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RichardT #fundie christianforums.com

God is Love
Without God , there is only hate. I can't really explain it now.. But I know it to be true..

If there was no God , the human race would have died out long before, because there is no love without God. God and Love are one. Without God , there would be no law , only anarchy.

Without God , only the fittests survive, and the fittests control the newbies....

lambslove #fundie christianforums.com

[From a YEC]

I think with all the energy being used up on the creationism vs evolution argument, there can only be one thing behind it all: satan. Satan has got us spinning our wheels on debating how we came to be and that's stopping us from doing really fruitful things with our time and energy.

Little Nipper #fundie christianforums.com

Who are you? What have you created from NOTHING? What universe do you hold together? Who did you die and rise again for?
READ JOB chapters 38 & 39 and add verses 1 & 2 of chapter 40. Speak to me not of vain or little. YOU KNOW NOT WHAT YOU SAY. Do not tempt the hand of GOD for HE is not mocked. I do NOT riot against you. I do NOT seek to harm you. I warn you . My LORD GOD can take care of HIMSELF.

whoisofthelord #fundie christianforums.com

Styles in themselves can also be good or bad. Take away the lyrics, from a Christian or Secular rock band and you have a rock rythym/beat. If you listened to just a rock rythym/beat what do you hear? You hear rock. That's all you hear - is rock. Some people would say that just hearing a rock beat by itself is neither immoral or moral. They would say it's ahmoral, and it becomes good or bad based on the lyrics. But when the rock music came into the scene in the 50's it adapted this beat. No other genre has this same beat (normally called an "off-beat" with the stronger beats on the 2nd and 4th in a 4/4 measure) except for blues, jazz, and some others. No other genre has this same style of rythym. And this rythym, even by itself, I would say is immoral. This rythym IS rock. And rock IS associated to all sorts of immorality. This same immorality cannot be said for classical music - which is not just music during the 1700's, but music that has the stronger beats on the 1st and 3rd beats of a 4/4 measure, or to some: traditional music.

AlHannah #fundie christianforums.com

As a fellow Christian I don't think it is appropriate that you even mention the name of another god, let alone say you like him, Arunma.
"Thou shalt have no other gods before me" — "for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God —"
I think you may evoke God's jealousy here Arunma. It's just my opinion, but I would not do that.

cougtpt1 #fundie christianforums.com

Now you are making yourself sound stupid. Creationism was science until Darwin. It is the evolutionists that ahve set out to prove creationism wrong. THEY HAVE YET TO DO IT!!! Evolutionist claim to prove evolution but they can not disprove creation. Therefore how can Creationism be a movement to counter the effects of evolution??

Merlin #fundie christianforums.com

[Response to someone talking about feelings and culture surrounding the context of a passage of scripture, in order to attain an alternative interpretation of it]

Depending on 'feelings' can be unreliable.
It can lead you here and there, depending on how manipulative a TV or movie script is.

Catholicism #fundie christianforums.com

[Responding to: "It's been about a month since 7-year-old Nixmary Brown was brutally murdered by her mother's boyfriend, Cesar Rodriguez, in a small NY apartment. Police say she weighed a mere 36 pounds at the time of her death and showed signs of chronic severe abuse. Police also found a chair with rope tied to it, suggesting that Nixmary was often restrained, as well as evidence that she was forced to use a pet litterbox as the only means to relieve herself. Police say she was severely beaten and repeatedly held underwater in a bathtub before being dealt a severe blow to the head which finally caused her death.

For the many Christians who often say that God regularly helps them and has intervened in their lives when they needed it most, how do you reconcile what God has done for you with what he didn't do for Nixmary Brown? Why didn't he help an innocent child who desperately needed it?"]

How do you know he didn't help her?

mallowpuff #fundie christianforums.com

You know I used to think severe bad weather was due to God's judgement on countries. I used to think the countries that flooded a lot kind of were always non-Christan countires.

But I'm reading some new stuff where a comment by Pentagon a decade ago that they would own the weather. Nuclear and other undeground devices can set off tsunami tidal waves. Makes you wonder about all those other earthquakes. Texe Marrs examines the reaons why earth's weather seems to be going haywire. He asks 'Are new technologies secretly being used to manipulat extreme weather and use it as a miltiary and psycholgocial warfare tool agianst nations and peoples?"

I know it all sounds to far fetched, but it makes you wonder.

Croc #fundie christianforums.com

Oil is not a fossil fuel

It should be common sense but somehow this lie just keeps going on and on. What happens to trees and plants when they die? Do they get buried thousands of feet underground near the earths core and become smashed into oil? No they actually decay right on the surface of the earth and turn right back into dirt. Dirt is made up of decayed animal and plant remains but oil is not.

Ginny #fundie christianforums.com

A non believers take on understanding and a saved person's take on understanding are two different things. Because if a non-believer truly understood what the Bible meant, they wouldn't be a non-believer.

ThaiDuykhng #fundie christianforums.com

[the Big Bang is the scientific theory that the Universe emerged from an enormously dense and hot state about 13.7 billion years ago]

what does dense mean? does it mean matter existed there? if so where did these matter come from? what is heat?("hot") where does it come from?how did energy came into being? You can't created something out of nothing, only God can do it.If you answer "no" to the 2nd question. then why nothing should bang and how nothing banged? When they solved it, I guess it's God or dusts created it. it's pure religion.Text book teaches after some dust went into the core, it starts spinning and eject everything. that should nullify all your comments. when you fall off a spinning merry-go-around you always spin the same direction of the merry-go-around. if you don't agree with this then tell me why it should bang at all.

CoinGeek #fundie christianforums.com

['How would you react if your child came home from the library or bookshop with the sacred texts of a Faith other than your own?']

*Take the books back
*Cancel his library card.
*Ground him.

In that order. Kids are far, far too likely to beleive what they read in these pagan texts to allow them to be exposed to them.

Deren #fundie christianforums.com

['There's a good reason why all civilized nations on this planet have long since ceased to employ torture as a means of punishment. It is an abomination, a horrible crime in itself.']

But, the basis for eternal punishment is not predicated on the so-called "civilized nations." And isn't that a great thing!!

whitestar #fundie christianforums.com

Did you all know you are being watched? This thread read by a another board that copies and paste quotes from Christian boards to their site to make fun of the members on here?

Scroll down just a little way to see a quote from a user on this thread: http://www.fstdt.com/

Off course they mostly go after 'fundies'...meaning conversative Christians to make fun of...apparently they have no life to be spending so much time doing this...its really stupid.

Just thought I would let you know.

Dragons87 #fundie christianforums.com

['Why would God allow eight million children to be born each year with a serious genetic birth defect.']

Perhaps the parents will be shocked into questioning the meaning of life, which could ultimately lead them to become Christians?

Maybe the baby is abandoned, and dies as a result of negligence. Society would be appalled by this and pressure the government for better social services, thus benefitting other people?

shinbits #fundie christianforums.com

Women are also just as wicked, but are usually to scared to act on it. Like all the women who act in porn and do depraved things, and let depraved things be done to them.
Don't get me wrong, womanhood seems to have some extra special, God-given good sense. But they think of, do, and enjoy many depraved things.

savior4life #fundie christianforums.com

The gaming industry has no morals

My son was talking to one of his friends over our supper last night. Normally I wouldnt listen twice when they talk over video games but this caught my eye. They talked about a game that had guns, violence and the last battle of humanity. I didnt get upset until my son mentioned the Satan and God would both be in the game and you can do things for them. Yes you can WORK for SATAN and kill ANGELS.

I asked him the information of the game and where he got it from.

Blackgaurd Game

kaoswar.com is the homepage. I have contacted the ESRB about this and we are in hopes to get them appealed.

According to my son this company will be having angels devils and the human race as a playable avatar and KILLING each other. KILLING angels. How could the gaming industry let this happen? is there nobody there with faith?

RichardT #fundie christianforums.com

I'm starting to think that all religions are false , and that there is no point to anything... If YEC isn't true , than christianity isn't true , and if christianity isn't true , than nothing is..

Therefore YEC must be true , or else i'm living at fault

RichardT #fundie christianforums.com

"Who am I?"
"Where did I come from?"
"Why am I here?"
"Where do I go when I die?"

If you were to ask an evolutionist , the answers to these questions are obvious. When people teach these to students , and if these students believe it , many of them would obviously think of suicide , mass killings , become like Hitler , etc...

NarrowPathPilgrim #fundie christianforums.com

[From a thread entitled, "Why I am a Geocentrist"]

When it [the moon] comes closer and closer it gets in the stronger and stronger pull of Earth’s gravity. How can it then resist that pull and start going against that attraction? Contrariwise, as it goes out to the apogee and is moment by moment breaking loose from Earth’s gravitational pull at tremendous speed, how can it stop the outward movement and start back??
If everything is attracted to everything. The entire universe should be stuck together in one big blob!
If the moon's (and/or sun's) gravity was what controlled the tides, there shouldn't be high tides on the opposite side of the earth from the moon. [...]

<ul><li>QUESTION: If it isn't gravity that keeps the planets in their orbit, then what is it?
ANSWER: There are many alternate theories (i.e. Electric Universe) but before you ask that question decide if you really need an alternate theory. As Christians who believe in an almighty, infinite and sovereign God who is created everything that there is; why do we need to find a naturalistic explanation for everything? Is it not enough to say that God is in control and accept God’s word as correct?</li>
<li>QUESTION: Doesn't it require faith to believe that the earth is center and stationary?
ANSWER: Sure, but no more faith than it takes me to be a Bible-Believing Christian. And certainly much, much less than it would take for me to swallow evolution or geocentricity’s alternative, heliocentricity!</li>
<li>QUESTION: Imagine for a moment that science did have "proof" that conflicted with the Bible's blatant Geocentricity; which would you believe then?
ANSWER: Such a scenario is impossible, but if that were the case I would be left with no other choice but to accept what God says; science has been wrong before and it will be wrong again! "Let God be true, but every man a liar;" Romans 3:4. "He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool:" Proverbs 28:26. "Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding." Proverbs 3:5.</li>
<li>QUESTION: Why was I taught in public school that heliocentricity was a proven fact?
ANSWER: Because even though it is a feeble and very lacking theory, it is one of the best purely natural explanations and it is compatible with the (insane) theory of evolution.</li></ul>

NarrowPathPilgrim #fundie christianforums.com

But despite the testimony of all the equations, and despite the published testimonies of top scientists to the viability of geocentricity as a model of the universe, and despite the total and complete inability of experiments to establish its truth or falsity; some will still scoff at geocentricity. How can one ever determine which is the truth? Only by going outside the universe and taking a look around can one ascertain the truth of the matter. Without that ability to "look around outside," physics cannot resolve the debate. However, since God does know what is beyond the universe, shouldn't His word be taken as the final authority? It is the testimony of God as found in the Bible which constitutes the foundation of modern geocentricity. May it ever be so.

Marie O'S #fundie christianforums.com

I agree with you though, if the OP wants to help her daughter [a lesbian] fight off this demon then she should not be slow to beat her if she commits sexual sins (which can include fantasizing, not just 'doing things') relating to this perversion.
My sister used to be addicted to self abuse and our father basically beat her every time she did it, or even thought about doing it. She had a horrible life for about 3 months but is so grateful to him now .

jeki #fundie christianforums.com

[Apparently disproving the existence of mudskippers]

a fish can not become a land-animal...can not become a reptile...why?
it should have lungs instead of gills; and the evolution must be completed in a few minutes for the creature to stay alive. other wise it will die. but it is said that evolution happens in steps so it takes long long time... but as I said this is impossible for a fish to wait for its lungs to be formed...this is just one of the prooves that why can not life begin in water then go on on land...only one of the anwsers...

StarCrystal #fundie christianforums.com

['Yes. I belive aliens geneticly altered primative beings on this planet to become what we are today.']

But that would be like saying aliens were God, or gods. No, I don't believe this. What I do believe is aliens visited here and mated with humans that produced offspring. I believe humans were taken off of this world and mated with aliens on other planets. I believe these races that mated are all humanoid races.
The guys doing the genetic experiments are the grays and reptilians. This seems to be a more recent phenomenon. I believe it to be satanic. The humanoid aliens I know tell me the grays and reptilians are evil, and are in fact the servants of Lucifer and the serpent "gods" (demons).
I have battled these grays in Jesus name and defeated them. My wife has been abducted by them and bears physical marks from their medical procedure in the form of a triangular piece of flesh removed surgically from her hand.
So, no, I don't think aliens did genetic experiments with Neanterthals and made humans. Two different races, just like sasquatch is a different type of primate race, and probably of alien origin.

ballfan #fundie christianforums.com

Truman was President at the end of WWII but he really didn't have a grasp of international politics. Churchill understood the Russians much better but couldn't get the full support of Truman in dealing with them at conferences they attended.

Truman also botched Korea by trying to run the war from the White House. A mistake that now keeps being repeated.

Truman was a major screwup.

clirus #fundie christianforums.com

I totally believe Walter Cronkite will burn in hell for his actions during the Viet Nam war.

An example of the evil effects of Walter Cronkite's liberal democratic news media policy is the attempt to kill Zawahri. Democrats called for the killing of Bin Laden, but when there is an unsuccessful attempt to kill the second in command the liberal news media is very critical because there were women and children killed. Didn't the liberal news media and democrats know there are always women and children killed in any military action? Why should the Republicans ever attempt anything when they will be criticized if it does not go perfectly?

Democrats are unfit for duty as leaders of government.

Clirus #fundie christianforums.com

The Atheistic liberal news media greatly influences both domestic and foreign policy by constantly reporting only bad news about Christians, conservatives and Republicans and only good news about atheists, liberals and democrats. The agenda of the Atheistic liberal news media is to promote socialism, feminism, pornography, abortion, homosexuality and the Atheistic lifestyle by getting democrats back in control of government.

Timmothy #fundie christianforums.com

Satans evil plan..

Now, in this new age of high-tech and science,
That my plan has unfolded to blacken their conscience,
I'll go one step further and ravage their souls
With the filthiest garbage the world's ever known.

The Web will destroy their last vestige of hope
That my sickness of evil won't cause them to grope
In the darkness of Hell that I'll flood the earth with;
While they sink in the sewer of my vast abyss.

Perversion will flourish, depravity abound;
As the Christians go on — with hardly a sound.
Some will wink at the sin, and some try to stop it;
Others will crave it, consume it, and secretly fall
as God watches on, and I laugh at them all.

dad #fundie christianforums.com

Thinking about it, another change in a merged universe is gravity. There, -why would the distance between, or size of PO objects matter? There are no PO objects! Matter is spiritual and physical. As evidence of this, we simply need to look to New Jerusalem. 1500 miles high and wide and long, and it comes down to earth! It doesn't smash into it!!!!! Floats like a butterfly, and lands in a world where bees sting no more!
Earth, as the center of the universe, with no gravity as we know it! Yet, people still walk those streets of gold! We can go flying off in space if we want, but it is ordered better than gravity. Now, let's apply that to the earth in the past, before the split! We, in our physical fallen state walked like normal, no problem. But not with gravity as we now have in a physical only world!!!!!!! Wow. This gets better all the time'
Now, let's knock off the old problem of how did they build the pyramids right away! If they were built in the still merged world in the century after the flood, (or some before as well) hey, no gravity as we now have!!! How about the canopy or rings?? Piece of cake!
And, for the piece de resistance, the continental sliding--No wonder it was easy!!!!!

jeki #fundie christianforums.com

Our ancestors are monkeys, if you say so answer these questions...

1) why did (and how did) monkeys lost their feathers?
2) why did monkeys start walking upright? (even it is a disadvantage for them)
3)why did (ofcourse how did) they start talking?

OttawaUk #fundie christianforums.com

Since becoming a Christian, I see God's love appearing in places I never did before, especially in many songs that aren't even directed at Him.

The other day I heard Meat Loaf - I'd Do Anything For Love and this picture came to my mind...

[picture of Jesus on the Cross]

...and it really moved me like you wouldn't believe.

LittleNipper #fundie christianforums.com

[Commenting on Planned Parenthood, which is offering a modified version of Michelangelo's painting of God stretching his hand to Adam, handing him a condom]

Well, what do you expect from an organization whose founder loved the Nazis and hated blacks and immigrants....

DieHappy #fundie christianforums.com

There are more studies positively linking abortion and breast cancer than not. You can't make a blanket statement about something so unknown because it suits your baby killing ways.
This is simply one more step down the hill. In a few years we'll have articles about millions of downs babies lost, millions of babies who screened positive for alzheimer's lost, millions of left handers lost.
Someday, the world will abort it's way into Utopia, right?

Pherious #fundie christianforums.com

TOTAL DEPRAVITY. Babies are not exempt from being either elect or reprobate. The child is not innocent either way: Adam's sin pollutes us all and makes us guilty. Babies are as guilty as a serial killer is... in Hell, there will be babies. I know this is very hard to accept, and Satan wants us to question God's love on this issue, but it is a fact. Election is election; by saying that dead babies are always elect, is a wrong thing to say, because the Bible is silent on the issue: That means what applies to adults, APPLIES TO CHILDREN.

ShawnWong #racist christianforums.com

Of course, the Semitic Jews were just as discriminatory and racist as the European Christians were, even more so: the conflict of interest between these two groups have existed ever since Semitic Jews killed Christ.

Basically, where the Jews lived in Europe among the European Christians, they refused to assimilate: they considered themselves a special people, God's Chosen, and believed they were legally, socially, morally, religiously, and biologically superior to the European Christians. They always had the "us" versus "them" mentality, and believed that Semitic Jews as a group should extract as much wealth as they could from European Christians without any concern for ethics; that is, Jewish law dictated that the moral guidlines of how a Jew should interact with another Jew was different from the guidlines of how a Jew should interact with a Gentile. In other words, the Talmud delineates a non-Jew as less than human, as dictated by the Jewish God: "The Jews shall rule over the rest of mankind," and so forth, source: http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/books.htm

Well, the European Christians obviously noticed this behavior, and this caused them to have anti-Jewish sentiments, often errupting in pogroms.

So then, who is to blame, the European Christians or the Semitic Jews?

mark kennedy #fundie christianforums.com

[Commenting on the perjury charges after the Dover trial]

I read the [Dover] transcript and this is such utter nonesense I am actually encoraged that you guys get such a boost out of it. There is some strange query about who got 850 dollars from whom, my question is, who really cares? This whole issue is going to build up pressure and one day it is going to explode. Not because the issues have an scientific relavance but because there is a deep seeded animosity to anything remotely religious. I have seen some really good discussion from you guys but this is the bitter dregs.

White Horse #fundie christianforums.com

[Commenting on this news article which says "Around 10 million female foetuses may have been aborted in India over the past two decades because of ultrasound sex screening and a traditional preference for boys, according to a study published online in The Lancet."]

Can abortion lead to homosexuality or infidelity?

Something to ponder. There's a lot of men who won't have a woman of their own. Something's gotta give.

firstkid4me #fundie christianforums.com

Sure, the [birth control] hormones in birth control lower the risk of ovarian cancer, which is, at this time, undetectable, but I've read reports that the estrogen in it raise the risk of breast cancer. Personally, I'm not going to take something that lowers the risk of one type of cancer while raising the risk of another type. I'll take my chances with natural family planning (which is NOT the rhythm method) and my family history of neither types of cancer. Also, the pill is only 99% effective if taken at the EXACT same time every day, and I don't know any teenager that's capable of that (in the case of Jerusha_Girl.) I disagree with your want to take your daughter to family planning the day she gets her period so much, it's not even funny. It's as if you're saying, "You're a woman now, go have sex!"

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