better animal.end of story mutation is not good so dont give me that .He wanted to be a priest and i dont think he wanted to be an antichrist so he wasn't trying to make evolution the people after him who have been sucking helium did itour world is deterating.oh,now i remeber.weve all have had a helium ballon(personally i think evolutionist have been sucking in helium)we alll know that its a very slippery gas theres some deposits in the stuff that makes granite the rock.if its very slippery why is it still in there maybe the earth is a lot younger
Trying to say that humans evolved from apes is like saying the Empire State Building just grew out of the ground. Evolution is a crack-up that Darwin just made up to get attention
Jesus is not a Jew. Jesus was Jewish.
Yes he does. I will pray for all you over sexual hell bastards until heavens flames of redemption consumes this heathenish world.
You will regret your sins once you see the sky break open and blood flows through it like a gapping wound.
I thank god for my clairvoyance.
This topic isn't going to be as noobish as you perhaps thought.
Now, gays.
I will admit that I am somewhat of a homophobe.
The Lord says that it's wrong, I shall believe.
But this is a different argument, because not all people believe in the Good Lord, and will be punished in the end.
It's just not darn natural.
INSERT TAB A INTO SLOT B.
Plop, out comes the baby.
That's how it was made to be.
There is a reson women don't have penises, and men don't have vaginas.
They were not meant to have sex.
Sex naturally goes along with love.
Sodomy is a sin, and "Cockfighting" has no point.
And what the heck do women do?
Rub up on each other?
Wow, how romantic.
It's just that simple: gays were not meant to be.
I don't know why they don't concider it a mental disease anymore.
It is.
If you like the same sex, there is something wrong with you in your brain.
They're like retarded people.
Next thing you know, people will be accepting incest and beastiality.
But even incest is better than homosexuality.
Because then, they can still procreate.
That's the way it was meant to be.
so ur a muslim? thats dumb.
WHITE PEOPLE UNITE!
Total Mongrelization the Goal. The final end result of mass third-world immigration into the U.S. will be the total mongrelization and destruction of the White Race and thereby giving the Jew the insurance for all time to come that the surviving stupid, mongrelized herd will never have either the leadership or the intelligence to ever again challenge his unlimited control. The White Race will be gone, and the remaining brown "Melting Pot" (into which the Jews do not mix) will be dumb, servile, easily enslaved, and kept in eternal bondage. The Jew knows very well that as long as the White Race remains pure, there is always the danger that a sleeping giant can awaken, turn on him, and destroy him.
[Delicious irony]
Mormans and JW's aren't Chrisitian, the believe that God is an alian, or the Jesus and Satan are brothers. They'er controling and view other Christians as non-belivers.
During the start of the whole Anti-Freemason trend, a judge ruled a man as an incompetent witness because he was an athiest.
And I almost agree, you'd have to be atleast a little bit mentally incompetent to not believe in SOMETHING. I mean the whole need to worship something is ingrained in the human psyche. To disbelieve is just petty and contrary.
imho
So, inregards to [atheists] being a distrusted minority, I think thats nonsense, they don't ever get together and meet and discuss their common idiocy. But I could do well with a lot less of those people.
As of the strong/weak thing. Weak athiests are just agnostics in my opinion, its sad they lack faith, but atleast they don't try to deny it. Thats the real idiocy, the denial.
[Replying to 'as for not seeing evolution it takes several million years... incase you missed that memo...']
several million years for a monkey to turn into a man. oh wait thats right. monkeys dont live several million years.
And if macro evolution was true, women would have 3 arms by now.
Why is it that our greatest minds today, in the field, have no idea how to combine iron and chlorine? And yet, Dr. Carl Baugh, Creation Evidence Muesem in Texas, and his colleages have discoverd a hammer in the same fossil layer with dinosaur fossils. This hammer has a wedge in it to keep the head of the hammer attached to it's handle. What is most mind-boggling about this hammer is that it's iron and chlorine combined. They had the knowledge to combine iron and chlorine. Why don't we?
But if you are talking the big bang creating all life and all that stuff. It's not possible. Becuase if you change one thing on tiny in signifigant 1 to a 0 in our genetic code or in the genetic code of the earth water could turn to lava. or soil could turn to solid rock, and the earth would be uninhabitable.
Christianity makes perfect sense, there is not a single flaw. That is why I'm curious why you kids feel the constant need to try and prove something about it and yet never succeed.
