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Vlad and his ilk #fundie religionethics.co.uk

The term microaggressions is a good word. I think it is a good explanatory for why a secular society less interested in morality than utility can get exercised over major and public ''sins'' but ignore less obvious, underlying, insipid and indeed personal faults.

Lying, petty prejudice, greed, dishonesty and abuse of power are becoming more acceptable and applauded
and we are left with few unforgiveables against which people can stand themselves against and look and feel like saints and people who don't need much moral introspection.

Sassy #fundie religionethics.co.uk

The Economy is in for a rough ride because if people have no money they cannot buy.
A piece of bread could buy a bag of God. The poor in our Country have had their benefits cut and the Government lie in their false claims of what people actually receive.

If God suddenly decided to remove the food chain where would they be?

We are being undermined by the Government. As a believer God owns everything.

NicholasMark #fundie religionethics.co.uk


Moving on with the science behind Jesus Christ’ electric/spiritual universe—we should now know that in the beginning, represented here by the righteous ‘word’ of Almighty God—we now have the entire universe responding to some powerful shock-waves created by the very first radio signals, amplifying outwards, the product of the collision force of two, dense cores, themselves the centres of two dynamic clouds of indestructible dynamic energy, of which there were already trillions that had been drifting around the great void of space for all eternity.

The consequences of this, was, that all of these mass-less clouds were hurtling outward at the speed of the expanding universe and all spinning up into terrible hurricane storms. Some clouds crashed into other clouds creating a galaxy with a slightly different footprint but the norm would lead to spiral-galaxies with a massive black-hole at their centre—representing the surviving remnant of the power-house that created all the stars that were to be processed by it.

Something very strange was taking place because lying on top of that static pre-big-bang dimension of the universe was now a high-speed dimension and laws that had never existed previously were about to be born.

NicholasMarks #fundie religionethics.co.uk

My own, Biblical understanding jjohnjil is that at least two of these gigantic clouds of dynamic energy merged together and because they were much denser at their centres they created the first law in science...those cores were forced to find the central position of these merging electrical clouds. The first universal Hadron collider came into existence as these cores hurtled towards each other and smashed headlong, one into the other...Now science can really begin because a number of behaviour patterns would simultaneously take place...Powerful shock waves spreading out from that collision point in space would send all other surrounding clouds hurtling outwards as science says they do now, and each one would be spinning up into a violent hurricane force with many tornadoes forming within them.

Science, as we now know it, is just one step away...but Almighty God got there first.

NicholasMark #fundie religionethics.co.uk

Of course you can't cus it doesn't exist. That doesn't mean it is wrong it means that I have to decide how I will publish it...and quite honestly I'm not too impressed with your scientific institutions...who tell you everything came from nothing.

Perhaps it might be best to slowly introduce it to those who need that knowledge most...and, of course, the righteous, who are living that science here and now.

It doesn't take too much logic to realise that our only currently known resistance to gravity is our muscular strength so that the constant down force will play havoc with the human body if that uplift counter pressure is lost and in many cases of ill health, it is. This is why it is important to upbuild within us a righteous spirit exactly how Jesus taught...then...maybe...we too will walk on water...though I don't recommend it.

NicholasMarks #fundie religionethics.co.uk


Hi Sweet Pea—Thank you for your very kind greeting and thank you for the opportunity to speak civilly on my Biblically discovered ‘dynamic energy’ of such vital importance. You see, science is looking at it all wrong. They have all the facts and the mechanics but they are putting it together all wrong.

It is all very complicated and I try to make it as simple as possible but even that isn’t simple enough—but it is all supported by Jesus’ accurate teaching so there is no need to understand what I say, we just need to follow Jesus Christ accurately.

NicholasMarks #fundie religionethics.co.uk


I know it is difficult for you bluehillside...especially as you have now locked yourself into a position that would cause you great discomfort to back off from...but let's back off a little...I have told you and anyone else who will listen that the universe is made from an electric material...this I justify by pointing out there is trillions upon trillions of megatons of electric energy contained within trillions upon trillions of electric furnaces (stars)...neither you or science can dispute this claim.

That energy bursting out of every star didn't just get their...certain mechanics put it there...this is also taught in the Holy Bible and sadly for you most of what else I say is as well. So...the highest authority in the universe according to many taught us special righteous laws to benefit us from this energy...you cannot deny this because the account of Jesus Christ is well recorded and millions have found great comfort and faith from traumas and circumstances of an extremely dire nature...now, just wanting to rubbish that link with humanity you are bullying those who want a more peaceful existence as expressed by Jesus' teaching...so...top and bottom of it...you are leaving it too late to be safeguarded against the impending danger presented by Wormwood.

I am beginning to realise that the anti-Christ written of in the Holy Bible that will raise its ugly head in the last days is the personification of the body of people who are attracted to the doctrine and philosophy that there is no Christ even though the full force of evidence says there is.

NicholasMarks #fundie religionethics.co.uk

Let's look at this another way bluehillside...Let's say, after 2000 years you are invited to enter into a place of great safety providing you have the most up to date protection...which, as it turns out, is simply a coat of armour made out of a spiritual/electric force because then you will fit in nicely with those who are also wearing that same electric/spiritual protection. There is a terrible danger looming and you see no harm in trying to wing it a bit with those who offered the armour along with an undertaking from you that you will merit wearing it. But...and here is the rub...that spiritual armour is the mechanics by which salvation is achieved...no armour equals no protection...so no winging it.

It's really is as simple as that...that is how Judgment works...the fact that someone who sees the need for this armour recommends you listen accurately to the owner of that promise is secondary...but there we go.

NicholasMarks #fundie religionethics.co.uk

Well bluehillside...you don't deny that the Holy Bible exists do you?

So point one is that it does exist and it is filled with wonderful messages, with wonderful promises to those who can gently see through all the brain washing and misinformation of those who choose not to believe in it. It's all there...in that sacred writing plus many other wonderful claims.

Among those claims is the one where God says...through Isaiah, that all the stars are made from a wonderful dynamic energy or God's Mighty Power...now, 4000 years later, we find that scientists are saying everything is energy and it is blatantly obvious that all the stars are electric furnaces performing electrical manoeuvres that are yet not fully understood.

I can help...but I will do it in my own time...or rather, as I feel inspired to tell you.

Science says that all the fundamental forces in the universe must unify into one set of reasoning...well there it is, in black and white...Almighty God is the pivot point from where all this complex stuff has unification...but Jesus Christ showed us more than just science...he taught the mechanics behind resurrection and I am afraid you will have to humble yourself a little to come even close. So here are 3 very good reasons why you should believe in Jesus Christ and Almighty God...the 4th is Wormwood.

NicholasMarks #fundie religionethics.co.uk

My strength comes from the fact that Jesus Christ lived, died and was resurrected telling us special things about this universe and when put under the microscope and pitted against modern science we find that science comes a poor second. The mass in the universe must have followed one pattern and one pattern alone to give us what is here now and putting all this together in one understandable teaching requires much of that wonderful strength, exposed by those mechanics, and that Jesus guides us to.

Wormwood and associated stellar bodies are well taught about in Revelation and a strike by such a body is argued to be the reason that governments are building their own protection against it surreptitiously, and at great expense. The Holy Bible tells us to follow Jesus accurately and know that the same mechanics that saved him will also be at our disposal...either with your approval, bluehillside, or without it. 

NicholasMarks #fundie religionethics.co.uk

Also...if we are talking about the approaching star system called Nemesis many star watchers are displaying many photo signs of its approach on the web, but, it seems, to spare us the hassle of worrying or preparing us for it they...certain knowing governments are destroying the facts with avoidance, confusion, and misinformation tactics, whilst they build various underground bunkers of massive proportions...That is...if you believe the evidence of those who have come to believe that global warming, severe magnetic-field disturbances, and the drastic climate change phenomena...in fact...all the great tribulations foretold from within the Holy Bible are a direct result of its approach.

So...your government wont tell you or save you but Almighty God will...but I'm afraid that salvation requires us to follow Jesus Christ accurately.

NicholasMarks #fundie religionethics.co.uk

Evolution will be a valid science when we are in receipt of the wonderful electric forces that are involved. There is a terrific leap between righteous man and the monkey. Here is how it goes..planet Earth became void and all life lost but Almighty God wouldn't leave it that way. Knowing all the key elements were alreay within the planet he restarted it then reached into the dirt and took a hand full of dna already in the earth...doctored it and started a new era..a new beginning...you must read the Holy Bible.

NicholasMarks #fundie religionethics.co.uk

According to my understanding prayer must be sent on a particular radio frequency compatible with Jesus Christ's accurate teaching...ie...humble, righteous, in meekness and with respect to the authority tuning into those prayers. Prayers made from a quiet place out of earshot of others. Mass chanting and repetition without these requirements, sadly, are not heard...but God knows that the only requirement needed from prayer is the strength and understanding to cope with our calamities and this is freely available, by return, in the form of God's righteous strength, achieved by studying righteousness and righteous prayer. 

NicholasMarks #fundie religionethics.co.uk

It is using modern engineering logic plus scientific insight to make Jesus' teaching 21st century. We know that electric energy requires a generating force and we know that all the behaviour, both thought and physical activity, in life, burns electric energy...and because there is common understanding between these things and what Jesus tells us we can deduce that our spiritual/electric nature is the same substance generated from an indestructible source...providing we keep our replicating body cells in good order...or under repair when in bad order.

Which ever way you turn we need the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ...as he alone taught it.

NicholasMarks #fundie religionethics.co.uk

Your refusal to accept that we are living in an electric/spiritual universe where all the laws of physics have at their root electric/spiritual laws means you will have difficulty with anything I say. The fact that any religion exists at all is testimony that people suspect they have an electric/spiritual nature and try to express it in many different ways...but...the laws of physics that unify all the electric spiritual fundamental laws leads us to just one conclusion...the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ is the accurate teaching.

NicholasMarks #fundie religionethics.co.uk

You are stuck on that old evolution thing which gives us no clues what-so-ever to how the human being sprung from the loins of a monkey. Better to believe what the Holy Bible says, that Almighty God made us and made us fit for the the environment that had already supported life but had become void with darkness on the face of the watery deep. Then we can say that every expression we make is a spiritual/electric expression and this is what guides us...but Jesus Christ, who is far more advanced than us, guides us best.

NicholasMarks #fundie religionethics.co.uk

'soon', here, means, 'no one knows the hour or the day but Almighty God who resides in Heaven'. But we know that it is linked in with Wormwood...the lake of fire and brimstone...and this force appears to be a part of the Nemesis star system whose presence has suddenly come into sharp focus and is being blamed for global warming, magnetic disturbances and all the serious climate disturbance involving millions of people...but don't get concerned because you don't seem to want to change 'soon' enough...and your salvation demands that you do.

Alan Burns #fundie religionethics.co.uk

I recall these events as they happened without exaggeration or fabrication.

It was Tuesday July 26th. My wife, daughter and I were preparing to embark on a two week holiday in Skiathos, Greece. We were to be picked up at 1:30am in a taxi to travel to Manchester airport for an early morning flight.

A few days before, I had started to experience some pain when passing urine. It had happened before, but passed off in a day or two, but this time it did not pass off. It was getting more painful, more urgent and more frequent. At 11pm I started passing blood. I had to face the reality that I was in no condition to travel and would have to cancel the holiday and seek urgent medical attention. Then ...

Words come into my head saying "Just lie down and pray the Rosary". I have nothing to lose, so I lay on the bed and start silently reciting the sorrowful mysteries of the Holy Rosary. As I pray, all the pain and discomfort drift away and I am covered with a blanket of reassurance telling me that all will be well. As I start on the glorious mysteries, I am so comfortable that I have to make an effort to keep awake. While I am praying, my wife joins me for a lie down, oblivious of the drama I have experienced. On finishing the Glorious mysteries, I drift off to a peaceful sleep. I wake up at 1am in time to prepare for the taxi. I take the two and a half hour taxi ride to Manchester without a single toilet stop. Just two hours earlier I had been weeing blood every five minutes. During the three and a half hour flight I make just one toilet trip, free from pain and blood and I look forward to what turns out to be a wonderful holiday.

So I humbly give thanks and praise to God for this amazing answer to prayer.

People will inevitably ask the question : "Why does God answer my prayers and not other people's?" All I can say is that whenever I put my faith and trust in God, prayers do get answered. I am convinced that faith is the key which unlocks the power of prayer.

postscript: When we arrived in Greece I told my wife of the drama I experienced. She was shocked and amazed, and made me promise to see a doctor when we returned home. The doctor confirmed that I had a urinary tract infection, and I was given a course of antibiotics to clear it up, but she offered no explanation for the two week respite which allowed me to enjoy our holiday.

Ad_orientem #fundie religionethics.co.uk

The Gospels tell us that God instituted a new covenant. Christ shows us that the Jews didn't understand God's covenant with Abraham at all. They are slaves to law and will be condemned bybthe law unless they convert to Christ. Circumcision of the flesh is not necessary to be a descendent of Abraham. Faith in Jesus Christ and a circumcised heart through baptism in the name of the Holy Trinity is what makes us descendents of Abraham.

SweetPea #fundie religionethics.co.uk

Not really. For sometime I was into New Age beliefs where consciousness represented God. Terms used such as, God consciousness, Christ consciousness and 'the Source' are all meant to refer to God. But it's a counterfeit, used by Satan to deceive.

My spiritual experiences have been received in an outward to inward manner. An example: many years ago I was walking home and about to be confronted by a group of drunkard youths. I said a silent prayer and just let go.... surrendered, put it in the hands of God, Almost immediately, a rush of wind entered within me through the top of my head and exited through the area of my chest, towards the youths. They turned in another direction. It was something that happened in literally a second, and I felt and could almost hear the 'whoosh'.

I've had other experiences but won't share any more here as they are very personal and I wouldn't like them put under the microscope.

Sassy #fundie religionethics.co.uk

If anything this thread is the perfect example of why man has not progressed. They can't get past the arguments amongst themselves long enough to examine the truth.

They attach themselves to any belief which will support their chosen belief.
Whilst truth seekers only adopt beliefs which are proven to themselves.

Not one of you are showing the intelligence you were born with. God exists and he is still the only evidence which has not been disproved. Scientist make claims and then make new claims. But never make solid claims.
Man is aware of his own mortality and animals are not. A CLEAR distinction as to why we are not animals.

But hey you are quite good at making yourself out to be buffoons and who knows maybe the animals are laughing at you in their own way. Superior in all ways but still trying to pretend you are an animal. Would animals be daft enough?
Truth is they wouldn't blooming care because they are animals they have no understanding of the argument.

Spud #fundie religionethics.co.uk

We will all die, whether by natural or other causes.
It would be nice if God prevented us from dying in the first place, but he says that we have to, because of our tendency to rebel against him. Please note that we rebelled first, so there is no use saying that he is evil and so we should rebel.
Preventing unnecessary suffering in this life is our responsibility, but he has taken steps to enable us to live after death, which meant he had to experience death himself, even though he wasn't under the death penalty. He does help people in this life, but only once did someone not see death (Enoch). Every time he helps someone it is to the end that they and others can come to faith, which is all that is needed to live after death. Maybe if you understand this then you won't hate him so much, whether or not you believe it.
Also, your use of the small 'g' is wrong. It should be used to distinguish physical objects of worship, such as the sun and the moon, or other people, or things that we idolize, from the creator of the physical world, who has a capital 'G'.

Hope #fundie religionethics.co.uk

Your argument that "there is no way on earth the things attributed to Jesus are credible" is - in part - evidence that they couldn't have been 'made-up' because, from a merely human perspective, they wouldn't have been either credible or part of the psyche.

Spud #fundie religionethics.co.uk

Supposing we could exclude this risk. For example, we can say that collectively, the gospels are a "statement against interest", since multiple documents report that first century Christians were persecuted by Jews. It is quite certain that the authors believed what they said to be true. So that's the risk of lies excluded.
We also know that numerous documents corroborate the central claim that Jesus worked miracles and was raised from the dead. Letters by the church fathers, for example. Thus it is certain that what the four evangelists report cannot be described easily as "mistakes", since it is evident that many people believed they witnessed the events described.
So really the only credible argument left for the unbeliever is that Jesus himself was the most skillful magician ever, and tricked people into thinking he had healed people and himself been raised.
Yet if this was true, then he would also be deceitful in the extreme, and we would not expect to find the things we read about his character and morality, and that of his followers.
So believing the gospels does not seem unreasonable.

Spud #fundie religionethics.co.uk

The evidence is all around, but you are suppressing it with theories like evolution. It's also in the Bible, a historical document, which you may not believe; but in order to back up the statement that you made earlier (re: me talking nonsense where faith is concerned), you need to prove that what I said is not in the Bible.

Hope #fundie religionethics.co.uk

He often does act through people - after all, a physical presence is often required, but he can work independently of humans.

We heard an amusing story of a family in Nepal whose 'allottment' (as it were) was in the middle of the area that the villagers used for their own crops. When the family became Christians, the other villagers decided to block the network of irrigation channels that ran through the area where they touched the family's plot. A week or two later, as the level of the river that fed the channels dropped and the channels dried up, the family's plot was the only one that stayed damp. This wasn't a normal yearly event; the villagers had no recollection of it happening in their life times. Somehow water was making its way underground to it, but by-passing all the other plots. They had to unblock the channels in order for the water that was reaching the one plot to reach the others. OK, it might have been coincidental, but the timing suggests that there was something more than that - what some call a God-incident.

Spud #fundie religionethics.co.uk

(Reacting to criticism of his god not saving a child from death)

It seems that the parents must have somehow been taught an immense heresy, ie that you can pray for someone to be healed without actually doing anything, expecting God to perform a miracle. So whoever has misled them in that way will hopefully be prevented from doing so again.

I made the comment this morning in the light of Romans 8:28, "And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose."

Spud #fundie religionethics.co.uk


(Further comment on having been turned down by a lesbian)

I'll throw this in as a follow up to my previous post: The reason I think I felt it was unjust for a woman I liked to prefer another woman is that she was committing an offence against the principle of a woman giving a man not only the necessary help he needs, and being given back the help she needs in life, but also the gift of procreation, which she withheld from not just me but the whole of society.

Spud #fundie religionethics.co.uk

Wanting to remain celibate is a legitimate reason for not being a partner to someone of the opposite sex. But wanting to use sex for someone of the same sex when its biological purpose is for the opposite sex, even if one is inclined that way, seems like an offense against that biological purpose and against the opposite sex.

Spud #fundie #homophobia religionethics.co.uk

It is true that the prohibition of same sex marriage would be inequality, if we assume that homosexuals who say they would never be attracted to someone of the opposite sex, know themselves fully and are correct (some do experience a change whereby this can happen).
However, even if it is inequality, and I peronally think we shouldn't assume they can never love someone if the opposite sex, there are people who for legal reasons have to accept inequality of marriage. So the question is, why should we propose that homosexuals be prohibited from marrying someone of the same sex - is there good reason to deny this to them as we would do with an already married person, for example?
An already married person would be acting unjustly towards his or her spouse and children if they married another person, unless their spouse had been unfaithful.
I can only speak from personal experience. Others may have had a similar experience, and so may understand what my point is.
I once fell in love with someone who I found out was a lesbian. Basically, there was a sense of injustice that she would love a female rather than me. I felt that I had been wronged. The feeling was different from times when a girl I had been attracted to had loved another guy. In thise instances, the feeling was disappointment but not that I had been wronged.
If you asked me to articulate why I felt it was an injustice, I would have to work through the reason. But because of that experience, I believe that it is not right to allow people to marry someone of the same sex.
Maybe this is why God says that homosexual relationships should be avoided. He made marriage for opposite sex couples - I dont agree that there is any room for interpretation of the Bible otherwise

Spud #fundie religionethics.co.uk

Put yourself in the place of a 6th century BC Israelite. He knows he has offended the creator God by joining in with the new practice of burning incense to baal. The prophet has told him that God will come to punish them. The Babylonians are at the gates of the town and he is about to be captured or worse. The Babylonians have been sent by God to punish them. Yet this Israelite only sees this because he is humble. A Canaanite town however is about to be captured by the Israelites. But the Canaanite isn't humble and so doesn't see it as God sending the Israelites in judgement.
When it says that God did something that we perceive as evil, eg send an army to slaughter men women and children, we may believe this to be evil due to a lack of humility, which prevents us from seeing the situation from God's perspective.
Hence floo's perception of God as evil.

Sassy #fundie religionethics.co.uk

As God promises us...

No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.
So anyone who sets themselves against me shall not prosper.  I personally, feel Christ shows us that God loves us in all circumstances. Not in just the good times but the bad as well. When my correction is finished then he will deal with those he used to teach me..

I remember when in my early 20's I went strawberry picking on a farm with my family.
The farmer has left barbwire amongst his crop of strawberries. It tore my skirt a few inches closer and it would have been my legs. When I pointed this out to him, I at least expected an apology and the cost of my skirt. He was smarmy and not nice the people present just walked off and did not buy their strawberries. I told him straight it will cost him more in the long run because vengeance is mine saith the LORD. The following year his whole crop of strawberries were destroyed and he never grew them again.

Vlad and his ilk #fundie religionethics.co.uk

But is the quantum vacuum from whence a thing can pop up spontaneously natural and physical?

And/or is the rule governing this....the reason natural and physical?

And is there any reason to suppose that the quantum vacuum from which the universe sprang isn't an aspect of an intelligence (before and up to a God) given governance is an aspect of consciousness.

Sassy #fundie religionethics.co.uk


Explain the average intelligence and stupidity which caused men to fly planes full of people into buildings?
When has intelligence, being a teenager or reasoning had anything to do with the way you or suicide terrorist live your lives?
You see Leonard, that sentence does not give any weight or even any velocity or value to an argument of belief in God.

Describe who is God and bring proof of argument that he does not exist or that circular reasoning can actually define belief in God. YOU know it cannot. You have adopted other mens teachings but the lack of evidence you have depends entirely on your own ability to choose what you believe. And choose is exactly what you did. It had nothing to do with reasoning because given the evidence of those high profile evangelist who perform miracle healings... then Christ words have more evidence to support them than your own personal choice to disbelieve.

http://www1.cbn.com/miraculously-healed-while-reading-bible


http://www1.cbn.com/video/medically-confirmed-miracle

You see this is evidence that God answers prayers... No circular reasoning, medical evidence and medical facts.

My own sister diagnosed with breast cancer. A slow cancer and was preparing for surgery and treatment.
Medical evidence... but like the man in the second video her mass disappeared.

So before you want to suggest that the beliefs of a Christian are based on 'circular reasoning'  and "Any average intelligence teenager can see the stupidity of such reasoning." you might like to acknowledge and admit, at least our God gives results.
Your own belief is chosen and has less evidence of truth than  the beliefs you criticize of Christians.

You have far less to support your choice of belief. And in the face of the above evidence you did choose it.

Hope #fundie religionethics.co.uk

Shakes, I know a number of evolutionary scientists, both non-Christian and Christian, and talking with them they all say that whilst there is some evidence, none of it comes anywhere close to being definitive.  They tend to use the legal term - circumstantial - to describe it.  As for the idea of 'evolution in general' as opposed to 'evolution in particular', there is plenty of evidence for microevolution, but very little concrete evidence for macroevolution.  Most of the latter is conjecture, and sometimes contradictory.

Sassy #fundie religionethics.co.uk

THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE WE EVOLVED AND NO EVIDENCE OF ANY EVOLVEMENT STILL HAPPENING SINCE IT WAS SUGGESTED WE EVOLVED. Man has always been man and always will be. So evidence for creation is the lack of any evidence of us coming from anywhere to evolve. Nothing evolves nothing new created and so we are still here and we are what we are as God created us. As for evolving... things would still be evolving and coming into existence but nothing ever does.

Made up, you see.


Without being created we could not exist. FACT.


Double negative cannot apply to God. Man made and has absolutely nothing to do with us and creation.
Not accepting something is not the same as not having... You choose not to believe and that is the reality,

Sassy #fundie religionethics.co.uk


Christian racism doesn't exist.

It is right under your nose the class prejudice in this country.
The poor get poorer and the rich keep treading all over them to remain at the top controlling the purse strings.
You live in a dream world if you actually think Christianity has anything to do with trying to make all religions and gods equal
making the world one instead of learning from the tower of babel the dangers of doing so.

The world created good then fell into the hands of Satan.
The EU is just another way of Satan without Hitler to form a sophisticated way of doing the same thing as Hitler wanted.
But who rules when it all falls apart because no country maintains it's own people, language, customs and money giving up their identity for a dream which will never be a reality?


If the way was being paved for the anti-christ then this is surely the way.....

Sassy #fundie religionethics.co.uk

It is simple for myself... Do I want to continue seeing my country flooded with foreigners bringing goodness know what diseases whilst our own suffer? Do I want to see countries responsible in the EU for child prostitution and slave prostitution coming here with the ability to kidnap children or young women and ship them off their foreign brothels and killing people to take power on the streets here?

Being in Europe puts us all at risk when gates open. We pay 35 billions a week and that would be 140 billion a month.
keep that within our own budget for hospitals etc We will be fine.
300,000 in one year and Goodness knows how many when they are not watching.

No, even if it means closing the channel tunnel it is time we came out of Europe.

Sassy #fundie religionethics.co.uk

The education matter is totally different matter.

You never learn so where it comes to pupils who cannot really take things in when taught, it isn't about standards.
You read and write but you cannot take in any other side to an argument or understand the arguments put forward.
No amount of good education can open a permanently closed bias mind.
Re-education cannot remove the prejudices that come from a persons heart. It requires truth and they cannot accept of admit it.

I would see all faith schools abolished except the Christian and Jewish schools.
Because they are basically what our Countries Faith is all about.
I would not allowed any other temples to be built to defile our land with idol and false God worship.
But then I think it doesn't matter eventually Christ will return and even atheists who grit their teeth will realise that it was for nothing that they dissed Jesus and God. Because they were the only persons who really cared and they dissed them.

Sassy #fundie religionethics.co.uk

I guess I am more honest than you... You have no facts in this argument and have no independent proof of what you claim.
But even a dummy would not put themselves in the same class of the animals when they are caretakers.
Nothing in comparison of life on this planet even suggests we are the same as animals.
We grow our own food and feed the animals. If we were animals we would have died out by now along with the animals.
We have been caretakers of this planet since God created it, and us. The intelligent amongst us, do not need to be educated as to why we are not animals.

Sassy #fundie religionethics.co.uk


There all OPINIONS but the FACTS show we are not animals.
If animals all would be dead by now. The truth is life of animals did not come from the same place as humans.

God breathed the life into human beings. A big difference. And all the above have absolutely NOTHING that has evidence or proof we are animals. See they are men too. But you claim to be animal because you don't want to admit there is a God.
But clearly we are not animals....

Just in case googled something to show we can find anything we want on the internet.


http://archive.larouchepac.com/node/31972

Truth is, and always will be, Mankind is Mankind and Animals are just Animals.

http://archive.larouchepac.com/node/31972

Vlad and his ilk #fundie religionethics.co.uk

The message in Christianity is the risen Jesus though. A dynamic risen Jesus is different from a message which can be spun. If you take the risen Jesus as that then you are in difficulties and have missed the point. If you accept the risen Jesus as he is then it's your 'self-spin' that has to go.

Sassy #fundie religionethics.co.uk

You are ignorant of what the speck in your eye is. Go away and learn the teaching.

So you would kill all the adults and leave the babies to die a slow agonising death or for animals to kill?

You need to wake up to yourself... Do you think no babies killed in any war by Man.
Didn't they kill the babies themselves? Didn't mankind have not care for their children. Didn't they sacrifice their Children to Molech

Leviticus 18:21
Verse Concepts
'You shall not give any of your offspring to offer them to Molech, nor shall you profane the name of your God; I am the LORD.

God destroyed the nations who were already teaching to offer their children as sacrifices to idols/false Gods.
The truth is God hated such things and he destroyed completely those nations so they could not lead the Israelites astray.
In the parts of the bible, the parts where Nations are destroyed or even Pharaoh and his armies it is all about Nations who kill children and even mistreat others.

God actually was putting an end to such things by destroying Nations who did this.
He was just and allowed no nation who harmed their children or could harm the children of other nations to exist.

God told the Israelites that there was to be no child burnt offerings etc.
But the evil was such that they did it. Googled these for you.
Read through them... God hates child sacrifices. By destroying nations and their descendants he put an end to it.

As you can see witchcraft and Paganism were the original cause of Children being sacrificed to false Gods.
God put an end to those nations and punished the Israelites if they failed to obey his rules about their children.
Now go away and stop bringing up something you have no understanding about. God hates the killing of Children and killed those who did it, and their descendants so they could not do it again.

The truth has shown how you are the one in denial.

The book shows that God does not want the things man makes up for himself.
It was man who decided to sacrifice his Children.
Abraham showed a faith that knew God could bring his Son back from the dead.
The same Faith of Abraham that saw Christs coming. It also shows that God did not want and does not want the children or people of others sacrificed to him. Would you promise God to sacrifice a person to him?
Mans nature is the evil part...


Jephtah’s daughter

Having been told they must not make human sacrifices what does Jephtah do?

He promises to sacrifice the first thing that greets him. Prepared to kill another person then his only daughter is the first.

He tells her and she agrees to fulfill the promise. A promise wrongly made doing that which God does not want.
But he is taught a life lesson he will never forget.
A lesson to us all that God does not want us to make sacrifices of humans.

Now you know that the truth is these people who were destroyed along with their descendants were about ridding the world of such evil things as sacrificing their children. These people were not civilised they had no police stations and no one to stop them killing their children. It is that part of it's history modern paganism has left behind. They made blood sacrifices of their children and people.  So the truth is God destroyed in mankind that which was not good. He killed off those who killed their children and the Children as they would have only carried on the same practice.

Now the truth is out you can shut up! Because you were wrong all along. God killed those who killed their children and their children to stop more being killed.

Sassy #fundie religionethics.co.uk

Says the animal about his creator...

See how stupid your answer really is...

Seems the only thing cross on here is your own inability to separate yourself from that which you are caretaker off, to that which is under the caretaker. Is it any wonder you cannot believe in your creator,

I am dealing with facts... We are not animals we gave the names to all individual species and lumped them altogether under the one title animals. The bible makes the clear distinction between man and animal.

I guess the donkeys only know how to eat their carrots because they cannot plough  the fields and sow their own.
Does that make man a different type of ass?


We all see why mankind is mankind and not an animal. Believe what you want because even an animal isn't dumb enough to pretend there is no difference between animals and humans.

Humans are not animals... here endeth the first lesson.

Sassy #conspiracy religionethics.co.uk

It isn't a conspiracy theory because theories could not exist if evidence were available and could be proven.
Now the rocks and all film disappeared except the fuzzy one step for man etc. What you going to do to prove they went to the moon? Truth is the movie makers and experts today could prove it they were real. Do you think it is funny they disappeared or the Government did not protect their little piece of being the first Country in the history of mankind to put foot on the moon.

Not a conspiracy theory just a claim which has no real evidence...

SO where it the experimental proof that the rock is not of earth origin.
You can fake anything when using a camera.... Including planes crashing... anything you want even people changing into werewolves trick photography is good.So those pictures are from the moonwalk?

Including filming the same piece of land on earth where the original walk on the moon took place.
Do grow up, if they actually had evidence oops original evidence which they claim to have lost, it would not be lost if real would it?

Sassy #fundie religionethics.co.uk

I think you are misrepresenting what you believe about Muslim with what Christ actually says:

There is no connection and it cannot be deemed the same thing.

Christ says " If you obey my commandments and keep my words you will know the truth and if the words he speaks comes from himself or God. In fact God will with Christ reveal themselves to the individual.
Islam makes NO SUCH PROMISE.

So you are deliberately misrepresenting something else to mean the same as Christ and God revealing themselves.
NOT THE SAME THING AT ALL. So you cannot use what you have said as any kind of comparison.

Sassy #conspiracy religionethics.co.uk

YOU mean like all the fools who believe Diane forecasting how they would kill her still do not believe her death was planned?
How much evidence do you need that it was revealed to her to do one of two things.

1. Frighten her and bring her to heel.

2. Or make it out to be co-incidence.

Then we have the deaths of those involved happening suspicious circumstances.

Especially the man found drowned locked in his own car but the funny thing was, there was no keys in the car or ignition with which to drive the car into the water.

I personally, have never used the site before so haven't a clue about it.

But I do take into account how all those astronauts died and how they too died in mysterious circumstances.

Did Marilyn Monroe kill herself and did Robert Kennedy really get shot by one gun when too many bullets found.

Truth is eventually we shall know. Do i believe the Queen capable of killing Diane.. Absolutely not, nor would she have backed any plans by others to do so. The woman a mother herself would never have done anything so cold and callous.
But the men in power have never been stopped from carrying out their own evil for their own ends.

The fact is there is absolutely nothing left now because they destroyed the footage that would prove the moon landing and got rid of the moon rock. All a little too conveniently.

As I said, if it has been done today, probably no problem with belief.
But there is absolutely no proof except the words of others. Arguing about websites useless it proves nothing but shows opinions.

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