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NarrowPathPilgrim #fundie christianforums.com

Yes, I'm a GeoCentrist.
There are several scripture passages that indicate this, "The world also is stablished that it cannot be moved." Psalm 93:1. And science cannot prove either because motion cannot be proven (Newton's 3rd law of motion).
Interestingly enough, there is quite a bit of scientific evidence to support it though. I have a well done documentary which examines both sides and presents the evidence. Its an extremely interesting issue to examine!

Sincerely, Zach Doty

PS. One reason why Heliocentricity has been so widely taught as a fact in our schools is because it is more compatible with evolution. (A BAD REASON!)

LittleNipper #fundie christianforums.com

Satan will attack anyone who he feels is messing up his neighborhood and I believe that often the very ones that realize the evil of any vice have been dealing with, or bearing a cross of, or have their own thorn in the flesh which keeps them humble.....
Satan never gives up his attacks until a person dies. While I know that a person cannot lose his salvation (from GOD's own Word), my feeling is that SATAN (if he can no long have that person) wants to DESTROY their testimony and any value he or she may have to witness to others for CHRIST.

A secular example:
I believe that there was and still is a real Communist threat within the United States. I see the United States moving towards Secualr Humanistic Socialism and social reform, with governmental control of everything and anything it can ----given enough time and persistence.
Now McCarthy started out as a very smart individual with an eye on the mark; however, he began to seek and enjoy the limelight, the status, the public notoriety and I feel he was set up to look stupid and become a laughing stock by those who understood just what it takes to get rid of a hound. You encourage one's vanity. You look for their personal problem areas (McCarthy had a drinking problem). Then when they get high on themselves or lazy or let their guard down-----you feed them false information.............................................. Once the "problem" has been discredited----the real enemy is free to begin their contrivances once again....

Lynn73 #fundie christianforums.com

The fact God created this large universe full of galaxies and stars doesn't assume there's life on them. They're there for this reason:

Ps 19:1 - Show Context The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

The heavens declare the glory of God. That's a good reason for all the planets, stars, etc. to be there.

Martinez #fundie christianforums.com

['A friend of yours is being chased by a murderer. She comes to your door and tells you about this situation, then proceeds to hide. You know where she hides. A little while later, the murderer comes to your door and asks you where she is. What should you do?']

I'm afraid I would have to tell the muderer where my friend was.

Liars have their part in the lake of fire, that burns forever and ever!

MarcServet #fundie christianforums.com

The Oneness Branhamites paradoxically had unveiled this truth.

Adam and Eve were pure humans direct created by God and Abel was their fruit of thier human beings, but only Cain was not a pure human because he had the breeding of the serpent. Prior to the fall of Eve before the curse the serpent was an ape form or more than just an Ape because serpent was a very perfect animal created by God almost liken to human, proof that the serpent was liken to human because he had an ability to talk with Eve.
The serpent beguiled(sexually tempted) Eve, and their fruit of their actions was Cain the firsborn(the fruit of the first sex).
After all the generations of Adam and Eve there were already an inter-marriage between pure humans and the bloodlines of the serpent(an ape-form), so all of us have the bloodlines of the serpent(Evolution calls it an ape origin) that needs to be cut-off by the precious blood of Jesus.

dad #fundie christianforums.com

[Hey dad, what do you think of the possibility of Noah and his son's flying pterosaurs (the winged flying dinosaurs), wouldn't that help to explain some things?]

Why not? The natives have a legend about a thunderbird that sounds a lot like one of those, no?

dad #fundie christianforums.com

[What makes you think that Dino's weren't in the ark?]

if we look at the other ark, the ark of the covenant, we see there were some things in there. like Aaron's rod. Yet the ark was little, just what was it, three feet long or something? How could a grown man's staff be in there? I guess we could say it was a shrimpy little thing, maybe. On the other hand this was a spiritual little box with amazing powers, and maybe betond space and time itsef inside. This means that basically anything may have been able to fit in there?! All we do is apply that to the other ark, and bring on the dinos!!!

shinbits #fundie christianforums.com

Consequences of Evolution

1) Belief that that God doesn't exist, and that there are not consequences for one's actions as long as they are not caught by men.

2) Deletion of conscience because of the belief that there is no moral absolute. Those with the power to do so will do whatever ever they want, whether it's rape, pilage or murder without moral conviction, because there is no moral authority.

3) Hitler was an evolutionist.


I can really go on forever, but I'll leave some of the fun to the you. What other consequences will belief that all things are one rediculously freak series of coincidences lead to?

JohnR7 #fundie christianforums.com

Your cartoon is typical evolutionist propaganda. Drug resistant bacteria has always been around. It existed long before the drugs were developed. Your mutation theory makes about as much sense as a can of worms.

whitedove7 #fundie christianforums.com

Autism is from Spirits of: generational ungodly order in the home (dominant females and passive males); dumb and deaf spirits out of occultism; inherited bitterness, anger, rage, and resentment; self-bitterness, self-hatred, self-rejection, and guilt.

krimsondraegon #fundie christianforums.com

['We teach children to think in a rational, and logical manner. How can we expec tthem to understand something as irrational as God?']

1) If they can't understand the idea of anything irrational, such as God, then why teach them imaginary numbers, and fractions? Those things are not logical.

2) You never deny God. You simply say that you can't teach them about God because you cannot expect them to understand Him.

Number two makes two more points:

1) You either believe in God, or you chose a poor choice of words.

2) It is illogical that you would hold the truth because you think they cannot grasp an illogical idea such as God.

Anyway they choose to move from there pretty much makes their arguement invaild. I like working people into a corner.

CHECKMATE!

Cooter #fundie christianforums.com

We can't pray in our schools, disturbing nobody, and yet Oregon just passed a law that allows people to actually have sex and masturbate on stage in strip clubs. Actually having sex!!! They said this is "protected free speech" and an "expression of an opinion." Give me a break.

lily00 #fundie christianforums.com

Evolution as monkey into man, stuff like that, I just can't believe that. The Bible is the breath of God and that is what I believe. No matter what proof you show me, it just wouldn't be made real in my life.Without God, you will perish whether you believe in evolution or not!!!!!!!!!!!

Croc #fundie christianforums.com

WHen Jesus saw someone sinning he told them that they were wrong to do that. Liberals love to throw that in our faces about how Jesus was so tolerant but thats a lie. Jesus forgave people who asked to be forgiven but he never said anything other than pure obeisance to Gods will was OK. What would Jesus do if he saw some homosexuals? he would tell them straight up they were damning themselves to Hell. Then if they repented hed forgive them and if they didnt hed be sad that they were going to Hell but hed still send them there. Read through the Gospels and youll see dozens of examples that every time Jesus saw people doing wrong he didn't keep his mouth shut and tolerate it but spoke right out against it.

WarriorAngel #fundie christianforums.com

One other thing...I dont hate atheists, I pity them.
When I ponder eternal suffering and fire that does not stop burning, I pity them that they choose that.

I would hope you seek grace to understand that God exists. Just so you know though, it is not my problem. Just giving you some info, and saying Hi.

lookoutman7 #fundie christianforums.com

Sasquatch - Could it be spiritual deception?


In 1974 & 1985 - we encountered the creature in the Princeton, B.C. area.
During the 74 sighting, I actually stood in the prints of something that was
left in a fine filtering of snow. Each encounter, there was one other witness.

My serious question is - can Satan have played this game (sasquatch) all
these years, this just another example of deception on his part? It would have
to be large in scale, as the devil can not procreate...but he can manipulate.

There are many unanswered questions in the phenomenon, and I'm applying
for knowledge to what is possible to this. Jesus was whisked away and
tempted, Job was taunted, and it is possible for Lucifer to disguise himself as
an angel of light. You can also entertain strangers.

This is a very touchy subject. Could man be fooled in such a large way?

clirus #fundie #kinkshaming #forced-birth #homophobia christianforums.com

Democrats - Soft on Security

The Patriot Act fiasco again points out the fact that democrats are still soft on security. Being soft of security is what lead to the 9/11 attack that killed 3000 Americans in American cities. The democrats like to say they are protecting civil liberties. That is equivalent to their statements that pornography is freedom of speech, abortion is a woman's choice, and homosexuality is a civil right. It is no wonder Clinton knew he could get away with the big lie that, I did not have sex with that woman.

The fear of criticism by the Atheistic liberal news media is what keep Clinton from taking on Iraq and Afghanistan. Why should Republicans take the blame for solving problems and the democrats set around looking like peace lovers. It is ironic that people who solve problems are criticized and people who do nothing are praised. Of course the doing nothing catches up with you, as it did with 9/11.

The Middle East problem is not going to be solved until Syria and Iran are dealt with. If it is done by Republicans, it should be done with a full declaration of war that carries with it a total censorship of the news media. It is unlikely Republican will deal with the Syria and Iran issue because of the pain inflicted by the Atheistic liberal news media, and certainly the democrats are not going to do anything because they are soft on security.

I guess it is time to start preparing for the next Middle East war.

The list of things the democrats never got done is long. They never had an energy policy. They never had an education policy. They never had a medical insurance policy. They never had an immigration policy. They never had a solution for social security. The foreign policy of the democrats was an policy of appeasement that led to 9/11, the North Korea mess, and the failure to resolve the Israeli - Palestine problem. The only policies democrats do have are socialism, feminism, pornography, abortion and homosexuality, none of which should be supported by Christians.

Democrats are soft on security, but strong on sin.

During democratic administrations problems develop and there is little criticism. During Republican administrations problems are solved but there is great criticism. It is a wonder the Atheistic liberal news media has not questioned the legality of President Bush breathing. The Atheists who question the legality of everything President Bush does are the one who most often violate God's law. I wonder what would occur if there was a fair and balanced news media instead of the Atheistic liberal news media.

It is pitiful that America does have the stomach for the urban gorilla wars such as Iraq, because that is the model for all future wars. If Iran gets a nuclear device, it might be different, but generally the nature of war will be house to house and roadside bombs. You will know the war has been won when the people are providing tips on the enemy. I totally blame the inability to fight a urban gorilla war on the democrats and the Atheistic liberal news media.

SamCJ #fundie christianforums.com

The No-Goders adopt their religious belief on blind faith.

The No-Goders recognize their economic dependence on the public dole.

The No-God/Evolutionists recognize the inability of their faith to produce economic benefits to anyone but themselves as its preachers.

The No-God/Evolution religion must be forced out of public schools as a violation of the 1st Amendment.

For more evidence on this subject, see Edmond's latest OP

(This might be a little tongue in cheek, but no objective observer could spend much time on this site without coming to the conclusion that Edmond and I have; namely, that there is a religious zealotry behind the athiests' efforts to bury any opposing views as an attack on their faith in no God.)

john crawford #fundie christianforums.com

Better to destroy evidence which supports a genocidal theory of mass extinction and replacement of the world's population by an African species of Homo sapiens who would one day rule the world of science in the name of neo-Darwinism, than to have imagined and theorized such a spectre of human annhilation in the first place. If I could just get my hands on some of those pesky Homo erectus fossils, I'd rattle their bones good.

defensor fidei #racist christianforums.com

What is wrong with saying that "Israel needs to be 'wiped off the map?'" He feels that is the will of his "Allah" and in the interests of Iran, but it would also do a lot of good for the peace of the world. I only pray he does not back down under international Zionist pressure.

john crawford #fundie christianforums.com

Yes, get rid of all those Homo erectus fossils. Burn 'em or something. Re-bury them! Cremate them! After all, they are just the dusty remains of some poor neo-Darwinst 'species' in Asia that was originally obliterated when superior Homo sapiens marched out of Africa and replaced those old erect Homos by driving them into mass graves and final extinction. The modern Out of Africa Model is the perfect solution for getting rid of a whole species of humans even if they do leave some fossil evidence of their 1.5 million year existance on the planet before those sapiens got invented.

SamCJ #fundie christianforums.com

[Commenting on Bush's conservative Christian district court judge appointee, John E. Jones, who ruled against teaching Intelligent Design in the Dover trival]

I think Jones is an athiest trying to protect his religious beliefs like the rest of you guys.

Keith Van Horn #fundie christianforums.com

The last thing Christians need is to be thrown into pagan beliefs. There is only one true religion and that is chrisitanity. Yes there are alot of different beliefs within Christiananity, but with Gods help those will come to an end. Then the christians, all being of one mind can go out to the rest of the world and destroy religion and traditions of man.

HeadBangforJesus #fundie christianforums.com

I would have a problem voting for any one who is not a Christian, regardless of the political party. I also consider a vote for a Democrat to be a vote against God. Democrats are the ones who want to take God out of everything. I am not saying all Republicans believe in God, but they are not trying to get Him out of America either.

Jesus_fan #fundie christianforums.com

be careful what you listen to...


i was watching gloria copeland a few nights ago and she was saying that what you set before your eyes and listen to with your ears reflects whats in your heart and vice versa. i mean what you watch affects your heart.

so likewise, listen to godly music, or at least...if you know its wrong..dont listen!

it could affect your relationship with god as it affects your heart or even your blessings from him.

john crawford #fundie christianforums.com

I'd like to point out that neo-Darwinist "scientists" who evolved from monkey and ape ancestors in Africa aren't properly qualified to judge the American people, especially Jewish, Christian and Islamic people who are descended from Abraham's ancestor, Noah.

Quasicentennial #fundie christianforums.com

"Seeing is believing". Someone has to capture the moment a living thing transforms itself into a completely new lifeform. A caterpillar can transform itself into a butterfly. But this animal does this regularly for every new-born member. Evidence from dead things can only be guessed at. Evolution is a guessing game for 'biodetectives'. If man did evolve from the ape, then every new-born ape would transform into a man. It would be metamorphosis but not evolution.

strikerchris0411 #fundie christianforums.com

How can you believe in no god if there is proof of some spirit out there.

The reason is there is wege [Ouija] boards. I don't know if i spelled it right, but i think yall know what i am talking about. Idk if you guys believe in those. but I have heard some pretty convincing stories. IF there was no God then there would probaly not be life after death

JIGROP #fundie christianforums.com

Demons Deceive

A systematic effort by demons to penetrate the souls of Americans stems most likely from the pit of Hell, the head of a leading Christian institute said. The attacks have been traced to Satan in the state of California, and the techniques used make it appear unlikely to come from any other source than the enemies of Christ, said John Smith, the director of the JIGROP Institute, an education and research organization focusing on salvation of souls.

"These demonic attacks come from a group with intense discipline. No other organization could do this if they were not a spiritual organization," Smith said in a conference call when announcing a new education program.

In the attacks, Smith said, the perpetrators "were in and out of consciousness with no apparent errors, and created an obsession for sin in less than 30 seconds. How can this be done by anyone other than deomonic forces controlled by the Evil One?"

Smith said that despite what appears to be a systematic effort to target liberal Democrats and hypocrites in varioius Christian groups, defenses have remained weak in many areas.

"We know about major penetrations of politicians in key cities," he said.

Security among private-sector casual Bible readers may not be as robust, said Smith, because "they are less willing to use their faith to resist spiritual attacks."

Smith said the strategy preferred by typical Christians appears to be to downplay the attacks, which has not helped the situation.

"We have a problem within millions of souls that have been terribly and deeply penetrated throughout the United States -- and in most nations of the world ... and we've been keeping it secret," he said.

"The ones who benefit most from keeping it secret are the attackers."

Although Smith said the demons probably have not succeeded in overcoming people of true faith in Lord Jesus Christ, who are accustomed to fighting off bad thoughts created by negative thinking, it is possible they compromised "extremely sensitive" inspirational information.

He said it has been documented that messages from prophets have been ignored, misunderstood or simply rejected due to ignorance brought about by deception.

Famous Spiritual leaders confirmed earlier this year that Christian websites are probed hundreds of times a day by demon-possessed Antichrist supporters, but maintained that no real harm has been done in their struggle to destroy the Kingdom of God.

Supporters of the JIGROP campaign have code-named their newest effort against Satan "Jesus Power" and have made some strides in counter-hacking to identify their humans enemies who are aiding the attackers, Smith said. This was first reported by Reality magazine.

Smith said a series of attacks on Music City Revival and the Elijah Jesus Club reported earlier this year may have been started against other Christian organizations, but they seem to be using different techniques.

In most nations of this world, Smith said there are some areas of improvement on the side of righteousness, because prophets are starting to fight fire with fire. But Smith argued that "the fundamental error is that our spiritual security strategy has relied too much on our own strength instead of leaning upon the power of our Maker."

It seems that even a few of those who claim to be Christians are not able to distinguish parables from fiction or polls from deception.

sallystrothers #fundie christianforums.com

disturbing vision I had last night about porn!!


Guys,

Last night I had a terrible dream/vision of what porn really is. It was very disturbing indeed. With God's grace I have abstained from porn for over 3 months now, and I thank Him every day for it.

I went to sleep at 3:30 am this morning and had a dream. In the dream I was on a computer and was surfing a porn website. I was searching through all the movies looking for one specific one I wanted. I would download one, fast forward through it to see if it was the one I wanted, then move on to the next.

I don't remember exactly what I was looking for, but I came across one that wasn't like the rest. It started out like a normal porn, then it began to shine of evil. The porn actors began to speak to me in the movie. They began to speak profanities and curses to me.

The evil escalated and immediately the porn movie turned into the most vile brew you could ever imagine. It was like flashes of demonic and disfigured creatures, if you took the scariest part of every scary movie ever made you might come close to what I saw.

I shut my eyes because this was not made for anyone to see, AND THE EVIL BURNED THROUGH MY ELELIDS. It was horrible, I couldn't do anything to stop from seeing the evil.

Then something truely strange happened. What was still a movie on my computer jumped out of the screen into my room. I could sense it's malice... it's intent was to destroy me. I began to cry out Jesus' name in desperation. I cried out over and over again.

As soon as I did this the evil lifted me up and shook me with incredible unseen force. It was like the force of riding a rollercoaster, so strong my eyes were too heavy even to control. I cried out for Jesus louder and louder and I was slammed down to the ground and left in a very weakened state.

I woke up at this point and it was 4:44 am. Bros this was more then a dream. I can tell the difference between nonsense dreams and dreams with meaning. This was reality. The grip of sin that lays in porn is STRONG. Don't allow it to overcome you.

I couldn't sleep for hours after this. I solemly cried until 6:00 am tears of joy that Jesus was there to protect me.

Don't fool yourselves. Satan DOES have power over this world. Many Christians discount Satan's power and it is a great mistake. Satan has power, but remember we are in this world but not of this world; greater is He who is within then he who is in the world.

Porn is a luxury no one can afford in this dying world.

SpellJammer #fundie christianforums.com

[Oddly speaking in the third-person, paragraph breaks added]

Words cannot describe the amount of hatred SpellJammer holds for liberals, he's always hated thier policies sense he was a child. (Not many children at six watch Rush Limbaugh, but SpellJammer did. And his mother was a democrat mind you..) But the constant abuse he took from family members, (Not mom or dad, they were good to SpellJammer, and they now consider themselves Republicans) the incompetance of thier leaders, and the disgusting display of inhummanity he has had to endure talking to them, has show them they are not people.

They rejected whatever morality they had when they uttered the words "morality is relative" and you ask them with full honosty, "If that is true, why would you be against being raped, murdered, and then peed on?" and in thier defence they can only display lashing out at you or getting some liberal-moderator to silence you. Liberals are in power, they are horrible sub-humans, and they sicken SpellJammer because they brainwash our children.

They're a plague, and the longer they exsistance, the more SpellJammer suffers. Every second he knows a liberal is not dead or atleast in alot of pain, is like a needle peircing at the back of his neck. SpellJammer was what you could consider a Christian when he was a boy, but as you can see in his profile now, that is no longer the case. The truth behind everything was revealed to SpellJammer throughout his childhood to adulthood, all was made clear, and he knew what had to be done. He's not going to discuss his religous values here, it's neither the time or the place. But SpellJammer does thank liberals for one thing, if not for them, he would've never been pushed to ascend into a faith that advocated thier destruction, and would probably not have become the strong-willed, innate leader that he is today. They created thier own worst enemy, but then, they wouldn't be the first ones..

Cell #fundie christianforums.com

Dinosaurs the truth.


Few of these animals lived after the great flood, human expansion finally did away with them.

But still there are descendants of these creatures today living in the Democratic Republic of Congo. One of these animals resembles the huge Diplodocus it has a long neck and tail but rarer is a full grown Diplodocus able to lift its neck 40 meters into the air. The male's have small spikes running from the back of the head to the tip of its tale. Referred to as the Mokele-Mbembe or the blocker of rivers.

The finding of this animal would destroy the theory of evolution.

I will dedicate my life to finding these giants and become a Cryptozoologist

proudman #racist christianforums.com

[On the president of the liberal Union for Reform Judaism's comments blasting the religious right]

It's our country, it should be a Christian country. I don't see why we let them have a voice if it is against the word of Jesus.

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