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Terri Horn #fundie christiannews.net

I would think non believers would at least check it out. ones who honestly check out what the Bible says since the consequences are so horrific. there are lots of things we believe BUT cannot see evidence such as carbon carbon monoxide, sir, oxygen, evolution etc. Read the Bible and in genesis mentions world being round. Read Job and it talks about an ice age as well as creatures that we would refer to as dinosaurs (word of dinosaur not used until 18th century. Sad that most people refuse to even take a glimpse take a glimpse of the Bible non believers REFUSE even to look. If I am wrong I will never know but if you are you will see a nightmare from which you can never escape from. Just remember you were told the truth and refused to believe. Jesus sweating drops of blood is rare BUT has happened to others. blood from the side if Jesus poured out along water. Unmixed blood and water is sign of cardiac failure and no one at that time would know that. Tomb was empty and Rome admits this and if they thought guards were responsible they would have been crucified for it happening. 3500 years before the birth if Jesus tells how he dies 1000 years before Rome ever used thus method to kill people. Refuse to believe just remember you were given a few facts so if you refuse to check them out do not blame God for your disbelief

Maxwell Edison #fundie christiannews.net

(Discussing story "US Supreme Court Hears Case of Baker Punished for Declining to Make Cake for Same-Sex Celebration"):

Maxwell Edison:
Jack Phillips is not being slandered. A same-sex couple is seeking to punish the man for saying no to not making a cake, but putting something on the cake that directly conflicts with his faith, not unlike asking a Jew to place a swastika on a cake.
More than that, Phillips has been ordered to denounce his faith to satisfy the Colorado Civil Rights Commission, or whatever its called.
What you are suggesting by way of Bible verses is heresy. Nowhere does the Word of God say we are to tolerate sin, or knowingly partake in the sin of others.
Get thee behind me, Satan.

Michael C:
What do you think Masterpiece Cakeshop was asked to put on the cake?

Maxwell Edison:
Something that went against his faith.
It wasn't about the cake but what this couple wanted on it. But you know that, and are being deliberately intellectually dishonest.

Michael C:
I'm sorry but it is you who is mistaken.
You might be surprised to learn that in none of these wedding vendor discrimination cases did the customers request anything that the business wouldn't willingly sell to anyone else.
The couple did not request anything "on" the cake.
The business owner refused to make the couple any cake for their wedding reception. He did not refuse the order because of anything they requested on the cake. He refused the order because they were a gay couple.
If you don't believe me, perhaps you'll believe Jack Phillips himself. Jack describes the situation when the couple entered the bakery as follows;
"'We're here to look at wedding cakes,' he said, 'it's for our wedding.' And so right away I know, this is not a cake that I can make."

Maxwell Edison:
What makes a wedding cake a wedding cake? What's in it or what's on it? Think about that then get back with me.

Michael C:
"What makes a wedding cake a wedding cake? What's in it?..."
Eggs? Sugar?
"...or what's on it?"
White frosting?
Jack Phillips refuses to make cakes with eggs, sugar, and white frosting because those things go against his faith?
Are you thinking that the couple asked for a cake topper with two grooms? They didn't. I've never actually seen a wedding cake with little figurine toppers. Do people still do that?

Maxwell Edison:
In other words, the application of common sense has you dumbfounded.
No surprise there.

Michael C:
I'm apparently not smart enough to infer what you're refusing to say.
What is it that you think the couple wanted on or in the cake that violated Jack Phillips' faith.
Please just come out and say it already. No more games. Just answer the question.

Maxwell Edison:
"I'm apparently not smart enough."
Your words. Not mine.

Michael C:
Thank you for representing Christ in this conversation with me. Have a nice night.

Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D. #fundie christiannews.net

Silas:

Who the heck do you think you are to try to abash the T-man with such words of unimmensity in so a multitudinous manner?! The Christian eats milksops like you for breakfast relative to the simpleminded ideas presented within your infantile posting. Relative to your simpletonian duplicity, have you forgotten that the Christian follows the Bible? In that respect, we have Romans chapter 1 within our KJV to instruct us on the role of male sodomites and their female counterpart, the lesbos, to wit:

"For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."

Our Bible says much more relative to the place these depraved heathens hold within the Godly scheme of things.

If you want to point out some "problems", then you need to do so relative your problems of understanding the simple Christian Biblical facts and dynamics,ok? OK! Here's one: the Christian doesn't have "gay" or "straight" friends! Our Bible is against ALL manner of carnality, save for that used for procreation. Our Bible also prohibit us from mixing together with unbelievers. Therefore, the Christian is not and would not be friends with any deviants! Got it?

The Christian also knows who is on their way to Hell! Because the Christian Bible teaches us to JUDGE, including within the Matthean verses of 7:1-3 which call for RIGHTEOUS (a.k.a. Biblical) judgement, when read and understood in historical-grammatical context. The Bible tells us that sodomites, lesbos, and other deviants are that way BECAUSE they are not Saved! Therefore, the simple logical syllogism is that all of these pagans are on their way to Hell! Got it? You can thank the Christian later for enlightening you relative to these simple Biblical facts.

Amos Moses - He>i #fundie christiannews.net

nope ... ALL MEN .... are murderers and liars and thieves and adulterers and idolaters .... and they were born that way ...... and the only thing in this entire creation that prevents it from going all out MADMAX Beyond Thunder Dome ..... is Gods restraining force ..... that you reject .........

Amos Moses #fundie christiannews.net

Amos Moses:
If God does not exist:
1. The Nazis were not wrong - its just your opinion
2. Love is no better than rape - might be unfashionable but not wrong
3. Blowing up innocent people watching a marathon is not morally different than feeding the poor - it just your opinion
4. Religious crusades are not wrong - because there is no standard for righteousness
5. Tolerance is no better than intolerance - why tolerate anything
6. There are no human rights - it is just your opinion - there is no objective morality
7. Atheist cannot justify morality
~Frank Turek

Worf:
I will try this again:
1. Most nazis were christian.
2. The bible commands women to marry their rapist.
3. Google "christian terrorism"
4. Google "Crusade Massacre Jerusalem"
5. Why does this article not want atheists to be tolerated?
6&7. Atheists are just as capable of being good. It comes from empathy, not religion.

Amos Moses:
1. most nazis were bullied into being part of the "party" and the vast majority were not part of the hierarchy of government ( and most of those were homosexuals and pagans and may as well have been atheists) ..... and so what ....
2. the bible DEMANDS that a woman be honored if their honor was taken from them and DEMANDED the "rapist" BE RESPONSIBLE for her .... for her ENTIRE LIFETIME ....... and so what ....
3. Google is not a reliable source of christianity ..... but in any event ...... has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the point made and a RED HERRING ..... a-theist have no basis for complaint ..... it is just their opinion ..... and so what ....
4. (see # 3.) and so what ....
5. (see # 3.) and so what ....
6. & 7. (see # 3.) & there is ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF of "empathy" being a basis for doing good ..... go back to # 1. ...... nazis had ALL KINDS OF EMPATHY ..... for NAZIS ...... and you are making several errors ..... but most basically LOGIC errors ............ oh .... and so what ....

Elca #fundie christiannews.net

quote," With all the different canons, versions, and translations over the years, I'd say the Bible has had quite a lot of changing." I am afraid you do have a point. We are witnessing Theological Chaos. A making of our own deceived flawed opinions and pride.
But within this sad confuse plethora of versions, the Truth of God's Word can still be found to be " Unchanging". But it requires, due diligence and a hunger and a thirst for righteousness to rightly divide the Word and the In filling of the Holy Spirit of rightly divide between cultural conformity and the Word of God that does not conform to a changing culture.
This kind of discernment comes ONLY by Prayer and a Humble Heart that searches for God to fill the Void within.
question, do you believe in an Unchanging God Who Creates?

Amos Moses #fundie christiannews.net

Amos Moses:
God has appointed Himself the judge of who in HIS creation is and is not ...... and HE has told the WORLD what that is ..... and it is WRITTEN DOWN ...... and it is SCRIPTURE ..... and you have no excuse ...........

Throatwobbler Mangrove:
And you have one interpretation of scripture, and everyone else has an interpretation that is slightly different. No one knows which one is exactly right. Once again, this comes down to you believing your opinion is superior to everyone else’s.

Amos Moses:
no, no, no ..... there is GODS interpretation ..... and we have NONE ..... anything outside of that is ERROR ....... and all you have is ERROR ................. as you do not even have scripture ........ you have given up your ability and right to judge who is and who is not ......

Throatwobbler Mangrove:
Do you not know what interpretation means?

Amos Moses:
do you know it does not matter what YOUR INTERPRETATION is ........ FYI ..... the only "interpretation" that has any weight is GODS ..... and when we allow the scriptures to speak FOR ITSELF ...... then that is Gods interpretation ..... that is exegesis ..... what you advocate is isegesis .... we do not bring our theology to the text and then try to justify it ..... we obtain it FROM THE TEXT ......... because the text is what we have ... NOT what we add ...... and we are FORBIDDEN from adding to the text ..............

Throatwobbler Mangrove:
Um...no, that's not what it means.
You know what the KJV is? It’s a translation, yes, but that also makes it an INTERPRETATION.
We have no choice when we read it, or read ANYTHING, but to interpret it. It just means use our brain to understand it.

Amos Moses:
right ... so when your kids decide they get to decide what you meant when you told them certain things ..... you are good with that .... because what YOU meant is garbage and what THEY "interpret" is right ............ do you even consider what you are saying and its application ..... FYI ..... God is not inclusive ..... He is EXCLUSIVE .....

Throatwobbler Mangrove:
"You just can't look at the moon too long."
You can read that sentence and interpret it two different ways. You can take it to mean that you should not look at the moon too long, or that you are being urged to look at the moon as long as you want to. Neither interpretation is wrong. What is the meaning meant? Only the person who posed the question knows.
And that's how it is with the Bible. Different Christians have different understandings on certain subject based on the words of the Bible. You may be correct that only one meaning is the correct one, but how can you possibly be arrogant enough to claim to know which one it is?

Amos Moses:
nope ..... wrong ... when you told your kids what you told them .... you did not mean what you said so that they could decide later what you meant ..... you meant what you said when you said it ..... and they do not get to decide later that you meant something different ...... unless you are an idiot ................

Throatwobbler Mangrove (this comment now deleted):
But this isn't about what you meant. The whole thing you are missing is HOW YOUR MESSAGE gets interpreted. It might get MISinterpreted along the way. You might be very clear on what you mean, and I'm sure you are. But language isn't always as precise as we want it to be and things get misunderstood. This isn't about changing the meaning. It's about getting the message clearly across. And you fail on that one every time.

Amos Moses:
nope .... The whole thing you are missing is .... I DO NOT CARE ....... my message is the SCRIPTURE ..... and the "interpretation" is what God said it is ..... and what He said is written down ..... and we do not get to add to it nor do we get to subtract from it ..... we do not get to use weasel words to get around it ..... we do not get to soften it so others can accept it ...... and it is not up to the SOPHISTRY of "our interpretation" .... and while you and i may have some difficulty in understanding it ..... GOD DOES NOT have any such difficulty ..... and our "interpretation" is not an excuse for saying it says something different than what He said ........
and when you tell your kids they have to home in the house by a certain time in the evening .... that does not mean "by interpretation" that at 5 minutes after that time ..... they are free to leave and go about their business in the middle of the night ........ again .... unless you are an idiot ........
scripture is not an invitation and it is not a plea and it is not open to what we want to believe it says ..... it is an ULTIMATUM .....

Throatwobbler Mangrove:
You exhaust the patience of even the most patient person, but I'll say this one more time. You do NOT understand what "interpret" means. It does mean to add, subtract or change. It does NOT. What it means is, and I'm using direct definitions from the dictionary now:
- to give or provide the meaning of; explain; explicate; elucidate:
- to interpret the hidden meaning of a parable.
- to construe or understand in a particular way:
- to interpret a reply as favorable.
- to bring out the meaning of (a dramatic work, music, etc.) by performance or execution.
- to perform or render (a song, role in a play, etc.) according to one's own understanding or sensitivity:
- to translate orally.
Notice NOTHING in all the many possible definitions involves changing anything. It is strictly about understanding, and nothing more.
As for God, you're saying God's perfect and nothing needs to be clarified. Maybe not from God's perspective, but it's US who are required to understand it correctly and sometimes words alone are not enough to do that and there can be some confusion or things getting lost in translation. That's nobody's fault, and it's not something anyone can do anything about, but nobody can say in situations like this that they are 100% right or wrong because it is not possible to know.

Amos Moses:
nope ... YOU do not understand what it means TO SCRIPTURE ..... and YOUR INTERPRETATION ....... means NOTHING ....

Throatwobbler Mangrove:
At this point it appears you are not even INTERESTED in having a coherent argument.
This has nothing to do with scripture. No one is arguing scripture.
This has to do with how we come to UNDERSTAND something and how it is spoken to us, and how it is possible to come to several different conclusions.
Once again, consider this example.
"You can't look at the sun too long."
That means two things. It means you should not look at the sun too long. It also means it's not possible to look at the sun long enough. They have opposite meanings, but the words do not change and can be INTERPRETED either way. So a person isn't wrong to believe it means that you shouldn't look at the sun too long, and the other person isn't wrong to believe there's no limit to how long you can look at the sun. There is confusion inherent in the original statement which has not been clarified.
That's EXACTLY how it is with SOME scripture.
And if you don't understand that, there's no hope for you to continue discussing it.

Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D. #fundie christiannews.net

This is the cause that any real Bible-believing Christian needs to support. Our Christian Bible defines sodomites as those worthy of death. We also know that they are hated by Jesus (Ps. 5:5) and that we are not to abet them in their worship of feces (Gal. 5:19-21). It needs to be every Christian's modus operandi to reject these homofags and lesbidisianists whenever and wherever we happened to encounter them. It is long overdue that "mark them" (Rom. 16:17) and get them back to fringes where these disgusting sinners belong. Bakeries, that serve food, including to children, are places that must be maintained in a hygienic manner, and therefore do not warrant the presence of the sodomite!

TruthvLies #fundie christiannews.net

One. Christian numbers are not dropping. They are increasing by the day. In China it is something like 10,000 day. In India it is thousands. In the Middle East muslims are converting to christianity in droves because Jesus is appearing to them in dreams and visions.

I know that you want their numbers to be dropping but it ain't the case. Even in America, over the last fifty years the numbers have remained constant.

I don't know what religion does as I am not involved in it. My faith is based on a relationship with a person so I don't need religion.
Sorry to say for you, I don't have an ego as I am dead and my life is hid with Christ in God.

Pascal's wager is only a poor argument if you are on the wrong end of it which atheists are. If it is true and it is, then you are a complete fool to say it is a poor argument.

But then atheist specialise in denial to avoid the truth.

Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D. #fundie christiannews.net

vicnicholls:

You ask some good questions, and you will receive Godly-inspired answers relative to what is contained within our Christian Bible. Now remember that the Christian goes by the Bible, and not by some "traditional" presuppositions about the Bible when examining the directives within.

One of the principles by which we examine the Bible is what the esteemed Pastor JJ Hunter called "what came first". In this regard where we have something that appears contrarian, we look towards the directive that came later, and not at the previous instances which we only use for historical reference. Take for example the Jew's laws for kosher food. Since these were cancelled out later, we no longer need to follow them, in the name of Jesus. Relative to the verses you cite above, as found with Col., Matt., Titus and Romans, we likewise use the directives from the later books of Bible, e.g. Timothy. Bottom line is that some things may have been permitted by Jesus at some point, but then an adjustment was made, and from then on, we're just to follow the standing directive, and not the one that was called off.

Also note that in 1 Cor. 11 Jesus (via Paul) didn't tell us that women are to be prophesying within churches! Relative to prayer, the female may indeed pray in church--but silently!

You say, "The issue was of dominating or leading men." This is a common legend that came from Cathlics. Nowhere in the Bible does it state that this was an issue. Do correct me if I'm wrong. There are those that like to make it out to be a rebuke to some female rebellion at Corinth, but there's no indication that such ever happened. Not within our Christian Bible. Rather, Jesus (again via Paul) tells the female to learn in silence, with subjection, to not even ask a question at the church, and overall to be modest, "with shamefacedness and sobriety". Why? The reason given is not that of womanly rebellion, but of her place. To wit: "For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." 1 Tim 13-14

Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D. #fundie christiannews.net

And what happens to the murdered unborn? The Christian Bible says:
"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6
Since they had no chance to accept Jesus, they are being sent straight to Hell. Because the Bible says so--and it says not a thing otherwise.
So what does the Bible say on abortionism?
"But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven." Matt 19:14. Also Luke 18:16 and Mark 10:14. Abortionists are prohibiting children from coming to Jesus.

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Eldrida:

The Christian is gonna go very easy on you here, ok? Ok! Relative to your anti-Biblical claims that (1) babies are sent to Heaven if they die (without knowing Jesus) and (2) that babies are innocent, have you actually read the Christian Bible in it's full historical-grammatical context? NOT!

In our Bible, Jesus explicitly states that NOONE goes to Heaven without being Saved! There is no other way and no shortcuts, for anyone, including unborn and young children. That's Christian Bible and true Christian faith plain and simple! In your ridiculous scenario where babies are somehow magically exempt from the rules of Salvation because they are "innocent", at what age then are they no longer innocent and require to be Saved? Please do tell and use the Christian Bible in doing so!

What's more, if you're to believe that babies go to Heaven, then you're supporting abortionism. Because we know, including from the Bible, that many, if not most, people will not be Saved, then according to YOUR theology, baby murder would only assure that all 100% will end up in Heaven (by circumventing Salvation, of course). How sickening!

Lisa Franey #fundie christiannews.net

I think we should pray if we want to pray. And these others need to shut up and turn their heads if they don’t like it. Just like the opinions of does one breastfeed in public or not. We thankfully have a great president now so I’m thinking he wouldn’t go against people praying no matter where plus he just might put Prayer back in schools. Be find with me! Anthesist can stay home and home school instead of the religious staying home. This country needs more Prayer then probably we wouldn’t have so many atheists

Truth first #fundie christiannews.net

Eldrida Urika:
"I always find it sad that grown adults can't get long with each other at all even just to work out the compromise .
Adults don't seem to have learned to share these day. They have little tolerance for other views and reject all suggestions of how to get along with small changes on each side."

Truth first:
You are totally correct in this if you apply it to the non-essentials of our lives, Eldrida. If we can find some common cause on topics that do not challenge the essence of the Bible, we must live in harmony with those people around us, and look for compromises if these can improve our relationships with them.
However, homosexuality goes to the core of who we are and how God created us. It is one of the non-negotiables of our faith and doctrine. As Christians we want to obey Jesus Christ who unequivocally rejects gay and lesbian lifestyles. We declare God to be inconsequential or, worse, to be a liar, if we even give the slightest kind of endorsement to homosexual unions. They can not be called marriages, as God made clear what he meant marriage to be. It is only when we redefine LOVE and redefine MARRIAGE in terminology that is unbiblical that we can endorse "same sex marriages". As Christian we HAVE TO warn the world about the sustained sinful state in which gays and lesbians live, and tell them that they forfeit afterlife with God if they sustain these relationships without repentance of it.

We can say all of this in a loving way, but cannot deviate from that message, even if it were to hurt the hearers.

Amos Moses #fundie christiannews.net

right ... nobody was discussing this with you ..... but fine ..... first .... the churches are not "exempt" .... they are "IMMUNE" from taxation ...... and if you do not understand the difference .... look it up ...... and yes we are to support government WHEN that government acts in alignment with what God laid out for government in Romans 13 ..... and when they violate Romans 13 ...... then we have no duty to them and only to God ..... or else we can immediately give the US back to the natives and go back to England and be under the Crown we rebelled against .....

Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D. D. #fundie christiannews.net

Reasonable Conservative:
First of all, when attempting to quote the Bible, use the Christian Bible and not a Cathlic counterfeit. To wit, "Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak." Matthew 26:40

Relative to your false idea that real Christians, those who been Saved by the real Jesus (as opposed to believing that they were Saved by fictional Jesus, such as that of Mormons or Cathlics), may knowingly choose to sin, have you actually read the Christian Bible?? The Christian Bible teaches us that once we are Saved, we're saints--not sinners! Duh. Unfortunately the space on this message board doesn't allow the Christian to present a proper thesis on the subject. But there are good news! Brother Wally Langford is an esteemed and illustrious Christian pastor that used to post some of his Biblical sermons on youtube. You can find it by searching for his moniker there: preachthehelloutofya . In his channel you can find sermon called "you might be one, but I'm not."

It is therefore, your assignment to study the message within so that one day you may fully understand the WHOLE meaning of the Christian Bible.

Eldrida Urika #fundie christiannews.net

To be honest for the evolutionist that say we come from apes is one of the biggest problems with the theory to anyone who looks at it, is if we developed from apes, why do apes still exist but do not evolve into humans as our 'predecessors' did. That is totally unlikely to have happened if we came from the apes ourselves. Even if all of them didn't turn into humans, I would think that the odd one would still evolve into a human just by the same coincidence. The odds are more for it than against that happening in that belief.
Otherwise, it makes no sense and supports our belief that God made male and female just like His Word in the bible states. That's how I've thought since I was little and heard that man came from apes. I wasn't Christian to have another belief to compare it to either. It makes no logical sense, nor is it reasonable to accept for some of us.
So just why don't the apes become human not even the 1 in a trillion that would be expected to go beyond the others and become a human too. Your proof are skeletons and human skulls and if God made us similar, it doesn't mean one came the other, it means they have similar skeletons/skulls to ours. Pigs have similar enough hearts to use in transplants, does that mean we also come from pigs? Why does one animals similarities get to be accepted as the reason but another's isn't - and that is not just the pig that has attributes that humans have too.
We all breathe the same way. we all eat and digest the same way. Our vision is similar to our pets, and can need corrective lens too. So with all the different similarities, why does just one qualify to be our predecessor? Wouldn't it be more reasonable to believe that we are a combination of all the animals than that only one qualifies as our origin.
I'm sorry if this is not what you expected but I've had a long time to think about this without the Christian perspective too. These are the questions I need answered before I could even come close to evolution being something that actually answered the question of where humans came from when I believe in God and believe that he does not lie. He is too beyond us than to need to lie. He can do anything why would he even bother to lie? We can't even come close to imagining what he is capable of knowing or doing. It's beyond our abilities to think like God, so we can't be confident in anything but the Word in the Bible, because if you believe in God, you are aware of his power without needing to question the things he does because of being God.
That's why we cannot imagine that we come from apes.

Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D. #fundie christiannews.net

Faggot:

You wouldn't know the true message of the Christian Bible if it fell on your head falling out of a 40th storey window, you little eunuch! Who the heck the you think you are to try to lie to the Christian relative to the message contained within 2 Corinthians 6? You ignorant dolt, you will never come close to the Biblical knowledge given to the Christians by Jesus Himself within those verses of our illustrious KJV!

FYI, 2 Cor 6 talks about interactions with pagans (a.k.a. heathens, a.k.a. satanists), including of the likes of you. It's simple math, really--church is for Christians, not for those that go against Jesus and His Word (Matt. 12:30)! Got it?

Amos Moses #fundie christiannews.net

Amos Moses - He>i
nope .... he does not .......... and you can give it a meaning that is not biblical ..... BUT .... this is a christian web site and a christian forum ...... and definitions that apply ARE THE BIBLICAL DEFINITIONS ..... not the worlds definitions ............. and YES ... people DO WORSHIP THEMSELVES ...... FYI ..... it is called NARCISSISM ............ and all a-theists are NARCISSISTS .........

hiernonymous?
Narcissus was a figure from a pagan religion. If you think that's a "Biblical" term, you've been having other gods before Him and all that - don't be naughty!
??
Amos Moses - He>i
?i think you are not interested in BIBLICAL terms .... so i used YOUR WORLDLY term ..... and IN FACT .... it is LISTED in the DSM-5 .........

?Narcissistic Personality Disorder DSM-5 301.81 (F60.81) - Therapedia DSM-5 Category: Personality Disorders. Introduction. Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD), a cluster B personality disorder, is considered to be one of the ...?

and that BE EVERY A-THEIST .........

Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D. #fundie christiannews.net

Why do we have rampant faggotry, even in schools? Because satanists (Matt 12:30) were allowed to preach that it is acceptable to worship feces. Because people do not read the story of Sodom and Gomorrah and take it to heart that Jesus destroyed those cities because they allowed the perversion of wicked carnality. Because children aren't taught Romans 1 so they know that Jesus hates (Ps. 5:5) homofags and has giving them up to their wile affections because they are worthy of death. Because schools don't teach 1 Corinthians 6 and Galatians 5 to know that faggots do not go to Heaven.

Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D. D. #fundie christiannews.net

This is what happens when perversions, e.g. homofaggotry, lesbidianism, become accepted in a society. At first these sodomites only asked that they are allowed to live, quietly. Most people, even Bible (KJV) believing Christians, could accept that. The Bible says they are WORTHY of death, not that they must be given death. So they were allowed to live. But their agenda didn't stop at just living a quiet life where they are allowed to exist despite their perversion, did it?!

Reason2012 #conspiracy christiannews.net

False. Remember the recounts? It exposes the blatant voter fraud treason being committed:
On the recounts it was shown that votes for her were criminally counted up to 6 times each - and they pulled the plug on the recount for obvious reasons. Local media reported it (do a search on it) , but MSM covered it up, including Fox
It was shown that MILLIONS of people who are not Americans criminally voted for her and democrats criminally counted them as votes from citizens.
All her rallies were a shadow of what Trump's rallies were, which shows Americans really did NOT vote for her as much as we were lied to.
Even the polls on every state she lost were false claiming she had clear leads, even in the double digits.
I would look up more information than just the liberal MSM who has shown themselves to be little more than propaganda passed off as news.

Vince #fundie christiannews.net

Love and fidelity have nothing to do with homosexuals.

Btw, if reading stuff you don't agree with upsets you, I suggest you stick with blogs you agree with. No need to stress yourself by finding out that people don't all see the world exactly as you do. When you troll a Christian blog, you just might run a Christian or two.

Amos Moses - He>i #fundie christiannews.net

this is what He told ALL of the disciples ........

Luke 22:35 And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing.
Luke 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

"and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."

in other words ..... EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO GO NAKED ...... be ARMED ..........

Isaiah5512 #fundie christiannews.net

Isaiah5512:
It's actually good to see how much this evil world singles out Christianity as the ONE and ONLY religion to exclude, to defame, to persecute, to hate on. What better proof do we have that Jesus is Lord? Only God's true religion, only the TRUE God and His children would come under such focused hatred from this evil world.

Doug Bristow:
A thousand AMENS!

Lydia Church:
Exactly!

meamsane #fundie christiannews.net

Law is rooted in religion, therefore, there is a moral aspect to law. Since there is no higher law than God's, All Societies throughout history have had laws that govern society as a means of restraining evil and bringing about justice, peace and order, I.E. an objective moral truth. (Rom. 13:1-7).

Medicine and Science also must rely on an objective moral standard, otherwise there would be no ethics to govern what they should do or not do.

Homosexuality has been around for a long time! So what? So has religion. Ask a Baboon how he feels about his homosexuality, and I bet he would not understand a word of it or know what that is. Scientists should be really careful in trying to ascribe human moral imperatives to the animal kingdom. I.E. the animal kingdom has nothing to teach us about morality!!!

wandakate #fundie christiannews.net

NO, and hopefully not, but I know that is the seed that they are striving to plant. It's call indoctrination, programming and brainwashing or deceiving them and leading from the TRUTH! People with these sordid agenda always go for the children who don't know any different.
These people are lost and in need of a savior. They have taken the wrong road that will NOT lead them to salvation. Same sex marriage is also anything but normal, it's PERVERTED, it's DIFFERENT, it's OBSCENE, as well as WRONG and EVIL! It's the works of satan and the demons of hell. It's absolutely "not" GOD's plan for humanity. One man with one woman was the plan. Creation came from GOD, not satan.
They are also NOT marriages in the eyes of the Almighty GOD of Heaven and earth, they are NOTHING more than a worldly UNION of two very selfish loss human beings that ONLY find pleasure in satisfying themselves and going against everything that GOD wants...It's disobedience and rebellion of the highest order.

Ted R. Weiland #fundie christiannews.net

Exodus 21:16 dictates the death penalty for kidnappers. Because every rape constitutes a kidnapping, under a biblical law, if convicted, this man should not be put in prison at innocent taxpayers' expense. He should be put to death expeditiously, per Ecclesiastes 8:11.

That the innocent (including this child's parents) are liable for the housing, clothing, feeding, and entertainment of society's criminals in an unbiblical penal system is but more evidence of the biblically seditious nature of America's Constitutional Republic. Time to get back to our true biblical foundations as evidenced in 17th-century Puritan America.

Under the Bible's juridical system prisons are superfluous. Convicted capital criminals are put to death expeditiously, per Ecclesiastes 8:11. Non-capital criminal are required to pay two to five times restitution (depending upon the nature of the crime) to their VICTIMS, per Exodus 22:1ff, etc. If a thief is unable to pay the required restitution, he's to be sold into indentured servitude until restitution has been paid, per Exodus 22:3. If he refuses to pay restitution, his contempt of court is a capital crime for which he's to be put to death expeditiously, per Deuteronomy 17:9-13.

Perfect, just like King David said it was in Psalm 19:7-11. Under such a system, crime would be all but unheard of and tax-paid-for prisons would non-existent.

For more on how Yahweh's triune moral law (His Ten Commandments and their respective statutes and judgments) applies and should be implemented today, see free online book "Law and Kingdom: Their Relevance Under the New Covenant." Click on my name, then our website. Go to our Online Books page and scroll down to title.

Then find out how much you really know about the Constitution as compared to the Bible. Take our 10-question Constitution Survey in the right-hand sidebar and receive a complimentary copy of a book that examines the Constitution by the Bible.

Judy Zwyghuizen #fundie christiannews.net

It's been working great all these years; why change anything for anyone opposing it? Let's not change any of our Constitution. We are a Christian-based America. I don't care if a few don't like it or believe in our ways, but DO NOT ALLOW them to change our ways. They're over here in our country and we are a Christian-based culture!

TammyHenson #fundie christiannews.net

The town I live in has not seen a single drop of rain since February, NOT ONE. No drizzle, no sprinkle, not even dew on the grass. So, it wouldn't take much to spark a flame. Not saying you're wrong but if Muslims are welcomed with open arms anywhere, it's in the whore state of California. (No, that wasn't a typo. I didn't mean to type whole state.) They are everywhere here. It would be stupid of them to burn it up but you never know what is going on in the minds of those animals.

Reason2012 #fundie christiannews.net

It's observable, repeatable, verifiable scientific fact that at conception in a woman's womb there's a life that, unless_killed, will live to be as old as everyone else. Hence human life does in fact begin at conception.

Reason2012 #fundie christiannews.net

Meanwhile search on public school islam and notice how these "atheists" do nothing while islam is being taught in more and more public schools.

Search on public school islam and read all about it - but atheist activists will pretend they can't find any such cases.

It just exposes them as really pro-islam activists pretending to be atheists, using atheism to shut down only Christianity.

Jerome Horwitz #fundie christiannews.net

The Freedom From Religion Foundation exists for one reason, and one reason alone: To remove any and all things Christian from the public eye. In other words, they are a hate group.

They can say any frickin' thing they desire, but it's their actions that say something different.

Anne Gaylor has publicly attacked the Bible. They went after a family for having a cross as a memorial for a loved one. Last week it was revealed an FFRF member named Preston Smith intends to have a Satanic marker placed in a Florida park for the purpose of mocking Christianity.

And they say nothing about Islam and sharia creep.

Now, I know, I know, perhaps you and others will scream and shout how untrue that is, how Islam is not being taught or accommodated in public schools and universities, using cognitive dissonance simply because you believe the same things as they.

It's worth mentioning that a month ago this website reported China had passed even tighter regulations on religion. I lamented no one on the sociopolitical left that posts comments here would condemn this. Surprisingly, one, MCrow, did.

But only one.

Which says everything we need to know about the godless left. And why bullies like the FFRF need to be fought.

Scott Davenport #fundie christiannews.net

I'm thinking these atheist turds really need to take this up with the one and only God...It's time to stop pussy footing around this issue...there is NO other religion than Christianity, and if you want to go to Heaven, that's the only way.

You don't get there thru any of these false religions we Christians are forced to give lip service to.....time for this crap to end......

Ken #fundie christiannews.net

The Thought Police that Orwell prophesied.

Ever notice that atheists insist that the Bible is not divinely inspired, and yet they treat the Constitution as if it was? They don't believe that Paul, David, Moses, and Solomon were inspired by God, and yet Madison and the other Founders apparently were, since the atheists have made an idol of the Holy Constitution.

The Constitution was written by human beings. In its original form it allowed slavery and denied women the vote. I think we can safely say there is nothing remotely "infallible" or "eternal" about the Constitution - especially since the Founders made it possible to AMEND it.

Let's get some consistency here. If you say my Bible is not inspired, I respond that the Constitution isn't either.

JohninRedding #fundie christiannews.net

It was pure foolishness to allow people to go down this rabbit hole. God made you who you are and nothing you do can change that. This is more of liberal thinking they are in control of themselves and that an individual can decide what sex they are.

Adam: Sword of the Spirit #fundie christiannews.net

The grieving thing about this story is that, like life, it can boil down to one thing: emptiness.

What initially brought fulfilling satisfaction (e.g. trans-surgery) now brings regret. Temporal things and pleasures cannot "fill" the vacuum of one's eternal spirit and soul.

A relationship with God can fill that vacuum. And...like a vacuum...God will also clean up a person on the inside; provided that they desire and want to be clean.

Eternity is a priceless investment, folks. And I'm a witness to His goodness.

Jerome Horowitz #fundie christiannews.net

MCrow:
I know many Christians who are decent folk who dedicate themselves to simple lives helping the poor and downtrodden. Those Christians I respect and admire. However, most I think would be good decent people without Christianity. When one can use the Bible to justify slavery, oppression, and beating children, I view it as not being objectively a good thing.

Jerome Horowitz (aka Jason Todd)
Real Christians read the Bible and understand what it says. You won't see one in Joel Osteen's church, in Fred Phelps's church, Rick Warren's church. You will at First Baptist Church of Hammond, IN.

MCrow:
Aye, and no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.
Frankly, I don’t overmuch care what a true Christian is. I judge a person on their individual actions. I see people use the Bible to justify beating children, excuse rape, and silence minorities, all with verses and scripture. You can say they are not “true Christians,” but what is being done to stop them?

Jerome Horowitz/Jason Todd:
No True Scotsman doesn't apply as there is no open definition for Christianity.
Intelligence FAIL.

MCrow:
Oh, dear. Borrowing from Amos, are we? I assume you mean ‘a definition open to interpretation,’ and there I’m going to ask a simple question: then what’s with all the denominations and church splitting? The term “heresy” is one coined in the western world to explain what is “true” Christianity and what isn’t. And if it is not open to interpretation, by all means, do tell: what is the one true definition of a Christian?

Jerome Horowitz/Jason Todd:
(silence)

Amos Moses #fundie #homophobia christiannews.net

Amos Moses:
"And christian... btw
one was a preacher"

ummmm ..... no they were not... and no he was not ........... despite the label ........

Throatwobbler Mangrove:
No True Scotsman fallacy

Amos Moses:
does not apply to christianity ............ FAIL ...........

Throatwobbler Mangrove:
Absolutely applies to Christianity. Actually, to exclusionary Christians.

Amos Moses:
nope ... sorry .... christianity is not a "logic" problem ..... and while God is COMPLETELY and EMINENTLY logical ...... your only fallacy is that you try to apply that fallacy to christianity ..... christianity is specifically EXCLUDED because of what christianity is .... so all homosexuals are pedophiles .... right ....

Throatwobbler Mangrove:
No, sorry. There is nothing "magic" about Christianity that would exempt it from the No True Scotsman fallacy, given that the fallacy itself is based on simple reasoning.

Amos Moses:
nope ... FAIL .... NTS does not apply ........

Throatwobbler Mangrove:
No, that's nonsense. The internet is littered with Christian examples. And in fact telling someone else they're a false Christian is about the best example there is.

Amos Moses:
NTS is an application to a logic problem .... FAIL .... christianity is not a logic problem .... FAIL again .... the only problem you have is christianity is not logical to you .... because you do not understand it ..... you can litter wherever you please .... but that trash does not float here ..... so again ... all homosexuals are PEDOPHILES ... right ......

Throatwobbler Mangrove:
I don't know what "all homosexuals are pedophiles" is except a lie, but it's certainly not an example of No True Scotsman. It's not a logic problem, it's a logical fallacy when you try to discredit someone else when they don't follow the same belief in the exact same way you do. You're guilty of it all right.

Amos Moses:
"I don't know what "all homosexuals are pedophiles" is except a lie"
so No True Homosexual is a pedophile .... hmmmm ... shoe on other foot i see ........

Throatwobbler Mangrove:
That makes no sense, and isn't an example of No True Scotsman.
Here's an example you should be able to understand, and helpfully includes a Christian example similar to the one you've been using:
"The example this fallacy is named for goes like this: one Scotsman declares that no Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge. Another points out that he's a Scotsman, and he puts sugar on his porridge. To that, the first replies that no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge. The problem here is that whether or not those who put sugar on their porridge are "true" Scotsmen is a subjective claim, or just a statement of opinion. Opinions are weak evidence for an argument. The porridge example is a trivial one, but this fallacy shows up in all sorts of sinister ways. Often, it's used to exclude people from a group. How often have you heard that someone isn't a real man, a real American, or a true Christian for a "distasteful" quality they have or action they've taken?"

Amos Moses:
thats why it does not apply to christianity ....

Throatwobbler Mangrove:
Right, here's another random internet example of how it applies perfectly to Christianity.

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/135/No-True-Scotsman

"In 2011, Christian broadcaster, Harold Camping, (once again) predicted the end of the world via Jesus, and managed to get many Christians to join his alarmist campaign. During this time, and especially after the Armageddon date had passed, many Christian groups publicly declared that Camping is not a “true Christian”. On a personal note, I think Camping was and is as much of a Christian as any other self-proclaimed Christian and religious/political/ethical beliefs aside, I admire him for having the cojones to make a falsifiable claim about his religious beliefs."

Amos Moses:
yeah ... proves nothing .... Camping was not acting in line with scripture and it was not the first time ..... so what .... christians decide who is a christian and who is not .... the christian is authorized by scripture to do so ... that nullifies any NTS .... and NTS applies to logical matters not spiritual matters .... misapplication of your "fallacy" is your problem ... not ours ........ FAIL ............

Doug Bristow #fundie #homophobia christiannews.net

Members of the LGBT, that includes homosexuals, are mentally and spiritually ill and their lives are extremely unstable. That would make them prone to the abuse of others including children.

They are living a lie and living in direct violation of God's Word engaging in sexual immorality and children in that environment will be either directly or indirectly indoctrinated to live a life of sexual sin and perversion also. Those who die unrepentant in their sins, including the sin of homosexuality, will spend eternity in the lake of fire.

Doug Bristow #fundie christiannews.net

All that is LGBT is a sin and perversion and that means those who practice it or condone it are perverts. Homosexuals or any other type of pervert should never be allowed to foster, adopt or otherwise have children in their care.

mr goody two shoes #fundie christiannews.net

Well I want the US government to do away with planned parent hood. I would like to see Not a trace of any of them above ground and living . but then the US gov would be doing romans 13 correctly . instead of defending the murders of little children. They would be using the sword against planned parenthood who murders little ones.

Steve Trent #fundie christiannews.net

Living out one's religious convictions should not be excluded from the public realm. True faith must find expression in every arena of the believer's life. If it is compartmentalized it is not true faith. If a same sex couple wants a wedding cake, let them find a baker who will do it for them. Why force someone to violate their conscience when there are other options? And behind the facade of anti-discrimination is an agenda to force secularization on Americans.

The plain words of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights have been extended and extrapolated over time by the judiciary to justify this agenda. Most of the founders are turning over in their graves.

mr goody two shoes #fundie christiannews.net

Yes and it all goes back to evolutionary teaching. No God no accountability to how you treat your neighbor or child.. Were all star stuff and pond scum. So if a dad wants to pour boiling water on his 2 year old child to teach his girl friend a lesson. If there no God theirs nothing wrong with them doing that either and if they have to murder a few cops to keep them selves out of prison so what? .and if they murder a few judges if there clever enough to get away with that to. good for them. That's exactly what Satan wants people to think that we came from star stuff and there is no God. And you should only be sorry for getting caught.

Amos Moses #fundie christiannews.net

His CREATION is a direct reflection of Him .... He is infinitely and eminently logical, reasoning and scientific ..... and the VERY FACT that we have logic and reason and science .... is EVIDENCE that He exists ..... and that you can perform any REAL science and get CONSISTENT results is a testament that He exists ....... again ... the evidence is abundant .... and every man is without excuse .....

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