Man with all his technology still cannot reproduce even the pyramids.

The real conflict comes when "evolutionists" go out of their way to remove God from the picture and under mind the values parents are trying to instill into their kids, Tex.

If this controversy is going to end, Evo's need to get their religion out of the class room and just stick to the facts.

Why can't we just execute the ACLU liars and be done with it? Are they not "domestic enemies" of the State? Are they not terroristic in their threats against our values and way of life? Are they not criminal in their actions...thieving, raping, and pillaging the public trust?

String 'em up and let 'em swing from the end of a rope until the birds pick their bones clean...

[on falsifiability]

Evo's have stated time and time again here that the only "truths" they have are "truths" that can be proven false ....

huh ??

I don't believe that all evos are stupid, but most certainly come across that way. The number of evos who are capable of thinking for themselves and presenting logical arguments is extremely small. Most only regurgitate sceince they don't understand from talkorigins.com. They don't come here for debate. They don't come for a rational discussion of the issues, as is evidenced by their closed minds and adamant resistance to that which does not fit what they choose to believe.

Once same-sex marriage is generally adopted, polygamy is right around the corner. You can also expect lowering of the age of consent to about 13 - liberals want to have sex with children too.

[Arguing that we'll develop the science fiction technology from the 1999 movie <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Wild_West" target="_blank">Wild Wild West</a>, in which killers are identified by whatever the last image "burned" into the victim's retinas happened to be at the time of death]

Remember The Wild Wild West with the dead retina scan? Something along those lines, and more, are coming our way, so that murderers can run, but they can never hide for long.

Watch, and see how victims' eyes are gouged out in the coming times?

dont bash mccarthy [<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism" target="_blank">this guy</a>], he was a great american who saw communists in the government and didnt care what it would do to him to get rid of them because it was best for the country

The right to die will quickly become a duty to die, and then an obligation to die. Especially when put into the hands of insurance lawyers who will take every case to court until they get what they want, which is an unlimited, unrestricted obligation to kill anyone who is sick beyond a cold. Do you imagine for one instant that this whole right to die argument isn't driven by someone with a financial interest in not paying for expensive medical care

The earth is NOT 4 billion years old. Neither is the universe. Give it up. All methods of dating presuppose conditions of autocreation that could not have ever happened. The universe was created with radiation levels more or less where they are today. If you created Bullshittium yesterday with a radiation level of 10 kornturds, and a radiation level of 10 kornturds indicates that Bullshittium is at 80% of its effective life, it doesn't mean you didn't create it yesterday. When your caculations asssume a process that has no relation to what happened, then your calculations have no chance of being accurate.

In his famous "I Have a Dream" speech on August 28, 1963, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. said, "I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." Today, more than 43 years after Dr. King's speech, liberals still judge people "by the color of their skin," while conservatives still judge people by the "content of their character."

Liberals force inner-city blacks to beg for government handouts and to live in fear for their lives in squalid slums. Liberals force the children of inner-city blacks to attend sub-standard schools where the main curriculum consists of drugs, gangs, guns, sexual promiscuity, and illiteracy. Liberals consider all inner-city black women of childbearing age to be little more than breeders who are given monetary incentives to produce ever-increasing numbers of welfare babies. Then, if an inner-city black single mother dares to violate liberal welfare rules by allowing the father of her children to live with her and help raise their children, the liberal government social workers punish her by taking away her benefits.

Dr. King must be spinning in his grave over what liberals have done to his people.

I don't hate blacks for the color of their skin. I despise them for their black mindset--a victim's mindset. There is such a thing as being black from a philosophical viewpoint.

Ninety percent of blacks cast their unquestioning, knee-jerk vote for a particular political party (or, more accurately, in opposition to what they perceive as the anti-black political party) and see that as unity rather than willfully blind stupidity and immaturity. Ninety percent of them mindlessly rant that O.J. was the victim of a police frameup and see that as brotherhood rather than seething, race-based bigotry.

However if a half decent Republican wins (not McCain) in 2008 there is an EXCELLENT chance that another conservative or two of some stripe will be appointed. THIS would revolutionize the court.

Still, I can hope that a painless event takes away some of the liberal justices...like a night in a garage with carbon monoxide poisoning...Or a pill induced coma..or ..or ...or....

Amazingly, only "The Time Of JESUS" stands alone in dividing our span through the ages. A year must either be BC or AD. This is to say that a 36 year span in between would belong to only one man. Jesus of Nazareth. So, we know as a fact today that After Death is exactly 2006 years ago. That's one hell of a thing to dedicate to one man, wouldn't you say? It would be an insane thing to dedicate to a myth.

Atheists are almost always Lefties, and as I pointed out awhile back, Lefties are the spiritual descendants of the original Puritans. They can't live with the thought that somebody, somewhere, is doing what HE wants to do rather than what the Lefties want him to do.

['the problem when people don't believe in God is not that they believe nothing, it is that they believe anything.']

Not just anything, but anything that forwards their agenda. That's why 90% of atheists are also liberals.

Atheist societies die out because they have no investment in the future. They don't want no kids helping spend up their money. Selfishness. Greed. Of the grasping sort.

Evolutionism requires the law and the courts to maintain its exclusivity. It cannot survive on its own merits, and must have arrogant, opinionated assmites like [George W. Bush appointee] "Judge" John E. Jones III on its side to censor all opposing viewpoints. Once again the religion of evolutionism prevails. All hail the "science" that relies for it validity on judges and voters.

Left wing christians are not 'christians' , they are Assholes who are blind when it comes to reading the bible and ignore scripture and promote the values of Lucifer/Satan

Creation supporters have no problem with science...it is the evolution supporters that do. Were it otherwise, they wouldn't have to use the courts to impose their religion upon the rest of us.

btw - isn't that a violation of the 1st amendment? Seems to me that the government is establishing a religion by forcing our kids to be indoctrinated into a belief system that is a pack of lies.

[Refering to a "liberal churchi's" Jesus]

Their Jesus is a weak, pacifistic, lamb-holding wuss, the prototype Mister Rogers who preached nothing but love and peace and acceptance and tolerance (which leads one to wonder how He got Himself cruficied). Their God is a George Burns lookalike who would never condemn anyone to hell, and Who will allow everyone into heaven, even those who have spent their lives denying Him, loathing Him, defying Him and spitting in His face.

Muslims are violent because of their religion. Christians are violent despite their religion.

God, However, IS testable, HAS been observed through the personage of His Son, and HAS proven Hisself to be the one and true God throughout the history of mankind. He HAS spoken directly to man. His words HAVE been recorded as spoken. God can be found by anyone who seeks Him. An alternative for origination cannot be found in His absence. Therefore, God alone offers the explanations for origination. Only God could create what is not possible to have been created. God alone is science.

[Replying to a thread concerning the summary dismissal of a lawsuit filed due to the "inability of Muslims to use a Quran for courtroom oaths"]

—the Quran teaches that honesty must be afforded other Muslims, but lies are fine for infidels (i.e. everyone else).

Therefore, for a Muslim to take an oath on a Quran would only serve to guarantee that what follows is a pack of lies.

The Bible, on the other hand, is the scripture of the one true God and His son Jesus Christ – which compels all to take the oath more seriously.

The Quran has no place in a courtroom - other then as evidence of terrorist indocrination.

White America does rule and it does dominate. If you want to live in a country ruled and dominated by blacks, move to Africa, they have lots of countries ruled and dominated by blacks.

Evolutionism is a philosophy, not a science. It's an open-ended, unlimited, parameter-free Theory of Everything. It disallows even the slightest exceptions, and it is constantly being modified to "explain" every new discovery. It is so vaguely and broadly defined that a fly walking up a window pane is changing its position, ergo "evolving".

It's a truth table with nothing but Ts. It is a tautology. It is NOT science.

[An odd response to a perfectly reasonable analogy between common ancestory and the evolution of language]

You can crawl back up the slimehole that you came from- FSTDT.

Bob, you are merely an irritant, at this point in time. The point of this thread was to show SCIENTIFICALLY the evidences for a global flood. The reason for this is YOU and your haughty, arrogant dismissal of ANYTHING the Bible states.

Choke on it, for all I care. You refuse to see the merits of Dr Brown's [hilariously unbelievable <a href="http://mypage.direct.ca/w/writer/hydro.html" target="_blank">hydroplate theory</a>] findings? Fine. Continue to be the ignoramous that we've come to "love". The only thing you're continuing to exhibit to everyone here is that you are an UNscientific man. You don't care about science, you care about your religious worldview remaining intact.

Your lame attempts to refute what's been posited have even been called into question by others who believe the ToE, for cryin' out loud....sheesh, get a grip on reality, for once in your life, will you please?

Keep this in mind though, I will only respect true Evos. A true evo 1) has to be a vegan. Otherwise they go against their belief system and become a Dahmer. and 2) Must have sex, at least at some point, with animals. They are just waiting for the crossbreed. And, they're legit too. The theory says as much. If numbers 1 and 2 are not followed, you are not an Evo.

I believe children who do not receive smacking for their bad behavior grow up to be thin-skinned, candy ass, spoiled leftists.

Yes it should be illegal. We have outlawed other forms of sexual perversion, like pedophilia and bestiality and so forth. Why should homosexual perverts get special treatment? I'm sick of our country turning its back on God's law and caving in to perverts who want to take this country down the toilet with them.

The penalty for the crime of homosexuality should be severe, however I am someone who has witnessed the power of Christ to change lives. So for the first offense I would like to see only 2-5 years in prison, but no more than that. Give them a chance to repent, I say. For 2nd and 3rd offenses, though, I would not be merciful. They've been warned.

First of all - "universe" - from the ?Greek?...Uni means "one" or "singular". Verse means "spoken sentence". Universe = "In the beginning, God created...." Get it?

[From the Free Conservatives site, who whine about FSTDT copying their quotes]

hahahahaha, all we do is reprint dems statements word for word and they consider that an attack!!! what a bunch of miserable losers.

[This poster is a creationist]

Nothing gets anywhere with these people. They are profoundly ignorant, serenely stupid, and irreverently condescending. They come to the discussion with barely a high school education and call people with college degrees uneducated. They make the most ignorant statements imaginable and then run around congratulating each other on their profundity. Not one of them can answer simple questions. Not one of them can think for themselves. Not one of them can muster an original thought.

[on the murder of John Lennon]

If a liberal is shot dead in NY, does anyone really care?

If a tree falls in the woods, does the bear give a shit?

**** JL. Mark David Chapman [the man who <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_David_Chapman" target="_blank">John Lennon</a>] knew what he was doing.

[on the murder of John Lennon]

I know I'm "far out" but he was an anti-American commie. Lennon needed killin'. He was single-handedly hurting America's effort in Vietnam and the world is better off without his politics.

If he's gay he needs to swith to the Democrat side today! Democrats love gay's and all they stand for.....AIDS....Broken homes.....Perversion....etc.

[Commenting on an <a href="http://www.idsnews.com/news/story.php?id=32916&adid=news" target="_blank">"Equality Bus" riding to homophobic colleges</a>.]

No they don't want to educate anyone as to personal values. They simply don't want anyone to have personal values. Everyone should share THEIR values. No one should be allowed to decide for themselves what they value.

These people can't be that dense, can they?

I have had an epiphany! I am converted! I am now an evolutionist. And it was so simple! I just turned off my brain, ignored logic, reason, math and probabilities, and put blind, credulous, undiscerning faith in the gospel according to an ape-faced 19th century atheist.

Christianity is reason and logic, reason and logic are threats to the Atheistic world view. Christianity = threat to Atheism...

[about evolution]

Molecular biology will be the weapon that defeats your 19th century religion.

Nice fake little story trolly trolly.

No social or fiscal conservative would be associated with FSTDT , I'm sorry but your just full of crap . Next Time try to at least be honest and say your anti-christian Bigot .

Listen guys, we're being sold a bill of goods that doesn't add up.

A virus causes a SPECIFIC disease. It MUST be present in the human body to be the CAUSE of the disease. AIDS is NOT a disease, but a condition brought upon the human body due to a septic condition within the body with which the human immune system cannot keep up.

That septic condition is caused by the introduction of fecal material into the bloodstream as a result of perforations in the rectum due to repeated anal intercourse. This is compounded by the use of "poppers" (amyl/butyl nitrate). Poppers relax smooth muscle tissue (sphincters being included) which makes anal intercourse less painful...they are also the leading cause of Kaposi's sarcoma - one of the main "symptoms" of "AIDS".

By the way - why is it that one of the most brilliant minds in virus research is all of a sudden "cut off" for nothing more than stating a contrary viewpoint? Especially when that man has the brains and research to back up his claims? WHY isn't HIS side of the argument being, at LEAST, investigated to see if it "holds water"?

Again, like I said, "money"....follow the money. We're being scammed and it stinks to high heaven.

There is nothing in the theory of evolution that is provable beyond a point at which two of every living thing could fit in an ark. After the great flood, there was a great divergence of life which could be called evolution. None of this is contradictory with the Biblical account of Genesis. Nothing that is KNOWN in science can contradict the Bible. It is the unknown, unproven, unobserved, unverifiable and untestable accusations of evolutionism that we object to being taught as proven science. We do not want our children taught lies. That wolves and coyotes could have a common ancestor is not beyond the realm of possiblity. That Gorillas and grapefruit have a common ancestor requires the believe in the impossible.

What should be taught is what is known, not the impossible theories of atheists wrapped up in lies and packaged as science.

The Vatican document is actually aimed at solving that issue. heterosexual men do not molest kids, homosexual men do.

Editors note: By request, FreeConservatives.com has been nominated as FSTDT's Outstanding Fundie Site of the Month!

FC completely swept the competition in all categories, excelling especially in the Intellectual Sterility relay race, the Egregious Racism decathlon, and finally everyone's favorite event the Sanctimonious Prick endurance competition.

Editors pick of favorite posts:
- Medved on evils of waiting until you're over 25 to have children

- Venus de Smilo on cleansing the gene pool of black people

- DoctorDoom on non-Cauc nutcases

- Beowulf on the Right to Life for American flags

- BarryG on the need for a total genocide of Muslim men, women, and children

Whether you're a left-wing liberal douche, or a right-wing conservative asshole, or a pansy libertarian, you just have to admit: these people are sick fucks.

Way to go, FC, you earned it! ;)

[A signature highlighting how well this fundie understand the nature of gravity]

You liberals are so friggin' dense, light couldn't escape the gravity well created by the empty space that should house a brain

[A screenshot of brilliantLiberal's comment on his <a href="http://www.fstdt.com/comments.asp?id=8115" target="_blank">All Time Cutest Fundie Award</a> that he won on FSTDT.com]

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[Regarding FSTDT.com]

If we ever countered with "Atheistic Liberalosers Say The Stupidest Things", it would require a separate Internet to handle the volume. Those idiots have been posting that list for a couple of years, no doubt for the benefit of the marching morons of the left who don't dare to come to VRWC sites for fear of being converted.

One supposes that there is a one-syllable-word version for the liberal intellectuals.

Inasmuch as the one or two libs at that Web liberaloony asylum who can actually read surf conservative BBs looking for things to post, here's my response to their useless site. I do hope that they accept in the spirit in which it is offered.

[Image of Homer Simpson with the words "Kiss my Ass"]

[Regarding FSTDT.com]

Any Asshole who names himself "Yahweh" and maintains a website dedicated to mocking conservatives certainly doesn't wish the best for us. Just more lies, from the children of the great liar.