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Kyrie Eleison #fundie rr-bb.com

[on the Colorado bill concerning access to public accommodations]

Actually, we're getting to these restrooms because of the family restrooms. All this stuff gets past us one step at a time. They sell it to us in ways we will buy, and it always sounds good at first. But, c'mon, this agenda follows a pretty predictible set of steps towards setting our kids up.

When those family bathrooms popped up at a mall near all of us, some did warn that they were a stepping stone to this, because they helped to blur the line. Bathrooms should be confined to one sex. This is how we get trouble. Opposite sex people in the same restrooms.....what?.....oh, but it's for families.....how nice.? Well, no one was ever enforcing that! It's a free for all, under the ironice label of "family." How they must be howling with evil glee.

Kids love new things so they go in those so-called family bathrooms while shopping with friends at the mall.....teen girls can go in there and so can boys.....anyone can be in there.....it isn't just daddies changing diapers or helping little girls use the restroom. No one stops lone male predators from entering that bathroom, either. Welcome to the jungle. Now they can just take away the "family" pretense and say both it's a "multi" gender restroom. How sad that we have more than two genders, huh?

Lord, come quickly!

felixthecat #fundie rr-bb.com

Another thought ... the people of Iraq, are HAPPY Sadaam Insane is gone. They appreciate what we did - the majority of them. They have experienced their own religion turned against them through Sadaam Insane. I think they maybe very receptive to a kinder, gentler and more human religion that has love - not violence and hatred. We see these people very differently as well as what our priorities should be. It's okay. I'm not better than you ... we simply disagree on these issues.

ChristIsKing2008 #fundie rr-bb.com

Isnt it amazing how fast things are happening in these end times?
Earthquakes happening on a daily basis, events in the Middle East that seem to border on war, apostasy, more moral decay, gas prices higher than ever before. It makes me so excited that the Rapture is not so far away now!! Come Lord Jesus!!!!!!

logosone #fundie rr-bb.com

I hear ya Blessed! Funny ya mention Stephen King. I caught a little bit of one of the dozens of films that have been made from his writing's last night. No doubt he has single handedly spread more demonic based fear and unclean thoughts and themes than practically anyone in media. He ranks right up there with Ozzy and Manson, yet he somehow gets a reprieve because it's deemed 'literature'.

Chula #fundie rr-bb.com

I side with mercy and grace as far as my beliefs go. I used to listen to Art Bell becuase the strange and unusual makes for fun entertainment sometimes. however, let's be honest, as Christians, we are not to let our minds dwell on these things such as UFO's and "space aliens". Why? It's fun isn't it? No, not really. You see our minds are not that complex and when we open ourselves up to these thoughts, then our minds can cross over into the strong illusion that the Bible talks about.

Like I said, it's fun to some degree, to think about but let's not go there as members of the Christian Faith, we are above all the mirk and mire of this world

Janae #fundie rr-bb.com

I stay on top of stories pertaining to aliens and UFO's BECAUSE I believe that they are part of the delusion, not because I think that they are "fun". Truth be told, they scare me-there are too many people out there being caught up in the lies and the deceit. I prefer to stay informed so that I can come to these people well-informed....we are of course above the mirk and mirth of this world, but we need to know what others are being pulled into so that we can help them. Just one glance at Oprah's show tells us how very big this New Age movement is, and will, become. We need to be prepared.

And I know that Christ will keep me seperate from it all. He will keep me close to Him. If you are looking at the alien thing as fun and entertainment, that's one thing, but how can we help others when we're not aware of what we're walking into? It's the same as reseaching the faith of a Jehovah's Witness, or a Muslim's......there's always the dark possibilibty of being drawn in, but I trust in the Lord. He won't let me

AnnOdom44 #fundie rr-bb.com

I would vote for death by firing squad, using people who aren't good shots, like me, and it would take a while for a fatal wound. That may sound on the harse side, but death by lethal injection is the easy way out. However, that being said, we also need to be praying for their salvation.

RebMel #fundie rr-bb.com

(Alien thread):


I think the people that are really buying into the whole thing, and actually think these entities are from another planet will find what they are looking for.
Just like the occult if an unsaved person goes looking for it they will find it.

I had a second cousin who was somehow as a child taken from a relatives home and became possesed, I guess she had many problems through her young life and then when she was about 19 her mother killed her in what was called a murder suicide, that took place in the home of the family on the church grounds the father and husband was a baptist minister.

Whatever she became in that home that day her mother evidently had to kill , so yeah I believe these aliens are straight out of hell.

BlessedAssurance #fundie rr-bb.com

Just wanted to post that I've watched the 4 part series [They Sold Their Souls for Rock and Roll], and am, in general, horrified. But also convicted...my mother told us all that stuff in the 80s when my brother was into all of it. She went through "Stairway to Heaven" line-by-line explaining the pagan/Satanic influences and innuendoes. She watched MTV with him (and my sis and me) and pointed out the symbology the bands used.

However, she never made him destroy his records. We talk now about why he abandoned our family, why he never talked about his salvation or love for Jesus. About how fascinated he was with magic, Stephen King and the occult. Now I know. I firmly believe that he's one of Satan's. I'll be praying for my brother to throw off the evil one. If some of you wouldn't mind, his name is Robert.

Freed From Sin #fundie rr-bb.com

Frankly, we should have been preaching the Word from the moment we liberated the place. We came in the name of love and peace into Iraq, and the most loving thing that anyone did for me was to introduce me to Jesus.

So why are we surprised that the place is still full of hate and violence? The root of all the violence over there is their moon religion, Islam. That's a sure sign that this is a false religion - people fighting and killing over it.

We could have spread the word of Jesus and salvation and be halfway to getting that violence under control by now. Unlike the filthy muslims, we don't have to convert people at the point of a gun. I bet that coin already has that town talking and maybe even looking up stuff about Jesus. If only that brave Marine could have gotten back out there, he could have sealed the deal. Of course, our politically correct politicians would have fainted.

CHRISTinCheryl #fundie rr-bb.com

Option #1--accept and submit to HIM now..be raptured and escape the horrors of the Tribulation..

Option # 2-accept and submit to HIM during the Tribulation and then youll most likely get your head cut off, unless you die first from a major catastrophe

Option # 3- never accept or submit to HIM, be thrown in the Lake of Fire

JESUS is love and is so wonderful, for the life of me I dont understand the blindness over most peoples eyes....he created us and only wants to bless us and spend etenity with us in a new Paradise on earth....
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Neila #fundie rr-bb.com

What if he placed the coins around on the ground? Someone could find one, read the message, and think it was a sign from God. That way, the marine would not have been caught disobeying those pesky regulations. He could spread the message to the locals while appearing neutral to his superiors. I don't know...just an idea.

sherrimae #fundie rr-bb.com

[at Friendswood Jr High...as part of a yearlong study of respect, tolerance and culture... The guest speakers discussed Muslim culture, including topics such as food, religion, dress, beliefs and famous Muslims.]

I do not think that teaching anything about Islam or muslims is a good thing. I would certainly want to know if this was going on so I could pull my child out of the class that day. We are not rich but I would consider working overtime to pay for a lawsuit if anything like this happened at my daughter's school. And I have already stated educating my children about the evils of Islam so they will not be deceived. [...]

ScoobyDoo #fundie #homophobia rr-bb.com

The problems with your statement are bolded. Its not really about what you think or feel, but what God thinks and has said in His Word. He has called homosexuality an abomination and therefore that is what it is. He also said all homosexuals will have a place in the Lake of Fire. Those are not wishy washy words. But words of holiness and truth from a Holy God. Man will do what is right in his own eyes. The Word of God says that in the last days man will call evil good and good evil. And so it goes. The Lord's Word will stand over anything man says. May God be true and every man a liar!

lyngraphics #fundie rr-bb.com

[I agree. This wasn't done in the United States but in a foreign, muslim nation by a U.S. military person. There is a time and place to share the gospel, and this wasn't it.]

If he was led by the Lord to do so, then he was doing his TRUE duty.

RDY4HIM #fundie rr-bb.com

A little off the topic, but did anyone see the article about an Indian Tribe that was discovered (apparently had never had contact with anyone outside the tribe). Maybe this was the last group of people that need to hear the Gospel. I'd like a mailing address please so we can get on with this!

cbressler1976 #fundie rr-bb.com

I have a question....I don't read anything, but the bible because I love God so much and I don't want to offend him....but I watching a movie...and I didn't realize it, but it ended up being about a family who knew the man who wrote the book of mormon...what is this book about? what does it say? I know that it IS NOT from God...in the bible, it says to add nothing and take nothing away from it, so I know that this is a false book....but I'm curious as to what it says...just like I was curious about the quoran...I don't and will never believe it, but I just wanted to know what is so different about it...did this man say that God gave him more to add to the bible? ...or did he rewrite the bible? I believe that the devil has angels...and these angels fooled him into thinking it was from God....the same with the quran...the devil will do anything to get people away from the bible...anyway, what do mormons believe...what is different about the book of mormon? thanks!

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I found a very good web site that stated what the difference is between the bible and the book of mormon...
The devil never gives up! It saddens my heart that so many people believe in this garbage... I pray that God will show them that the bible is the only truth!

Beautiful Feet #fundie rr-bb.com

Like it or not, UFOs are going to be a part of newspaper headlines more and more in the years to come--possibly days to come. We will see more and more threads about these things on this board. We have had more articles on the subject this past week than what we have had during the past year. Some folks on Rapture Ready may not like the subject--but hey--it isn't going away. It is not ever going to go away. It is only going to get more and more and more intense.

...I have had family members and friends in the Air Force deal with this subject and have to treat it seriously. There have been serious mysterious manifestations that have concerned many of our pilots. Get out the tinfoil hats but it is a fact.

I prayed throughout my teenage years for God to show me the truth and I believe he has. These sightings are related to the last days and to the Great Delusion.

...What you are seeing are some of the darkest demonic forces to enter our dominion and it is no joke.

...Paul tells us to have an answer ready for our faith.

IMO, the answer isn't this is a joke. The answer is believe in Jesus Christ. He will give you eyes to see and ears to hear. The devil is about to release one of the greatest lies in history. Don't follow it. Don't follow dark angels.

Daniel #fundie rr-bb.com

Wouldn’t be nice to know if just one of those coins planted a seed that will grow to a muslim finding faith in Jesus. On the other hand, the angered residents who rejected the seed will have an eternity in hell to think about the missed opportunity.

BAGHDAD - The U.S. military confirmed May 29 that a Marine in Fallujah passed out coins with Gospel verses on them to Sunni Muslims, a military spokesman in the Iraqi city said. The man was immediately removed from duty and reassigned.

The coins angered residents who said they felt that the American troops, whom they consider occupiers, were also acting as Christian missionaries in a predominantly Muslim nation.

bride_of_christ #fundie rr-bb.com

I know that the internet is filled with 'lies' and 'truths', but one has to question how much of this stuff is true. Especially when it pertains to Obama. I have been checking out Muslim message boards, and other places. It really does appear that this could be America's final year as a free nation.

I am not trying to worry anyone, but I get so discouraged seeing how so many Christians are falling for this man's lies. Please, lets pray for God's divine intervention. If we aren't raptured before this man is elected, then we are truly in for some hard times. I hope that I am just being paranoid, but I am pretty sure that this is why I started feeling a spiritual uneasiness about America's future a couple of years back. I wasn't into politics then. What's that tell ya?

waiting1 #fundie rr-bb.com

Also isn't it amazing when it comes to ones health and they come down with a fatal disease they will do whatever it takes to get cured! But the fatal disease of an "unsaved soul" people will avoid Dr. Jesus Christ like the plague go figure that one given the end result is eternal!

lilbitsyspider #fundie rr-bb.com

[RE: the Christian marine in trouble for proselytizing to Muslim Iraqi citizens... it starts so good...]

If he was on duty he should be held accountable for his actions. If he was off duty then he shouldn't be handing tracks out at such a vulnerable place making a distraction opening the check point to be more vulnerable. But if the spirit had prompted him to do this, then he must submit to Gods' will. Who knows which one of those muslims might convert and cause a domino effect as a result of those coins. He needs our prayer and support not condemnation, no matter what your understanding of the constitution says.
GOD first, everything and anything other than Him is just static.

jadeeyes #fundie rr-bb.com

I think that's very possible. I also think that it is very possible that the church will be in heaven as the 70th week will be under way. If we are still here in 10 years because the rapture has not occurred yet, I think life will be very different for us than it is now. I think home schooling will be illegal in all 50 states and homsexual marriages will be the law of the land. I believe that the only churches operating "above ground" will be those that have been licensed by the state and will not be allowed to criticize other religious groups, alternative lifestyles or preach Jesus as the only Way. I believe sharing Christ will result in losing our children, confiscation of property and prison terms for the undeterred. I think it's also likely that Christians will have to wear or carry an identifier, so people will know to avoid us and employers will not hire us. I believe forced euthanasia will be the law of the land for the elderly, the mentally ill, the physically handicapped and anyone the state considers to be a "useless eater". Wild weather will become the norm and a day without a huge disaster will be a rarity.

mercyandgrace #fundie rr-bb.com

Michelle and Barak are disciples of Jeremiah Wright and the Black Liberation Theology, which is Marxism.

Combine that with their victimhood mindset, and voila.

It's no wonder that Barak has support from the majority of the black community.

Boash #fundie rr-bb.com

[A RRite reacting to the story about a Marine forcing coins with Bible quotes upon Iraqi]

It is God before country, my son leaves Monday for Marine boot camp. I am remidning him of that as he leaves. Serve to that absolute best of your ability, but never forget whom you serve first.

jadeeyes #fundie rr-bb.com

If we are still here in 10 years because the rapture has not occurred yet, I think life will be very different for us than it is now. I think home schooling will be illegal in all 50 states and homsexual marriages will be the law of the land. I believe that the only churches operating "above ground" will be those that have been licensed by the state and will not be allowed to criticize other religious groups, alternative lifestyles or preach Jesus as the only Way. I believe sharing Christ will result in losing our children, confiscation of property and prison terms for the undeterred. I think it's also likely that Christians will have to wear or carry an identifier, so people will know to avoid us and employers will not hire us. I believe forced euthanasia will be the law of the land for the elderly, the mentally ill, the physically handicapped and anyone the state considers to be a "useless eater". Wild weather will become the norm and a day without a huge disaster will be a rarity.

Heartstorm #fundie rr-bb.com

I am SO lucky that my DD is 100% into horses !!! She wears only jeans and boots and " Cowgirl Up " stuff !!! The only problem we have is her T-shirts they are to short and will ride up to show tummy if we are not carefull so she puts them on and raises her arms to make sure they long enough !!! And ofcourse any words on them are horse related !!! OR Christian, Her favorite is ... " I am a princess cuz my Father is King of Kings "

Theresa #fundie rr-bb.com

[Re: a rapture question... would you choose to stay behind if you had the option?]

No No No

There is nothing new under the sun. Everyone gets the chance to choose or reject Jesus as their Lord and Savior. I would not choose to stay behind even for a loved family member. In fact, my being raptured might be the thing that cements their need to turn to Christ - kind of like an "I told you so" after I'm gone.

Mickey #fundie rr-bb.com

Heard over the news this morning that he [the marine who handed out christian coins in Fallujah] is already in trouble. .I have been praying for this blessed soldier. I have so much respect for him, and the love I felt for him when I heard this was overwhelming. He is our brother in Christ, so I lift him, and all those who are to sharing the Gospel up to Jesus for His protection and guidance. You as a Country should feel so Blessed to have soldiers like this!

In my prayers and in my heart dearest soldier! You are not only a soldier for America, but also a Soldier for Christ!

Logosone #fundie rr-bb.com

Lyrics aside, there is quite a bit of study out here on the effect of rythym and percussion. A lot of it has roots directly to African Voodoo and the trance states produced with drums opening a subconscious portal for spirits. The rythym of stringed instruments also has a similar effect. Jimmy Page is a master of the guitar riff and it is a major part of the Led Zeppelin sound (along with the heavy drum sound he produced for their records) and all metal music which he heavily influenced. Page was a total devotee of Crowley, practicing black magik and actually lives in his old castle. Doesn't get any creepier than that!

Sing4Him #fundie #homophobia rr-bb.com

Dear babygirldueinjune,

You have received an infraction at Rapture Ready.

Reason: Rapture Ready Rule Violation
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05] Do not promote anything non-Christian or unscriptural. Do not sign up to attack the Christian faith in disguise of wanting to learn, or questioning the Christian faith as an agnostic, atheist, religious philosopher, or cult member for the entertainment of arguments and debates. Our primary focus is current prophecy, not attacking the true Christian fundamentals in apologetics.

Message reported: It's my personal belief homosexuality isn't a choice. If it was, why do so many homosexuals try to repress it and fight it? I'm not saying it isn't some sort of disorder, I'm just saying I don't believe it's a choice.

About your brother, I'm sorry to hear about his rejecting Christ, but it's his life. Would you like it if he tried to convert you to his religion? It's okay to want him to come back, but I'm very big on not pushing loved ones away. They could leave, and never talk to you again.

Hope In Him #fundie rr-bb.com

A couple of you stated that you have seen the looks on others faces and know that it is a dieing world...what I have notice lately is dieing America. (Is that selfish to think of where America is versus the world?) I find myself increasingly heartbroken over the loss of my country. America was so good. And I feel so honored to have been chosen to live my life here. Yet, the past two weeks as I attended my youngest neice's band concert and my oldest neice graduation...I cried. I cried for our way of live that seems to be slipping away. The loss of the America I grew up with, the values, our stregthen, our faith and our goodness is fading away and something else is taking that place. I know that America has never been perfect but what an honor and gift to have lived my life in this amazing place. It breaks my heart to see the way we are changing, the less proud we are of our country as a whole, the less we stand for our Christain heritage...the more the tarnish emerges. So sad. My sister kept looking at me..."are you crying again???" Yepper! All I could think about is how long before, we can't stand and say the Pledge or sing the National Athem...or those millions of other little traditions that make up the fabric of our American lives?

Jubilee on Earth #fundie rr-bb.com

I was at a grocery store today and saw a dying world. From the old music that i've heard millions of times to the same old stuff they have been selling for years to the tired faces of the cashiers. I could tell that it won't be long until all the goodness and vitality is sapped out of this world and we are taken out of here.

Amanda's mom #fundie rr-bb.com

I've been saying that God is trying to get our attention for years, since back when things started heating up in the early part of the decade. Unfortunately, I think people's hearts are hardening rather than turning to God. I've been praying that the disasters in China and Myanmar will be opportunities for God's people to turn hearts. I pray the same for the disasters here in the US.

BLESSED BEYOND BELIEF #fundie rr-bb.com

[Originally Posted by Glory in print:
In my opinion the catholic church, and the catholic church's false teachings have shut the kingdom of heaven in mens faces for hundreds of years...]

That is why the 'Dark Ages' are called the Dark Ages. They locked up the Scriptures so no one had access to them.

BLESSED BEYOND BELIEF #fundie rr-bb.com

I would like to ask a question if I may? Is any bathing suit appropriate? I have not been able to wear one for 28 years. (ever since I have been saved) I am alone in this but I honestly don't understand why it is permissible to wear something that just barely covers part of our body and I cannot imagine wearing it in front of the opposite sex. Because cultures and society changes does this mean that we can??

Julian4jc #fundie rr-bb.com

Quote:
People can find just about anything offensive - it doesn't mean that there's even the slightest logical reason for them to do so
I agree!


In their mind it's logical enough to cause them to be offended, and thats what matters. If the producers would avoid mocking any religion none would be offended. I am sure there are many other ways they can introduce humor into the show, as i noticed they are doing that but they are mixing it up with religion humor, including taking passages out of the bible out of context who some believe including myself, it's The Word of God. Why so personal?


Religion is very personal with some people, as we both know some kill in her name. Hollywood needs to avoid attacking christianity and all other religions by all means. The producers have left me the imprssion they are purposely using these types of shows to entertain the secular "non-Christian" masses despite knowing it will offend the Christian minority.

Us Christians are thought to "turn the other chick" and Hollywood knows our lack of response to criticism (unlike the Muslims who behead anyone who mocks their religion) Therefore they allow it because it makes most people laugh, such as yourself who might not find mocking any type of religion offensive as some of us Christians do.

Goldie #fundie rr-bb.com

It seems to me that things are getting worse by the day. Just when we think it can`t get any worse, some new thing comes up, and it gets a LOT worse. Again. Gas prices. The weather. The crime rate. Tornadoes, hurricanes. The desperation of mankind...

It occured to me this morning that this must be God`s way of bringing people in, so time can end, as He promised us it would.

We, God`s own people, will be alright. He fed us once with manna, and He can do it again. But a lot of people - probably MOST people - do not even know God.

People will turn to God in a heartbeat when things get desperate enough - or when THEY get desperate enough. So I`m thinking this is God`s way of working everything out - money shortages, food shortages, gasoline shortages, employment shortages, etc. And come winter there will be a heat shortage, I`m sure, for many of us.

So we need to pray, really, fervently pray, that things go on and happen as they should, that men get so desperate that they turn to God.

Because God will not shorten time and let us go home until every man, woman and child who is going to be saved, is saved.

A BELIEVER #fundie rr-bb.com

If you deny Jesus you deny that God exist. Jesus is the son of God, if you don't believe Jesus was born of a virgin, died for sins, his father rose him from the grave. You my friend are HELL bound. Jesus said "I AM THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT NO MAN MAY COME TO THE FATHER EXCEPT BY ME"

If any church preaches, teaches from other text (Bible KJV) you are not being taught from God's words. If you use any other bible (YOU ARE COMPRISEING) Muslim, Buddism, Mormon, Hindu and yes the Roman Catholic Church to name a few deny Christ are use a different bible.

Some say we are to comprise, that is NOT taught by Jesus.You either believe are not. The KJ was written as our way to live, not to take the part(s) we want. We are to live by it. We all sin everyday and we were born as sinners. There will be NO COMPRISE to enter Heaven. If you don't know Jesus you will be told "And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you; depart from me, ye works of inquity"

bride_of_christ #fundie rr-bb.com

(A thread about The Simpsons)

Originally Posted by Ace Attorney
Frankly, I'm hoping God has enough of a sense of humour to see that the episode was hilarious.

bride_of_christ:
Oh God has a sense of humor alright. However, when it comes to mockery, no, God does not have a sense of humor. He will have the last laugh, but it won't be because of some stupid cartoon show. No, it will be because these people will soon learn the truth whether they want to accept it or not.

It may just be a cartoon show to you, but if I remember correctly, Hollywood has a lot of impact on our country's young minds. Just look at the news, that says it all. This is not something to be taken lightly.

Reason&Hope #fundie rr-bb.com

Every time I hear of one of these disasters, such as the one in Burma (where we support missionaries), I pray that people would look to God, that Christians would be able to dispense God's Word as well as water and food, that the Holy Spirit would be working in the people's hearts.

I, too, feel that God uses these disasters and other causes of suffering to wake people up to their need of Him -- and with the increasing number of disasters around the world, I feel like God is making a few last passes around the world, calling those who will be His Bride before the Wedding Day (aka Rapture).

NewWine06 #fundie rr-bb.com

I can imagine that in the event our personal effects ARE left behind there would be plenty of folks who would make a mad dash for "abandoned" wallets/purses, etc.

I can just imagine how that would feel to be an opportunistic petty thief who "takes advantage" of the ensuing chaos and along with "the loot" they come upon your tribulation Map. Pretty sobering thought.

Sydney Spider #fundie rr-bb.com

I'm inclined to think that anything in or on our person will disappear in the Rapture. It wouldn't be very dignified to have people stumbling across our underwear. If you were to say that things like pacemakers and teeth fillings will be left behind, you would also have to apply that principle to undigested food because it hasn't become part of your 'person' yet. Urk! Not a nice thought, eh? So I reckon everything on or in does the zappo too.

abidingvine #fundie rr-bb.com

I was doing counseling with victims of sexual assault at a secular agency. Yes, I understand that what a woman wears has nothing to do with "traitional" rape (which is a matter of control and/or anger, not sex), but after talking to some of these women, I got to wondering what ever happened to common sense. Young women would go out with guys wearing clothing that left little or nothing to the imagination, have quite a few drinks, go back to the guy's place....then call us to complain that they'd been "assaulted!" Hello? You dress like a streetwalker, both of you get drunk....what did you THINK he was asking you to his apartment for - a Bible study?

I suggested to the head of the organization that we start a City-wide campaign, along the lines of, "If you want to be treated like a lady, try dressing like one." There IS a campaign with billboards and signs on the sides of buses about waiting until marriage before having sex (from a different agency); I wanted to take it a step further. Guess what? Virtually ALL the (female) counselors had a fit when I suggested such a thing; they claimed they had a "right" to wear anything they want! I tried the tact of, "Doesn't it bother you to have your husbands looking at all these half-naked girls?", to which I was told, "If my husband can't control himself, that's HIS problem!"

I really couldn't continue on there - they were "helping" girls after the fact, but doing nothing to prevent them being assaulted in the first place - it was like pulling out a band-aid after telling someone it was OK to stick her hand in a chainsaw. (And let me reiterate, because I always get a lot of flak on this - what a woman wears has NOTHING to do with traditional rape; I'm talking about date rape, so-called sexual assault, and driving a man - when both parties are often drunk and/or on drugs - into a frenzy, then primly saying, "No means no!") Because these women have no common sense, men's lives are litterally being destroyed with criminal records that will follow them the rest of their days.

abidinginvine #fundie rr-bb.com

You see, the problem isn't just with "worldly" women. I attended a special program for adult students at a conservative Christian college. I needed a few more electives, so thought a course in Popular Culture would be fun. My final presentation was on fashion, with an emphasis on overly-provocative clothing (including for small children - there's actually a "look" called "prostitot") and the WOMEN (all claiming to be "Christian", mind you) had a fit! Once again I heard the cry of, "We have the RIGHT to wear anything we want!" I tried to explain the effect on men, who are visual creatures, and told them they were causing these men to sin, but they didn't want to listen; I made several enemies that day! Ironically, after the class almost all of the MEN came up to me and thanked me, saying it was nice to see someone understands!

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