people should have no right to be gay... and if you dont like our govt, get the hell out who is forcing you to stay here... if outlawing premartial sex is going to cure a disease that is or well was on the verge of becomming a plague then im all for it
Reason--Think it through, apply Pascal's Wager
Still refuse to believe that the Bible is true? I pity you, and regret that your ticket to hell is non-refundable except at the Customer Service Desk of the Bible. I don't see how you refuse to believe that the service desk is right behind you, and refuse to turn around to look and see if it's true.
Kenji, are you gay? You really need to shut up. There's no way on earth any intelligent person would tell their kid it's ok to be homosexual. There's a book "A parent's guide to preventing homosexuality." Now I'm sure it's a bullshit book, because homosexuality is genetic, but nonetheless, the civilized world understands that being homosexual is not natural. And I don't feel like celebrating my differences. I'm white and Christian, and I like it. If you're black and atheist and gay, fine with me. I'll still hire you if you're qualified, but I'm not going to celebrate with you.
Yes. There is no place for soddomy. This country is founded on Christian values, and our code of law is based on Christian law, and it should be upheld in every way.
mans logic is flawed because when used does not always produce accurent results or truth, you cannont always reason things correctly. example: we say the butler killed mrs smith... but actually she died of natural causes... you see we can reason and detuct and think all we want. but that wont always produce the truth. this is probably the best reason as to why its flawed. it doesnt help the fact that we cannont tell truth from lie in and of ourselves.
gay marriage is an abomination. I wonder how many of you criticizing the vatican actually even go to church. Liberals are so closed minded...
With the way some atheists act alot of the time, I'm surprised they don't go out killing believers with any excuse they can. No, wait. They did! In Russia! And, of course using the atheist way of looking at things that logically implicates atheists everywhere as mass murderers! Yay!
The [gay parenting] study itself loses credibility as soon as u say it is attributed to only a small portion of the gay community affected by this study. That's the fuck Im talking about. As long as there is no study large enough to encompass, and thus represent the the homosexual people as a whole, any argument pertaining to homosexual parents having no effect on children is unnacceptable.
It is correct to say that there are living cells in an arm, but not correct to say that the arm is alive - there is a BIG difference. And an arm is much different than a fetus. For one, a fetus is alive and an arm isn't... You can kill a living fetus because it lives; you cannot kill an arm, because arm's aren't alive.
A celibate homosexual (if such a thing exists, homosexuals have sex on the brain 24/7) is unnatural. It isn't the action that determines whether you're normal, it's the desire.
It clearly defies the type of behavior that humans were intended to follow. What good has come from homosexuality? They can't reproduce, they spread AIDS, etc. Homosexuality is a choice, not something that people are born with. And in this world, it's wrong to discriminate against traits that one is born with, but when you make a choice you can be held responsible for it, so don't gimme any of this Civil Rights stuff.
I don't know what the hell is wrong with some with you. Being an Atheist is NOT something to be proud of!
Actually, the cosmic background radiation was what I had in mind when I meant that the big bang could be used for proof of creation. And God said, 'Let there be light,' and there was light. -Genesis... Now, if God did indeed create light, at the furthest reaches of the universe, we should expect to see light. And what do we find? Electromagnetic radiation, of which light is a part of. Also, solar light is composed of other electromagnetic spectrum, such as ultraviolet, infrared, etc.
I agree with that completely. There's nothing wrong with being a homosexual, but just like Downs Syndrome, homosexuality should be cured.
OMG.. You people really don't know much about religion these days. God made the universe. The mixing of chemicals? What the heck are you talking about? You actually think chemicals made us and the world, the universe, the creatures, all the order and design that God has made?! READ GENESIS FROM THE BIBLE! WoW.. Wasnt that hard!
Omg this thread is so gay. I'm glad I never come to this forum, for I would have lost all of my beliefs from realist bitches. Can't you just leave the religious people alone. Is it against the fucking law to have beliefs, no matter how unrealistic they may seem to you cunts?
Proof of God... I am here to prove that God dose exsist. No i dont have physical evidence... my churches youth group went on a retreat this weakend... we started some heavey prayer along with some very spiritual songs... There were some 40 + people on this reatreat... Everyone had there own unique experiance. I myself Rested... There were alot of cryers and a couple of laughers... Everyone that went up there unsure came back 100% positive that there is a God.
also i would like to again point out how many times evolutionists have had to change thier doctrine. and that God remains unchanged =D if creationsism is a dead horse then why should evolution change so many times due to our resaerch.
The big bang theroy is pretty much disproven. Hardly any one that actually studies it belives in it. Its obvious it never happend. When has an explosion ever caused perfict balance? Never! Every exsplosion know to man has caused chaos and disorder so why should this be any differint? Pluse if there was some gigantic explosion how come were not still flying uncontrolable through space if there is nothing to stop us?
Stop saying you need physical proof. Just look around you. You really belive all of this came from a tiny cell? that is totaly and utterly bull shit... We are positioned the perfect distance from the sun. and you think this happend by chance? HA ya right.
[Replying to 'you can't cure homosexuality']This is a very short sighted statement. Pneumonia was a death sentence before 1940 when Penicillin came along. Maybe 20 years from now they'll have Homocillan; how do you know there's no way to eliminate homosexuality?
God asks that we first beilive and then we will see...as oppose to the perverse and backwards way of thinking today which i s'seeing is beliving'... you should try it and find out for yourself instead of making assumptions.
Part of Christianity is that God is greater than any scientific crap that man can come up with. Thus, if I were using faith as support, I could instantly invalidate every scientific argument you had. Note how this discussion will NEVER GO ANYWHERE.
hello........uh.....im new 1. where did all the matter in the universe come from? 2. how did life originate? 3. why do creationists say that evolution viloates 4 known laws (1rst and 2nd law of thermodynamics, law of cause and effect, and law of biogenesis)? 4. also why do creationsist say that evolution doesnt qualify to be a theory? and that special creation however does...?... 7.how come we see that there is evidence for a global flood if iy aint true? 8. why are you blind to the Truth by your rebellious sin nature and hardend hearts? 9. why say that stuff coming from creationists websites is junk, and push peer reviwed articles, when you quote talkorigins?
[Replying to 'good science is that which explains the world around us, whether or not it agrees with scripture"]and you know this is true because how? why?
When we're hit with a crises every Jew, Christian, Atheist, Secularist, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, and Communist turns to God for relief .
I agree that just like any demographic, there are good and bad homos. However, no one would argue that a retard should be able to adopt a child. The same logic applies. The only reason homosexuals want to adopt children is to use it as an issue; it isn't that they really care about the children. Once homosexuals adopting becomes an accepted practice, they will argue "since we can adopt like a married couple, why can't we get married?" That's the REAL issue.
Homosexuality IS a genetic disorder. That's what you and other homo/bi sexuals along with the majority of society fail to acknowledge. It's just like Down's Syndrome, Retardation, Dyslexia... no one would argue that we should just leave those people go untreated. Homosexuality is something that scientists should be trying to cure.
Secdonly, what about this so called nonsense I talked about people being born as 'inanmiate objects.' Ok Shadow Fox, I'll come back to the 21st century.This clone is still an inanmiate object, because the clone was still not born through intercourse.
1. I am a Christian.2. Homosexuality is in conflict with my Christian beliefs.3. Homosexual adoption and marriage only spread homosexuality.Why would I want to spread homosexuality? And stop spewing this BS about religious ideas having no place in our laws. Where do you think American morals came from in the first place? Christian beliefs. There is no disputing the facts.
Like i said before God cannot be proven with science. Pluse God has been proven several times in the bible.
I was being humorous. But seriously, aren't we fed up with this nonsense? It's time for American forces to move in and crush the freedom haters.
[Let's go back to the middle ages!]
And back on the mind control topic, education could be considered a form of mind control.
you argue that my lack of paragraphs hurts your eyes, this is a forum, i'm trying to learn japanese and they don't use spaces? would you rather i don't use spaces? i'm just doing what's natural to me, if it hurts your eyes try putting on some glasses or changing your forum look, it's not my problem, it's yours. from my perspective, this is a place for words, not pictures. try putting yourself in people's shoes instead of thinking only about yourself all the time. typical selfish athiestic attitude.
I was thinking about evolution and the many scientific laws it violates, and I realized the biggest law it violates- Murphy's Law. Murphy's Law is that 'if anything can go wrong, it will.' You would have to agree with me that Murphy's Law is a fundemental aspect of everyday life- the bread pops out of the toaster, and falls on the floor. The light turns red as you pull up to the intersection. The plane is delayed due to bad weather. The computer is contaiminated with a virus because you were downloading a bunch of sh*t of a Kazaa. Murphy's Law is the law of chaos, of disorder. Everything goes downhill. However, evolution has to go against this disorder in the universe. That's the point- something from nothing, life form nonlife, order from chaos.
the mere fact that energy comes into this open system from the sun doesnt even begin to explain how complexity can occur. its like a bull ina china shop. people (creationists) ussualy do make straw men arguments against evolutionist using the 2nd law...but its only strawmen because its not complete.
Well, I don't know what to say. Except that, well, just a conspiracy theory... Bear with me. It is somewhat possible that scientists have been hiding the evidence for creationism from the public in order to push evolution to the forefront. Why? I don't know.
Another thing I just found out. I got that information (how scientists measure radiometric dating [and its limitations]) out of a book... the source of that statment, an article from the Annals of New York Academy of Science, volume 288... The[ir] website...has almost every single volume of that magazine- except volume 288! They know. They know that if a creationist got ahold of that sort of information... there will be hell to pay. Sure, it sounds like an Evil Atheist Conspiricy like WinAce has on his homepage- but I think that's what it is.
Black children should be given to black families, and white children to white families, Chinese children to Chinese families etc. Cut the political correctness crap, and realize that there's a cultural difference between races.
Well the number 1 reason [to ban it] is that 'the 'bigotry' of America' as 65% of Americans don't want gay marriage. I don't want to have to explain to my kid why two fags are holding hands in the park. Gay marriage destabilizes the society. Once you extend marriage to one alternative group, you have to extend it to all alternative groups. That opens the door for the polygamists, and then the NAMBLA pinheads. Then it opens the door for more cultural debasement: rap music being played in the streets, legalized prostitution, legalized drugs. Gay marriage is just the jumping off point. This is also not my loony theory. All you have to do is look at Europe (esp. Sweeden and Denmark), and it becomes clear that gay marriage is just the jumping off point for a complete collapse of the culture.
A constitutional ammendment banning gay marriage is the only real way to curb this problem. Unfortunately, I kindof doubt if it will pass. It's too late to do anything about interracial marriages, interclass marriages, or non-arranged marriages, but if we invoke the constitutional process, perhaps we can prevent the marriage institution from degenerating further.
There must be something wrong with homosexuals, most likely a genetic flaw. I see it as a disease, and until we learn more about what causes it, how to cure it, and whether or not it's "contagious" we should hold off on allowing those people to parent a child.
In fact, a woman has no RIGHT to an empty womb; getting pregnant is part of being a woman - that's how it naturally is and, though it might seem unfair, that's how it was meant to be. Who are we to accuse nature of imposing on our supposed rights?
Because they [homosexuals] are all unemployed and have nothing better to do than harass and annoy people with thier dumbass parades.
You have obviously not read the website. The last page advocates women's 'reproductive rights' under the guise of 'humanely decreasing the world population.' The website almost sounds to me like it advocates a liberal agenda by Appeal to Consequences. (i.e. if women don't have abortions, civilization as we know it will end!)
I've now finished reading the website, and I still view it with a guarded skepticism. It seems to be an attempt to push an animal-loving, industry-hating, pollution-hating, homeopathy-loving, abortion-loving, government-expanding, drug-loving agenda. I also think the author had a hard time keeping his anti-Bush rhetoric out of the discussion.
See, living fossils (like the coelcanth and the Loch Ness monster) prove that there haven't been millions of years, because if there had been millions of years, such creatures would have died long ago, or at least have evolved into a new form... Just a thought.
The calflick church is not christian. They are worse then atheists cause they do evil disguised in the name of Christ. They are a pagan church just like the rest of the churches.
huge amounts of evidence do not point towards science in dis-chord with scripture psuedo science on the other hand....welll...=D