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NicholasMarks #fundie religionethics.co.uk

Here is a better way of looking at life...through the eyes of Jesus Christ.

He knows that when we abandon his righteous teaching we look at things differently and many times our thinking is being directed by unhealthy forces. We only have to look at the power of advertising to know that we can be induced to believe anything and devious forces can ensure a luxurious life style by suppressing the Christian message.

So...what's in it for us to abandon evil and start living the way we should...well...the end to war would be nice but the best is the end to war inside our own flesh and blood...largely because there is a pair of glands secreted within our own bodies that yield a vital substance. Glands which are crushed out of existence at an early age...generally in our teen years though sometimes before and sometimes after...and when it is lost we begin to demolish our own inner reserves until that is gone as well.

Well...there is only one answer and that is to follow the science as accurately as possible and when we talk about science here we are talking about the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ...

...whilst I continue to track and explore this science, which is showing great potential, for those chosen to participate in it.

Arbitrary Scepticism Award

Alan Burns #fundie religionethics.co.uk

My freedom to choose to reply to your post is sufficient evidence of my supernatural ability to make a consciously driven choice. A natural explanation would require that my response to your post was entirely pre determined by the uncontrollable physically defined reactions in my material brain.

NicholasMarks #fundie religionethics.co.uk

Hi, Sweet Pea—I do things the way I do them because it is at the behest of Almighty God and his much loved son, Jesus Christ, and like the watchman who is equally guilty if he doesn’t notify those he is watching over, of approaching dangers, when something sinister is approaching, I don’t want to share in the guilt of the antichrist.

Every night now, at sunset, and for a number of months, there has been a huge red tint radiating across that area of sky—it lasts for about half an hour and it is causing quite a fuss on YouTube—but, true to form, it can only be seen by those who aren’t locked into the antichrist philosophy. Trentvoyager recognises its existence, whilst Seb can’t see it, on a night when it was particularly spectacular—check it out for yourself, and know that God’s Judgment is near.

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Two Gifts From God—(part 31)

It is a commonly known fact that the human body has two sides which have semi-independent responsibilities over each other. There is the LHS and the RHS and in a stroke one side can fail completely.
This can happen suddenly and without warning and is usually attributable to a blood-clot lodged in the brain. But why is the blood clotting and is this condition as sudden as it appears??

Not according to God’s righteous science—It has been building up for some time. From our early youth we have been squeezing our brains to get a greater response from it. We frown and squeeze it, thus hindering the natural circulation throughout the many journals that are a part of its make-up. At an early age we start having head-aches and migraines and slowly but surely we are closing down one side of the brain, as surely as if it was by the sudden attack of a blood clot, but this is slow and spreads over a number of years whilst all the glands, muscles, and thinking abilities, associated with a full blown stroke, are there, hidden from view, disguised in a numbness, and which requires urgent attention before the blood thickens up and begins to congeal.

As always, that urgent attention is captured within the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ—His teaching is so accurate that we can apply maximum faith to it knowing that if we are beyond repair we will also have a share in the resurrection, and this is a great comforter too.

I call this a ‘silent stroke’—but it is much more far-reaching than is listed here.

—(to be continued)

NicholasMarks #fundie religionethics.co.uk


There is no convincing you is there?

Even with the stark facts in front of you you want to play with words...just as the entire rank and file of the antichrist do.

This dynamic energy is rich in potential...Galaxies are structured from it and you and I are too. This is why I can safely say that our abuse of it disturbs our own, individual, genetic code....sometimes in an evolutionary sense, sometimes in a righteous sense, sometimes in a wild, frenzied, evil sense...but, never-the-less, we can't escape its interference until we are dead and then we are stuck in the the ether in an inconsequential, boring sense, unless we can be resurrected...and that is what Jesus Christ offers those who participate in his, accurate, righteous science.

Soon the ether will be swept clean by the invading planetary bodies Biblically called Wormwood and the fiery lake of sulphur, and so we need to look for the signs and maneuver ourselves into salvation...only achievable by following Jesus Christ accurately. There is wriggle room, but not for the antichrist.

NicholasMarks #fundie religionethics.co.uk

Now we have established that mass is restructured energy and is prone to some very predictable, calculable, behaviour patterns, we can look away from the singularity that science says installed it all inside every single atom, in such a wonderful and graceful way, and, to find true answers, we must consult the Holy Bible...God's superabundant, invisible, indestructible, dynamic energy, that structured these atoms in such a divine way that they obey the precise laws of chemistry, electricity, physics, and righteousness...and it all revolves around the higgs-field, Stranger.

The higgs-field is a semi-portal into the primary dimension of the universe...As tiny as it is it holds all the energy within an atom together. The slightest hint of such a hole created within the swirling and crashing internal forces of a star is sufficient to suck-in energy from all directions in measured amounts because in a single gush, in less than a nanosecond, the hole that holds them becomes stable and excess energy is swept away causing the higgs-hole to pulse and suck in more energy until the higgs is captured and retained in the atom it just formed, for our future electric experiments. The higgs is kinda sprung-loaded in its stability but interference with that stability exposes the force of the higgs creating magnetism, chemistry, the speed of light, and ohms law...all dependant upon how we are looking at the problem.

So, in all our sciences there is a higgs story and the most compelling of these is how gravity, higgs, magnetism, electricity, living-cells, and righteousness, all work together, hand in hand with each other.

NicholasMarks #conspiracy religionethics.co.uk

The Living-Cell

From the perspective of an All Electric Universe we can relook at all science and explore new avenues of thought that might lead to some exciting discoveries. That is what I propose doing here, using the living-cell as a model to guide us into a deeper understanding about the All-Electric Universe.

The living cell follows a number of patterns of behaviour. It can replicate itself—It can perform chemical tasks. It embraces atoms like long lost cousins. It is superabundant, being that trillions upon trillions of them are functioning in their many tasks at any one moment in time. They can go wrong—get stuck, in a circular pattern, which goes wild and uncontrollable, replicating in a fury, whilst not being controlled by any useful genetic patterning —and it can carry genetic information from one generation to the next—a tall order for one so small.

They each have science foxed, but not if we introduce an all-electric universe that obeys certain rules, and harnessing those rules for our own benefit—a must, for any who want to improve their health.

Alan Burns #crackpot religionethics.co.uk

My view that conscious awareness can't be generated from material reactions alone is not just personal incredulity. It is based upon sound logic on which I could write many pages. Unfortunately I can only give a short account on this forum.

People seem to confuse material reactions with conscious perception. Conscious perception is not just a complex reaction. External observance of complex reactions can often be mistaken as an indication of conscious perception, but the simple truth is that consciousness is not material reaction, but perception of material reaction. Our consciousness allows us to perceive the data from our sensory organs rather than just react to it. We can share our conscious awareness with other human beings by choosing to use abstract media to communicate what we perceive. Early evidence of this type of communication exists in the early cave paintings in which humans were able to show what they perceived by reproducing images on the cave walls. These early cave paintings also demonstrate the human freedom to choose how to respond to perceived data rather than just react to it. Modern humans can now choose many different means to communicate their conscious awareness with other people.

I also challenge the presumption that there is no evidence for the existence of non physical entities beyond the scope of scientific investigation. The existence of our universe is in itself evidence of the non physical. Current evidence indicates that our material universe, together with its associated time dimension and physical properties came into existence a few milliseconds after the singularity known as the big bang. It is logical to presume that this singularity has a causation from outside our known universe, and by implication we must presume that this causation was a non physical entity. For want of another word, we could call this non physical entity the source. This source is obviously beyond the scope of scientific investigation, but without it there would be no science, no universe - nothing. Science can't determine if this source's only interaction with our universe was creating the singularity, or if there is still interaction from this source. Science can't be used to deny such interaction, because there are such things as quantum indeterminacy which have no discernable cause from within our current scientific knowledge. So we have scientific knowledge of the existence of this source, but very little else from the science perspective. If this source does have interaction with our material universe, we need to use our considerable abilities to look beyond the limitations of human scientific knowledge and contemplate the evidence provided by our own existence and human nature and come to realise that our ability to search for God is a profound human asset beyond the scope of scientific investigation.

NicholasMarks #crackpot religionethics.co.uk

We are even told that strange creatures from another planet are coming and that anyone who crosses them will be stung....a sting that will be so bad and will last for five months. It will be so bad that people will beg to die but wont. Another good reason to follow righteousness because the righteous wont be touched...Almighty God has decreed it.

NicholasMarks #crackpot religionethics.co.uk

Respiratory Therapy

This is perhaps the most delicate of the seven therapies. I couldn’t possibly go into detail because of its delicate nature, but it is a direct necessity because of the cerebrospinal fluid waste which has caused the RH body to go progressively numb…for some, more than others…and it is directly linked to hormone waste via the same mechanics of waste.

Had you been more responsive to the first two therapies we could have had something we could work with…as it is…well…??

Numbness is a peculiar phenomenon within the human body because when the senses and body parts are numb you don’t really know about it…especially if there is an alternative…and that is what happens here. ..all the weight of the numbed RH body falls upon the LH body and this means the RH lung becomes very inefficient whilst the cerebrospinal fluid pathway through the whole body needs maximum oxygen intake…Older people display this inefficiency in their fatigue, lack of muscle tone, and a tendency to be selfish and unresponsive to new ideas, leading, ultimately, to some degree of dementia…but all of that can be dealt with…if caught in time…and it all begins with Therapy 1…Taking in the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ.

However you might interpret this post it is designed to help, especially those who want or need Christian help…and where a vibrant spirit means rebirth, repair and resurrection, as the case demands, and we know this because of Jesus Christ.

Sriram #fundie religionethics.co.uk


You are trying to have your cake and eat it too. You claim that there is no Self because our awareness and identity is affected when we sleep or in case of brain injury etc. Yet, just to get over the determination problem, you are willing to accept that the Unconscious mind drives our lives.

If you agree that the Unconscious mind is the real driver of our lives behind the conscious mind....then the issue of the Self being hidden behind the conscious mind is solved. The unconscious mind is or is part of the Soul. We (meaning... the conscious mind) have no idea what all this is or how it all works in any case. So what is the problem?

Determinism only affects the material world because it is subject to physical laws. The Unconscious mind (the soul) need not be subject to these laws. It is the element that influences and intervenes in our lives and directs not only our individual lives but all evolution itself.

Alan Burns #fundie religionethics.co.uk

Having recently enjoyed the wonderful, joy filled celebrations of Easter with fellow Christians, it is truly depressing and sad to return to the dreadful negativity put forward to deny God's existence on this forum.

Of course God's existence is an objective fact. For anything to exist at all, there has to be an ultimate source for any existence - and it is not in this material universe which itself came into existence from a source beyond our understanding.

What saddens me, and God I feel, is that humans are so capable of wilfully refuting any evidence for God by using their God given gifts of intelligence and free thought to concoct reasons not to believe. I feel the key to discover God will only be found if you truly want to search for Him. The Devil will always provide an abundance of reasons not to believe for those who do not wish to find God.

Sassy #fundie religionethics.co.uk

[And, in a court of law, a claim that Jesus was real would be thrown out in moments as, at best, hearsay - it would be inadmissible in evidence. Eye-witness testimony, delivered in person, is permitted (and, for cultural reasons, given undue weight) but the allegation that someone told you they'd seen it, without the opportunity to cross-examine them to determine how accurate their memory is or trustworthy their contribution is would be thrown out.]

It wouldn't... the oath in court says " I swear by Almighty God" it would hypocritical to accept an oath sworn by Almighty God then throw out the belief Jesus was real. It is a fact that a third of the world accept Christ as real. So by that fact alone they could not throw out that Christ actually was real.

Sriram #fundie religionethics.co.uk

Most genuine thinkers were philosophers first and scientists next. Their quest was never complete merely with understanding physical laws. They always sought answers beyond that.

Its in the mid 20th century that people (Dawkins.) latched on to religions like Christianity and Islam and made a big song and dance about them. This created an artificial gap and this is where hard Scientism came into the picture.

NicholasMarks #fundie religionethics.co.uk

You are stuck on that old evolution thing which gives us no clues what-so-ever to how the human being sprung from the loins of a monkey. Better to believe what the Holy Bible says, that Almighty God made us and made us fit for the the environment that had already supported life but had become void with darkness on the face of the watery deep. Then we can say that every expression we make is a spiritual/electric expression and this is what guides us...but Jesus Christ, who is far more advanced than us, guides us best.

Private Frazer #fundie religionethics.co.uk

(In answer to question what evidence is there for the claim that we all need to be saved and that Jesus is a the saviour)

The evidence is alienation inclusive of any non acted out nastiness in one's mind.
That things are not going as well as they could be although as far agnostic and atheists that is usually down to other people (Don't forget that all people are included in somebody's other people).
If you look at other religions they are commandment following, scales of justice or technique based.

What evidence do you have that there is no alienation, that it is down to people and that law-following or techniques can actually save or whether only God can take it upon himself.

Alan Burns #fundie religionethics.co.uk

The implication is that our freedom can't be derived purely from the deterministically driven events in the physical material of our brain. Our freedom must come from a source which is not constrained by the uncontrollable forces of nature, so our freedom is verifiable evidence of our spiritual, God given nature.

NicholasMarks #fundie religionethics.co.uk

Evolution

So—Almighty God is the owner of all electrical laws. Now—I am sure you all can see that the laws that made electrons and protons, neutrons and photons, all the field forces that have to follow electrical laws and all the electromagnetic interactions, can be deemed to be—electric laws.

Almighty God, then, owns all these things and a very special set of electrical laws says, he is exactly who he says he is.

It is very difficult to explain things in the real terms that they happened because it is too advanced for us, but, as far as evolution is concerned—it is reaching out for vital, electrical nourishment, that alters the genetic code. If a giraffe needed to be taller to reach the only food available then the stretching of the appropriate muscles gave an electrical signal that achieved that end. This is epigenetics—and it is very prevalent within evolution.

Jesus Christ teaches us something from the same school of thought. By reaching out for righteousness we soothe and calm the genetics that evolution frustrates and we can begin to harness epigenetics in a helpful way.

Electrical laws then become spiritual laws because we are now following the refined version contained within the Gospels.

NicholasMarks #fundie religionethics.co.uk


Atheists and Christians:

If a new science is correct it should be able to go to places that current science can’t—and explain phenomenon previously inexplicable. That is what I will touch on now.

I have chosen four topics of mystery, which, if looked at down the microscope of my science, cease to be so mysterious. They are all elements of the same mystery and are stepping stones, one to the other—and ultimately, stepping stones to evolution, and, to Almighty God.

These are—Poltergeist; Time Warps; The Bermuda Triangle; UFOs.

Whenever these mysteries are reported they are always linked to strange, electrical aberrations. There is a reason for this—as we will see.

Gravity is the stuff that holds things together—but its strength isn’t fixed. That strength can fluctuate.

Wherever these aberrations are found, gravity is being disturbed, and another set of rules come into play. You see, unbeknownst to us, we are all traveling at the speed of the expanding universe—which is pretty fast—and any break, or reduction in the gravitational strength around us, can send us into another dimension, a static dimension, divorced from the speed of the expanding universe and, the conflicts this engages, gives off these amazing effects people sometimes witness.

Further proof we are all living in a strange, electrical universe.

NicholasMarks #fundie religionethics.co.uk


You are all trying to lure me into a religious campaign when I am firmly developing a scientific thread. It is science that warned you of the climatic changes and it is the newspapers...presumably from scientific data, that is warning of of the distresses that are looming. I am simply pointing out that it is all in the Holy Bible and in particular the Gospels...a time when the whole world goes crazy...a time when Almighty God will act on behalf of the faithful...The not so faithful need not apply.

I have given a good account on the mechanics of gravity...even the most disbelieving who have a scientific insight must see that if we are living in a gravitational field we need resistance to its full force else a number of compressing forces will play havoc with our health...and if we look the world over there is middle age catastrophe for many, many people.

It all fits together if we say that the lead principle behind universal existence is a superabundant material that is the birth-force behind everything. The natural conclusion behind that understanding is that it is all owned by Almighty God...an ownership he stamped upon us when we crucified his son...and who would know better about its workings above Almighty God and his son...Jesus Christ. (Isaiah 40:26 NWT

Alan Burns #fundie religionethics.co.uk

I feel I must refute the idea that these are incoherent:He created beings with their own free will - to follow Him or to reject Him.
The Devil is a consequence of this God given freedom.
He did not create us as puppets or robots.Human science can't yet define how the soul interacts with our physical brain, but that does not mean that the interaction is not there.I do not presume to make judgements about Heaven until I get there!No - just free of the unavoidable consequences of material reactions, which allows us the freedom to choose rather than just react.I do not think you understand how thoughts are initiated, driven and perceived by our spiritual soul. I do not understand this myself, but it is just the way it is (not just the way it seems!).God has made Himself known to all mankind in the form of Jesus Christ.I see it as man rejecting God rather than the other way round.

Sassy #fundie religionethics.co.uk


Because you do not know the reason something exists does not deny the fact it does exist.
Unicorns are mythology because we have never seen them but the fact is that the knowledge of them, are a reason to believe they once existed even though we cannot prove it. Why you want to use the term mythology when it is a fact Christ existed I am unaware.

Spud #fundie religionethics.co.uk

The evidence is all around, but you are suppressing it with theories like evolution. It's also in the Bible, a historical document, which you may not believe; but in order to back up the statement that you made earlier (re: me talking nonsense where faith is concerned), you need to prove that what I said is not in the Bible.

Sriram #fundie religionethics.co.uk


(Discussing video posted by poster supposedly showing soul leaving body )


Yes....even I was sitting next to my father and FIL as they passed away....and I did not see anything leaving the body. If we could actually see the soul/spirit we wouldn't be discussing it in this manner would we?!

We cannot see or hear or feel the spirit/soul and that's the whole point. It is said that, under some special circumstances, especially if the person who died is fairly young, the soul can be felt or even seen. These are unknown phenomena...so going into intricate details is not meaningful.

In the first video the guys on the scene obviously did not 'see' anything. But one of them seems to have felt something as he extended his hand through the soul ....or so it seemed to me.

Also FYI, black souls mean not very evolved souls (more selfish) while white soul means more developed and loving. :)

Maybe the videos are fake...but since I believe in souls/spirits and life after death...I have no reason to assume so. Souls are normal!

Spud #fundie #homophobia religionethics.co.uk

Such a condition could be treated by the person waiting until the child is an adult, in the mean time suppressing their urges under supervision by a phsychotherapist and perhaps being allowed to conduct a friendship with the child, thus forming an emotional bond with him/her which might be the foundation for a future physical relationship when the child is old enough. We do after all see older men marrying women much younger than themselves.

Supposing for a minute that homosexuality was still illegal. I wonder if a similar kind of process could be found for enabling homosexuals to reach a point where, having suppressed their urges for some time, they could reach the point where they could live with their attraction to the same sex, and form a strong emotional and physical relationship with someone of the opposite sex

Indistinguishable from Vlad #fundie religionethics.co.uk

You almost undo a scientifically unverifiable ''privilege'' by suggesting a scientifically unverifiable ''bigger scheme of things''.

The question why something and not nothing of course takes all this in it's stride.

the claim that we are not special is just the reverse of thinking we are special. Again Shakespeare has it with his iteration of ''why something and not nothing''
''To be or not to be''

Alan Burns #fundie religionethics.co.uk

Any logic which leads to the conclusion that the content of your posts was pre determined by an inevitable chain of events which began with the big bang is clearly flawed. Believe in your soul which determines your free will and defines what you are!

Sriram #fundie religionethics.co.uk

(Poster discussing explanations of magic tricks videos they posted)


OK.....I know such things can be scary for hardened atheists and materialists .....and many would like to laugh loudly in the dark.

But fact is...no one has managed to explain these 'tricks'....except through rather mundane methods like a hole in the wall, strings, trapdoors, all the people are actors, camera tricks ....etc. Not a single so called 'explanation' available in youtube is meaningful.

Magic is still 'Magic'. You guys must admit you are stumped!

Alan Burns #fundie religionethics.co.uk

No one can detect gravity or what it comprises. But we know it exists because of the affect it has on material elements. Similarly with spiritual entities such as souls. We can't detect them directly, but we know they exist because they can impart conscious acts of will on an otherwise physically deterministic universe.

Alan Burns #fundie religionethics.co.uk

I have simply claimed that the conscious will of my soul is responsible for the posts I make on this forum, because I can't envisage any other feasible explanation.

You claim that if my spiritual soul exists, whatever it does will be deterministic in the same way as physical brain activity. But if my free will actions are derived from my soul, you must at least admit that they will have a different origin (being spiritual) to anything produced from physical brain activity. So can I repeat my request for you to say what defines the ultimate source of my posts (and yours). This is not a distraction, but a fundamental issue concerning what drives the conscious free will of human beings.

Sassy #fundie religionethics.co.uk

Because according to evolution nothing/no other species but man has evolved.
Think about that. Our cognitive functions and skills are far advanced beyond that of animals...
We can do and think far more than any animals.
What makes us different to the millions of species of animals on the planet still living as they did when first created?

Alan Burns #fundie religionethics.co.uk

My logic boils down to the impossibility of conscious awareness arising from a chaotic material universe without God's intervention. I know you disagree with this conclusion, but there is no material definition for what comprises conscious awareness and how it can be generated from purely material entities.

NicholasMarks #fundie religionethics.co.uk

Science calls it a big-bang but cannot justify how all the energy contained in the universe sprang from their singularity. I say, we must look beyond the big-bang. That there is a superabundant energy that has always been and always will be. It drifted around space...gathering into huge, dense galaxy bearing clouds, of light-year proportions. Before the big-bang there must have been a static universe...same space...same energy but no time what-so-ever...this all changed when neighbouring clouds drifted into each other...their extremely dense cores set upon claiming the centre position causing a massive collision which split the universe into two dimensions and from this all science sprung into life and the supporting evidence is contained within the Holy Bible.

Alan Burns #fundie religionethics.co.uk

The problem is that you have not taken that very important first step in faith. Once you start on a journey in faith, and come to know God, you will see things from a different perspective and realise the failings of short sighted logic. And come to realise that God is ultimately responsible for whatever logic we perceive.

Alan Burns #fundie religionethics.co.uk

I have already pointed out that intelligent design does exist as demonstrated by numerous man made designs. As the Christian bible says we are made in God's image, so it is feasible that we inherited this attribute of intelligent design from God.

And does it matter what method God used to produce a DNA molecule containing all the data and mechanisms needed to create and maintain a complete human being? The specific complexity of the end result far exceeds the Goo which would be produced by two billion years of totally random events acting on life's basic ingredients.

Spud #fundie #homophobia religionethics.co.uk

Absolutely. There is no problem with gay people having good relationships with people of the same sex whom they love, as long as they don’t engage in sexual acts. God created male and female and it was good. Homosexuality is one result of man’s rebellion against God. It is not good. Yes as you say we should be compassionate; the problem comes when you have a communion service, and the priest knows that a member coming for communion is a practicing homosexual. If someone is living in defiance of God’s moral law (eg having an affair), the priest may refuse them communion. This is why it is important to be clear about what the Bible says. The priest is actually doing a more loving thing by not giving them communion because if he did he would be encouraging them to continue to sin, so their soul would not be saved.

Sriram #fundie religionethics.co.uk

Intellectual understanding is never the answer to many things.  It has its usefulness but should not be over stated.

The objective of the Robin is to fly, not to understand its own flight mechanism. 

This is where life becomes intricate. We have evolved an ability to understand things intellectually. It is useful but perhaps we are over doing it. Intellectual understanding can become an obsessive need just like other needs.  

Spirituality and religions try to wean us away from too much of intellectualism.

Sassy #fundie #homophobia religionethics.co.uk

That is RUBBISH. Homophobia is an invented word. It is about personal choice and belief and to disagree without any dislike, hatred or even bias is not homophobia.
You could say atheist are christianphobics. Do you hate Christians because you disagree with their beliefs?
So STOP making excuses and making Christians to be different to others who disagree with someone elses beliefs.

Russian and other countries like Uganda are against homosexuality full stop.
Today people can move if the country they live in does not allow the the freedom to partake in homosexual acts.

What if you had to sleep with another man to prove you were not homophobic?>
You see it isn't natural to some they have no sexual feelings or emotional feelings towards the same sex as they do the opposite sex. Does that make them homophobic? You will support homosexiality as long as you are not made to participate.
The same for many people but why try and make someone who does not feel it is natural say it is.
Because basically there is a difference between accepting homosexcuality for others and accepting it to be right for yourself.

I am sick of the argument and finger pointing when people are seen as homophobic to the limitation of what they accept.
You do not accept it is right for you. You would hate to be forced or co-hersed into doing homosexual sex.
Do not confuse natural rejection of choice to be homosexual and feel it right with those who are just blatant bigots and would harm someone who is homosexual. Do not include all Christian groups in such outright and deliberate bias.

Alan Burns #fundie religionethics.co.uk


For God not to exist, we need to assume -
1. That the universe came into being on its own without divine help
2. That the initial conditions concerning the incredibly fine tuned balance between the rate of expansion of the universe an the force of Gravity (the cosmological constant) which allowed the formation of stars and galaxies was not intentional.
3. That the first living cell came into being through the actions of random, unguided, purposeless events.
4. That a sufficient quantity and quality of beneficial mutations can be generated from random events to drive the process of evolution.
5. That the detrimental effects of harmful mutations could not wipe out life entirely.
6. That every one of the billions of discrete mutations needed to form life as we know it was able to provide sufficient survival advantage in its own right to facilitate natural selection.
7. That molecular activity alone can generate self awareness.
8. That every event needed to write this post was an inevitable consequence of previous events, because we must assume that there can be no such thing as free will.

And we must presume that all these assumptions are true because God does not exist.

DaveM #fundie religionethics.co.uk

Reminds me of the Prof of Statistics several years ago who took eight prophecies relating to the life of Jesus. All were from OT writings where there is general agreement that they dated back at least 400 years before Christ. He then gave his senior class an exercise to calculate the probability of all eight being fulfilled in one person. They came up with a figure of 1:10^17. So perhaps another seven prophecies from you would be in order.

The results were published in a respected journal. So clearly his methodology was considered acceptable.

There were of course over 30 prophecies fulfilled in the last week of Christ's life alone.

NicholasMarks #fundie religionethics.co.uk

Hasn't anyone ever told you that by sin the worst possible genetic fault...death...came into the world and that all genetic faults spring from it. That is how we can be certain that following Jesus Christ's righteous science we can pay back for (repair) our sins.

Time to start listening to the science that everything is a manifestation of the same scientific cause...God's fountain of living waters---or if you prefer...God's 'dynamic energy'. A property that stares us in the face every day by virtue of our very own star.

NicholasMarks #fundie religionethics.co.uk

You could be right...but time-travel isn't so very difficult. You see...if we take our lead from Almighty God we know that in the static dimension a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years are like a day. So there we have it...if we want to slip around time and space all we have to do is become stationary whilst the Milky Way hurtles away from us at the speed of the expanding universe...and, it seems, many observers have witnessed this principle in action.

Alan Burns #fundie religionethics.co.uk

I read once of someone claiming that photons from the sun could be responsible for many of the mutations in DNA which are needed to drive the process of evolution. If this is correct, then I must assume that God can aim these photons with a precision beyond our understanding.

Sassy #fundie #homophobia religionethics.co.uk

The OT was the covenant with the Jews not Christians.
It was for people in a different country at a different time. And no matter what you call this thread you cannot use it to poke at subjects that are nothing to do with the Lords Prayer.

There is no mind set to condemn or defend. That was that covenant. But today for Christians they cannot be homosexual in practice because the body is to be used for Gods Glory not mans lusts or to sin in any way.
Christ is for Christians and homosexuality is for homosexuals.  Christians are not allowed to take part in any sexual behaviour considered sin. They cannot sleep with prostitutes and they have to remain in unity with God.

So not really anything to do with Christianity is it?