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Heidi #fundie christianforums.net

Evolution insinuates bestiality

The notion that apes are our ancestors insinuates the fact that humans and apes can interbreed. The ability to interbreed is part of the definition of a species. So scientists saying that we are part of the ape family means that we can interbreed. Offspring are produced by sexual relations between its parents. So saying humans come from apes presupposes bestiality. The theory of evolution is a classic example of the prurients mind of men. :(

caseypayne1980 #fundie christianforums.net

['Apes and humans are equally evolved. And by the way...winter isn't that cold in Africa, yet people have hair on their head there too, don't they?']

No they do not. Neither has evolved what so ever in all the recordings of mankind. Hair is to cool you in the summer and keep you warm in the winter. God really is that ahead of the game. My point is if monkeys in Africa still have hair then so should African that live there, but if you look there bald bodied as can be. Hence, Evolution does not exist.

bibleberean #fundie christianforums.net

There is no justification for statues, icons, etc of the devil goddess [the Virgin Mary]. Not one apostle ever prayed to or through these idols nor taught such a vile practice.

<p>Those who promote and use satan's logic and misapplied scriptures are teaching the doctrines of devils.

<p>[insert bible verses here]

<p>Be rooted and stablished in Jesus not the false, vile seductress devil Rome, Eastern Orthodox, Muslims, and others who are of the synagogue of Satan worship.

cuiq #fundie christianforums.net

I do have a few questions for evolutionist.

1) How was the matter created/formed that caused the big bang?
2) What/how was the goo/slime put there to form fish/apes whatever? What caused these things to begin to form in the first place?
3) How can you really prove that the earth has been here millions of years when after a certain point it would have to be ones best quess? I mean we have records (I think) that prove thousands of years but millions?

unred typo #fundie christianforums.net

You’re just not getting this concept. The earth was formed less than 6,000 years ago and everything on it is younger than that. If it dates older, there’s something wrong with your method, your sample, or your technique.

MrVersatile48 #fundie christianforums.net

I've long wanted to do a thread @ the insanity of wasting trillions of dollars in space programs' insane quest for excuses to ignore God's laws & promote atheism - esp as so many are starving, homeless & poor in today's world

Today's EU probe news means now is the ideal time [...]

If you search @ "space probe costs", you get a link that falsely claims that it costs NASA less to send a probe to Mars than it would cost Hollywood to make a movie @ it

Does anyone recall the very sarcastic '70s Larry Norman song @ the cost of the '69 moon landing?

It talked @ the huge media frenzy over the samples of moon rock & the end said, "Only cost $13 billion dollars: musta been nice rocks!!"

Even @ '69 costs of moon probe, against today's cost of movies, I seem to recall recent TV shows & magazine features about the multi-MILLION costs of the Top 50 most popular films ever

If you add 26 years of inflation to space probe costs, it is even more obvious that cover-ups keep true costs from the public

There are 3m+ homeless in Kashmir alone

& a VERY high % of Earth's peoples are seriously under-nourished

-maranatha- #fundie christianforums.net

Of course evolution can´t be brought together with the book of Genesis.
The "death" of bacterias was no death, because I can´t remember bacterias being considered as living beings anywhere in scripture.
Normally people don´t speak or think of the death of bacterias...

xxangelzkiss #fundie christianforums.net

['To other creationists - what is your single most important reason, besides the Bible, to believe that evolution is false?']

ahhh i finally get to speak on something that has recently ignitied my passion!!!

well as of recently more and more scientists have been turning from evolution to an intelligent designer of the universe. why is this? Well Science is pointing towards God!!

Featherbop #fundie christianforums.net

Atheists are basically assumers, and have no clue. They are like mass produced robots. 'freethinkers' is their oxymoron name... Claiming that God doesn't exist, and providing no evidence for such a moronic claim is just laughable. Atheists are not freethinkers, or openminded, they lied through their teeth with that joke. They will reject God until death. They refuse to listen to evidence of what they don't like. Atheists hate 'religion', but, from an atheist veiwpoint, there is no reason to. Its all worthless, why even try to enjoy this life? Its all worthless anyway... All these things plus, the fallacys, logical inconsistencies, contradiction of reality, baseless assumtions, etc, of atheism just prove it to be the pile of crap that it is.

bibleberean #fundie christianforums.net

I won't eat with anyone who is called a brother in Christ who promotes those types of sins [adultery, theivery, etc.] either. [...]

<p>I will eat with non-believing homosexuals with the intention of getting them to repent and turn to Christ.

destiny #fundie christianforums.net

If scareing the heck out of you will help you understand that there is a real spiritual realm then I'm all for you getting the wee wee scared out of you! Grace and mercy can come in the weirdest ways. And believe it or not God has a tremendous sense of humor.

Solo #fundie christianforums.net

The reason that the theory of evolution is so disgusting and detestable is because many will be cast into an eternity apart from God, just as his word says because evolution is one deception used to explain away the origin of man away from the creator.

Heidi #fundie christianforums.net

Nevertheless, the theory of evolution proves how bizarre, far-fetched and ridiculous one has to be to deny God. Let's forget for a moment the obvious fact that apes can no more breed human descendants than humans can breed zebras as descendants. All anyone has to understand is the simple birds and bees to know why. But for those who don't, let's engage in fantasy and see what had to have happened for this impossible, crazy theory to have taken place;

1) Each ape had to find another creature which with to breed to create offspring that looks more like a human than an ape. The odds of that are incalculable.
2) Then these exact same offspring had to migrate all over the world because according to science fiction writers, homo-sapiens also existed in North America
3) The next step in this impossible chain is that each homo sapiens in North America had to find a mate identical to the mates of other homo-sapiens in Africa to breed descendants who could speak! That make the odds even more incalculable since no two animals and humans look and act alike. So the exact same so-called "mutations" had to have happened in thousands of homosapiens which makes the odds unfathomable as to be impossible.
4) There are no accounts by any ancient cultures of any of these creatures ever existing yet they are supposed to be our ancestors. :o
5) The so-called common ancestor from which these creatures supposedly came is still as imaginary as the minds who invented them. That makes the common ancestor as imaginary as the Flying spaghetti monster.

Heidi #fundie christianforums.net

In fact, not too long ago my husband read an article to me in the newspaper about bones that scientists found in the Mohave desert. They dated them and said they were millions of years old Then a man contacted them and told them he thought they were the bones of his uncle who had wandered away months ago. So they did DNA testing and sure enough, they were the bones of his uncle. So once again, scientists can very easily brainwash the public simply because they have degrees.

Lewis W #fundie christianforums.net

Quath and anyone else' you cannot prove evolution. Evolution does not have a mind. Evolution cannot say' well I think I will make a monkey today' or a fish. Evolution can't do this' even over a length of time. Evolution does not have a mind. If a person can't look around and see God everywhere and in all things' something is wrong with that person.

unred typo #fundie christianforums.net

A List of the Ten Big Lies of Evolution

Creation has no scientific support.
There are no world wide catastrophic flood evidences in the fossil record.
Creationism denies the existence of improvements in the design of creation.
Creationism teaches racism.
Creationism is contrary to the laws of all science.
Creationism is not recognized as legitimate science by any leading scientists.
Creation science is a mindless religion.
The speed of light can not be changed and therefore proves the age of the universe.
The earth's age can be figured by isotope levels of various elements.
Scientific evidence supporting Creationism has been dishonestly fabricated

bibleberean #fundie christianforums.net

Their [Muslims] god is satan and they have always hated Christians and Jews and the God they worship.

Ever notice that every evil in the world is placed on the shoulders of the United States by liberals?

Yet the Muslims can have their own children blow themselves up to kill non combatants in suicide bombings... but they have "their reasons" according to the wigged out logic of some...

Go figure!

Lewis W #fundie christianforums.net

And I am tired of hearing that crap about, well abort the baby early, and there will be nothing to it. Oh thou earthly fools, you have no right to take God's babies life without His permission. When abortion clinics get blown to bits, it makes me a happy man.

Lewis W #fundie christianforums.net

Fossils can only be created by rapid burial. They are also at lost to explain, why fish fossils are found at the tops of the worlds highest peaks or mountains, the dummys, will not even concede to evidence, because they are fools. They just will not give God' His place or believe in such a thing as devine intervention, like the WORLD WIDE FLOOD. But if they don't repent and give God his place, they will receive eternal damnation, and they have nobody to blame but themselves.

Heidi #fundie christianforums.net

Actually, reality proves evolution a hoax more than anything else. All one has to do is go to a zoo to see what apes breed. And they have bred that way since the beginning of recorded history. That's why Jesus said to have the faith of a child. A child doesn't analyze, twist, or distort. He also doesn't rely on science to see reality, but mere observation.

ikester7579 #fundie christianforums.net

[From a certain point of view, sure. Unfortunately, this thread is meaningless since it assumes God exists in the first place.]

You are at a Christian forum, are you not? What you will see here demonstrated, is faith. Just like some of science, and it's theories require faith. How? Has anyone seen the oort cloud yet? Believing in what you cannot see, is having faith that it is there.

Science even has god did it type excuses for what they cannot explain.

1) Natural selection.
2) Given enough time, anything can happen.
3) Odds don't count, because science no longer counts it.
4) If we can see it, it did happen. Assuming that evolution has become an absolute.
etc...

So there is a lot of faith and assumptions from the other side as well.

caseypayne1980 #fundie christianforums.net

I've read reports showing the false beliefs of science. "IF" evolution existed we'd still be hairy like apes. For evolution to choose us and not apes is way off. To say well one got to evolutionize and the other stayed hairy. Evolutionist will tell you that the hair stayed on ur head for the sun rays to get blocked. Last time I checked hair was to keep you warm in the winter, not to block sun rays. In that case how come through the generations people getting skin cancer haven't developed into hairy beasts. Exactly, thank you because evolution does not exist. It's a made up theory. You claim evidence, evidence of what? Have you seen it with your own eye's or are you believing a lie? I'm telling you right now, if it goes against Gods word then it is wrong. By accepting Evolution you take away Adam and Eve. You know how so many animal fossils have turned to bone so fast is because they were not only preserved in mudd from the Flood, but they were also compressed with water. Water increases the process of bones turning into rocks. And yet still fossils found today have bone inside of them. Now do you think a bone inside of a rock could last millions of years? Probably not. I'm not flaming you, just stating that it's mis guided information for people to accept a way to go against God. God stressed no tolerance what so ever of other religions, and yes science is a religion.

wrightbrigade #racist christianforums.net

['Wow, some of the exact same arguments were used against miscegenation (interracial marriage).']

were used? Still are used. I think miscegenation is also wrong, but not even close to Homosexual marriage. I remember when only one black person went to my school, when half blacks showed up they were treated poorly and often stayed to themselves. They was dead smack in the middle of not knowing what the heck they were. Now it's more common, that don't make it right, but hey that's only one small nail in this countries coffin Homosexual acceptance opens the door for accecptance of any and all that is perverse, that make it a whole board in the coffin.

Featherbop #fundie christianforums.net

Yes, the innocent could be abused by that system [under which divorce is outlawed], but they deserve it if they take a risk as bad as marriage full well knowing what can,(and probably will) happen. The naqtion would greatly benefit from this, but I know it'll never happen.

blueeyeliner #fundie #sexist christianforums.net

Men who say they are for womens rights are often only saying it just so they don't have any responsibility to the relationship with a woman. many men don't want to lead because it's a job that only a true christian male can handle... It's very scarry to know someone who is so down on God like you are,and that there are people who claim to know the bible who actually have no clue to what it means are says.

Heidi #fundie christianforums.net

Even scientists know there's a God
by Heidi on Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:59 pm

Since according to scientists, energy can never be created or destroyed, then that means it has always existed and always will. So they know there's a God because they know that an eternal force exists. They just don't call energy God even though they acknowledge that it's a powerful unseen force whose power is limitless and infinite. So they have just defined God yet they deny Him at the same time. Incessant contradictions. Yours in Christ,

unred typo #fundie christianforums.net

When they come up with one with more ego appeal and less holes in it, you’ll see the ToE dropped like a hot rock from Hades. My prediction is probably it will be that an ‘alien’ from another galaxy will come and take credit for dropping the first couple here 6,000 years ago, explain the Bible was written by his inspiration, and that he is not only the OT God but the long awaited Messiah. He will have unlocked the secrets of miracles and perform wonders before an adoring crowd of true believers. Jesus will probably be proclaimed an imposter and the Antichrist will take his place.

Relic #homophobia #quack christianforums.net

[Relic thinks he's found the cure for homosexuality]

Everyone knows the Physical can be treated by doctors that aren't type who are nothing but butchers or money hungry vultures. Nothing like a good dose of testosterone when it is lacking or, in the case of women estrogen. If it is not physical, it is a mental condition. Both can be treated properly, And, Christ Jeus teaches the healing and overcoming of any malady. Even to those who are physically disabled in other ways.

If a person is depressed do we advocate for them to stay in the depressed state of being? NO. So then, why do you advocate for the person who has a chemical imbalance to stay in the homosexual state of being if what is out of balance in their bodies are their testosterone or estrogen levels?

Ðoppleganger #fundie christianforums.net

If a day is as a 1000 years to God, he concluded that a divine year, is 365 1/4 x 1,000 or 365,250 of our own years. Thus the time between the beginning of creation and the creation of man is 42,000 x 365,250 which equals 15.34 billion years! Pretty amazing HUH! And to think a bunch of dumb Jews had it figured out a long time ago.
Scientists have measured the age of the universe and have concluded that the relationship between time near the beginning of the Big Bang and time today, is one million million. As the universe expands, time and its relationship to it would increase, right? If you viewed the six days of creation in the transmitting of time as we see today, the first day, would have been 8 billion years long. The second 24hr day period, would be experienced by us as 4 billion years. The 3rd as 2 billion. The 4th as 1 billion. The 5th as a 1/2 billion. The 6th as a of a 1/4 billion. So adding 8 + 4 + 2 + 1 + 1/2 + 1/4 equals 15 3/4 billion years! Pretty much the same as cosmologists agree.

There's also a NASA/ scientist/ evolutionist connection here. Humm, I wonder where they got that number from! Well as the story goes, NASA was researching the age of the universe when one scientist recalled that some ancient Hebrew writings might have a clue. This is the document they used to confirm there own anomolies in there research, which then dated the age of the universe to some 13 billion years, after that they dated the age to 15 billion years.

spreadingtheword #fundie christianforums.net

How many of you agree that science needs to be reined in, and that out of control science is one of the greatest dangers to mankind short of Satan himself? YES

Should there be limits to what scientists can study? YES

Should all research be subjected to some kind of ethics board approval? YES

Should be some kind of review of any proposed research for ethical purposes, and should that board include people who are not themselves scientists? YES

Is the whole idea of discovery for the sake of discovery is flawed? YES

Are there limits to what mankind should be allowed to know? YES

Is the much touted liberal idea of being open minded a recipie for destruction? YES

Does being too open minded cause people to think too much and question too much? YES

Is it dangerous to think too much, and question too much? YES

Is it dangerous to know too much? YES

Does knowledge ultimately reduce peoples fear of God? YES

Is it better to be closed minded - secure in the knowledge that God has told you everything that you need to know? YES

We really need to put the breaks on science. Scientists should only be allowed to study what needs to be studied as decided by the people. Scientists should stop telling people what to believe.

unred typo #fundie christianforums.net

If ID is Creation theory in drag, Evolution is naked Atheism, stripped of it’s final conclusion. The underlying force that fuels it’s propagation is the need to deny the existence of God.

We shouldn’t teach anything that can’t be proven, either by experiment, history or mathematical fact. Evolution should only be allowed in schools as Creationism is, as a special after school activity.

Gabbylittleangel #fundie christianforums.net

[regarding the question of fossil evidence and what happened to Dinosaurs]

Believe it or not, this is one of the topics that I discussed with the Lord. gators and crocks, yes. So are elephants and Rhinoceros's (Praise God for spellcheck )

Some of the things that God revealed to me was that they were not vicious. The big guy with the huge pointy teeth? He ate trees. There was one dino that was found that scientist had believed had swallowed another dinosaur whole? He did not. She was pregnant. They did not lay eggs, they gave live birth, like rhinos do today.
Well, except for the big bird thingy. And unlike its Hollywood and Japanese film counterparts, they had feathers.

Why are they gone? The Lord says that there were not all that many of them to begin with. They were on the ark. And they simply did not reproduce after the flood rapidly enough to survive. With the exception of the ones that survived. Crocks, gators, elephants, rhinos.

Relic #homophobia #fundie christianforums.net

If the fools want to marry each other they will kill each other off with there spreading diseases to each other and they go about perforate each others colons, destroying each others bodies with their vile practices. No wonder the "average" life expectancy of a gay person is only 40 some odd years. [...]

If the gays think they can get away with living in such vile wicked behaviors they are sadly mistaken. And the proof is in the sad state of their affairs. They are not happy people. Not at all. They run from facing the root of their problems in life and think that they will find happiness in some perverted form of being which is outside of God's Holy Will for mankind. They mock and shake their fist at God. For shame. [...]

The homosexual "of today" is liken to an birth defect of epidemic proportions from out of society that sprung out of the outlandish liberal mindedness of the 60's generation. This too shall pass. They sick perverted demands of the gay community will not prevail. [...]

These people are in my prayers.

follower of Christ #fundie christianforums.net

Something that always gets me......

So many eons of evolution.......so few ''transitional'' forms..

The earth should literally be packed with the remains of these ''transitional'' forms after that period of time.

Like us YECs tho, science always can come up with some excuse for this things.
That is until thier ideas are debunked by the next guy.

Till then I guess we are to take whatever silly little notion comes out of their mouths as gospel truth, arent we