Anybody who needs evidence to show that life beigins at conception is pro-murder, plain and simple.

God, However, IS testable, HAS been observed through the personage of His Son, and HAS proven Hisself to be the one and true God throughout the history of mankind. He HAS spoken directly to man. His words HAVE been recorded as spoken. God can be found by anyone who seeks Him. An alternative for origination cannot be found in His absence. Therefore, God alone offers the explanations for origination. Only God could create what is not possible to have been created. God alone is science.

What do you know about the gibbering, drooling village idiots who infest FSTDT like maggots on a turd? We've dealt with them for quite a while, and nothing can be said about them that is not completely believable. The combined IQ of that gang of imbeciles is numerically equally to the freezing point of hydrogen.

[Mirror, mirror...]

FSTDT cretins are too ignorant and immature to create, so they must copy the writings of others and make juvenile comments on them. Sister Hms did FC a large favor by booting the idiot's sorry arse out the door. No doubt the fool will brag about how we couldn't withstand the blazing wisdom of his brilliant posts and banned him to silence him.

Barely-postpubescent zit poppers like him live in a fantasy world where they are the heroes and heroines of the Web (the BB equivalents of Mary Sue and Gary Stu), oblivious to the fact that adults shake their heads and wonder what will happen when morons of that sort go out into the world.

What a pathetic lot.

IMO, atheists should not celebrate holidays.

Main Entry: 1 hol·i·day
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English haligdæg, from halig holy + dæg day
Date: before 12th century

1: HOLY DAY

If the pretentious, self-worshipping arsewarts really believed their arrant nonsense, they would refuse to have anything to do with holidays. Or maybe they should have their own unholidays, and celebrate the births of Dicky Dawkins and Chucky Darwin.

BTW, troll, I was one of those ignorant jerks for over 20 years, and then I matured.

Homosexuality is inherently a dead-end and a deviation from human (and other animals') design. It frequently results in physical and emotional damage, entirely separate from any such damage claimed to real or imagined discrimination.

Diagram A only shows a link amongst primates- not species. This ( although useful) does not prove evolution. The proof of evolution must lie in the missing link between human DNA and the DNA of other primates such as chimps. This has yet to be found; making evolution a highly flawed and ever changing theory guided by large amounts of guess work.

I am clearly not a scientific expert but thats my opinion, and I don't want anyone bothering me about it.

I have had an epiphany! I am converted! I am now an evolutionist. And it was so simple! I just turned off my brain, ignored logic, reason, math and probabilities, and put blind, credulous, undiscerning faith in the gospel according to an ape-faced 19th century atheist.

[Cindy Sheehan arrested during anti-war protest]

Wonderful, she'll be forced to shut her trap for awhile. The only way it could have been better is if she had been captured by Al Quaida and a video posted on the internet.

That church was wrong to praise him for his service to our nation. If the man was a gay member of the military, he did not serve honorably.

I said it before and i'll say it again. Evolution is nothing more than an atheology, the grand tale of creation without God. The billion year struggle of the survival of the species which resulted from a cosmic fart and culminating in man. It is the only way out that the atheists/socialist have, there is nothing else.

We all know, whether we admit it or not, that global warming is a scam and that all the price increases on gasoline are just to hype up rhetoric for the enemy(i.e. libs, dems and Al Quaeda).

I have come to the conclusion that anyone who believes in evolution is fundamentally an idiot.

Evo's are about as capable of original thought as your average Cocker Spaniel, only nowhere near as lovable. Take away the prepackaged lies at talkorigins.org and what do you have? Blustering punks who hate God and pretend that they are the masterminds of the universe.

Apes do not hold antipathy toward their Creator. Evos do not prove evolution, but de-evolution. They have spiraled backward in development to a sub-primate level. No wonder they look with reverence to animals which sniff each others asses and claim kinship.

I can't tell you how many times I've heard MORONS say that the only reason we don't fall into lock step with the LIE of evolution is that we don't understand the theory. The fact is that the only way you BELIEVE in evolution is if you don't understand the theory.

Let me say this clearly and distinctly. If you think that every living thing that exists on this earth came about because of chance mutations from one magical cell that magically appeared on a planet that came into existence by a magical "big bang" using a process that doesn't exist in nature from materials that could not have been created and which could not have existed eternally, you are an IDIOT!!!

Is that clear enough?

I'm 42 years old. I've listened to one MORON after another spew his asinine versions on discredited science for years. I UNDERSTAND your lie, I simply REJECT your lie. No go crawl up an ape's rectum and evolve!

['I am a <font color="red">deist</font>, because I don't know god, and don't believe that anyone else knows either.']

I think the word you're looking for is <font color="red">asshole</font>...

[On the repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell."]

There are things that are best just not talked about, much less openly celebrated. Queerness is one such thing. It is not normal and everyone knows it, but political correctness forces us all to pretend it's fundamentally no different from normal sexuality. It is different, and to deny that in official policy is to deny reality, which has its worst consequences in military settings. It encourages falsification and lying, which seriously undermine morale.

Most seriously of all, it tells the normal soldier that what makes him uncomfortable doesn't matter. IOW: HE doesn't matter. Queers comprise about 2% of the population, and they're more important than the 98%. Talk about favoritism, and it sets up a divisive dynamic. Normal men are equipped biologically to feel revulsion toward queers. Fighting against biology has you fighting against yourself, and that's the last thing you want or need in combat.

Some queers aren't a problem. They're the ones who lived with DADT. The problems will be those who want to push things. And they will.

I know this may sound a bit strange, but has anyone noticed that there has been a stagnation of sorts with regards to real breakthrough innovations in technology, medicine, etc. these days?

The technology for the things we have in our daily lives today was pretty much available to us or existed in some form 20-30-40 years ago.

I wonder what life would be like...I wonder what kind of technological and medical innovations we would have now if those aborted babies had been allowed to live?

The confederate flag stands for the America I love, one with states' rights and no redistribution of wealth. It stands for economic freedom. The new america under the marxists stands for none of that.

Bobby, you're a liberal. Your blind faith in global warming is automatic. If you seriously believe that man's puny efforts can alter the global climate, then you are not an atheist. You are ascribing godlike powers to humans.

Book, I must agree. Homosexuals are genetically defective, a defect that makes them turn away from God. Unfortunately the spread of this defective gene is hard to stop, since gays remain in the closet and marry for to plant their seed, then later proclaim their homosexuality. At this point the damage is done. Another problem is donating to sperm banks. Some are visibly too gay to even fool a woman into having relations with, and donate to sperm banks so women, *unknowingly*, birth their genetically defective children. I shudder to think of what these Godless criminals will think of next!

[Upon hearing this comment, a moderator stepped in and told Prayerrist he is a disgrace to Christianity and to leave the discussion!]

I can guarantee that if the faggots start joining the Military without hiding themselves, the weenies in command will bow down to their demands of this and that, and the demands will increase to the point that discipline will be 100 percent out the window. I can see the new training for warriors:

Seminars on living with an alternate lifestyle metrosexual warrior as your barracksmate.

Actually, atheists...the more one OBJECTIVELY studies geology, anatomy, physiology, astronomy and all the other SCIENCES, the more one becomes convinced there IS a God and that the universe we see is the work of His Hand

[More Insane Ranting about FSTDT]

I guess after awhile - the mental indoctrination of atheism and all the circular blowjobs that come with it in a forum like FISTED that help reinforce their charade - you begin to lose track of language itself to accomodate newer, less refined definitions. Inaccurate, is kinder. Wrong definitions of words entirely is in fact what it is.

My point is that they just take their ideas for granted and don't examine them any longer. Redhunter actually thinks that religion should be proved. That God should serve man. That God should be put on trial. That God should be man's caddy.

Is it stupidity or the incremental layers of assumptions that cause this kind of ignorance? They just assume that proof is a part of religion and don't question it, and why would they? They OWN proof, right? Its theirs. Therefore, it must bleed into everything. Proof.

And yet faith is antithetical to proof and vice versa. Best not to let that get in the way of their agenda. Better to use words that have lost all meaning in order to retain their screeching-like-a-high-pitched-whine world view.

Suffering and hardship are blessings from God. I never could understand that until I lived without hardship for 4 or 5 months.

[When asked how laws against marijuana and speeding were based on the 10 commandments]

Thou shalt not steal. By breaking those laws, one steals authority from the government legally instituted to govern us.

I took my kids out for ice cream (and no, I wasn't harassed by the border patrol), and two lesbians were making out next to the front door of the establishment. I was disgusted, but didn't say anything about it. I'm kind of ashamed of myself for not saying anything to the restaurant owner. It was all for public show. "Deal with our lesbianism wherever you walk" type of thing.

I don't care what they do behind closed doors, assuming no children are involved. But it's my business when I can't leave the house or turn on the TV without seeing that garbage.

Man with all his technology still cannot reproduce even the pyramids.

So heterosexual servicemembers should be forced to live with, dress and disrobe in front of, and shower with openly homosexual individuals?

How is that different from forcing heterosexual men and women to live in the same room, dress and undress in the same room, and shower in the same open bay showers?

Homosexuality is the product of a genetic defect or mental illness. The fact that homosexuals cannot procreate within their sexual identity makes it self-evident that it is not viable as a "lifestyle." It is a non-self-sustaining deviation.

As far as the individual who stated he would leave the service if "gays" are allowed to openly serve, I urge him to reconsider. I would advocate him joining what will undoubtedly be a very large sub-culture in the military (comprising both officers and enlisted) that will devote itself to thoroughly intimidating "open servers" to the point that they want nothing more than to permanently walk out the front gate and not look back.

The line has to be drawn somewhere.

The first time a couple of "open servers" walk into an NCO or Officers Club holding hands -- that club will become a "gay" bar.

Of course, you just write the names down of those who patronize the establishment. Then deal with them later.

['the problem when people don't believe in God is not that they believe nothing, it is that they believe anything.']

Not just anything, but anything that forwards their agenda. That's why 90% of atheists are also liberals.

Definition of a "Theistic Evolutionist:"
1. One who believes in God but not in His word.
2. One who doesn't believe anything God said but believes He must exist because there is no possible way the universe could invent itself.
3. One who doesn't understand evolution or God, but who wants to go to Heaven without wasting his time reading the Bible.
4. One who believes in the goodness of God but couldn't recognize evil if he were drowning in it.
5. A self deluded person who believes truth and lies can co-exist.
6. A warm weather Christian who buckles under when others lie about creation, thinking that if those who are smarter than he believe it it must be true.
7. An agnostic who pretends to be a religious to impress his neighbors.

The only way to believe in both the Word of God and evolution is to have a firm understanding of neither.

What amazes me is that the queers (they use the term) have the chutzpah to claim that they are being persecuted while this sick, degenerate culture caters to them in every possible way. It has reached the point that announcing publicly that one is a homosexual is a certain path to success.

"I'm sorry, sir, but based on your resume, you don't have the qualifications for that position."
"Did I tell you that I suck on penises?"
"No, you didn't. Well, now, let's just shred that resume and look over the great career opportunities that are open for you in the Obama administration."

A society that caters to perversion is doomed.

[On teacher-led school prayer.]

"if your kids were in Muslim majority area, would you say that it would be OK for teachers to lead children in prayers to Allah?"

Nope. But this isn't a Muslim country. It's a Christian country.

"I think leaving it up to the children and parents individually makes more sense than trying to get a whole group to agree that didn't come there for purposes of prayer."

I once thought that way, but that was before liberals made it unmistakably clear that they intend to bury Christianity. No consideration for it, no treating it on the same footing with any other religion, no civility toward Christians. They have declared war on Christians and Christianity and I, for one, am for fighting back and stomping the bastards into the ground. That would mean prayers to Jesus in the schools, the Ten Commandments over the entrance of any and every public building, crosses on public grounds at Christmastime, and so on, with the intent of making it perfectly clear who runs America.

I think it should be up to the teacher. Christian prayer only. Anybody wants to whine, they can shove it up their atheist communist Muslim Other ass. But the pledge should be mandatory in every classroom at the beginning of the school day. Time we started teaching kids to love America again, and all that made her great.

[Re. persecution of Christians in Iraq.]

Sometimes, you gotta fight fire with fire.

The Christians they are killing are peace loving.

I'd like to send a message to those Mussie fanatics, that in the future, for every Christian that is killed, then we will kill five of their so called 'moderate' muzzies here.

For every Christian Church that is invaded and Christians killed, five of their Mosque will be burnt to the ground, with all the liberal's moderate muzzies inside.

No, I'm not stooping to their level, I'm educating them. They don't know how barbaric it is, because it has never happened to them before.

Dear Mr Celluloid:

My straight marriage bond is lessened by a gay couple marrying, because now there's a guy in that marriage who is considered the same as my wife is in my marriage. Everyone knows he is really a she, but because of politics we're all going to pretend that he has a vagina and mounds on his chest and can reproduce, since that's what the word "woman" has always meant, not to mention the word "wife."

If you don't get it, dude, the debasement of common sense, of the English language and of human reason happens when we all play "let's pretend" so that somebody can feel like he's something he isn't. My marriage gets "lessened," as you put it, because we're all colluding by force and with no constitutional backing in adjusting reality to suit the whims of one bunch over another.

Politics should never be about whose tantrum will win today.

[Why is it okay to bow to the Pope and not the King of Saudia Arabia?]

You bow to the pope to show respect for his compassion and dignity as a great person. You don't bow to someone who beats women and uses hordes of religious police to murder and flog people who don't close up shop during prayer time to pray to the opium addicted, boy loving plaything of an older whore!

The Vatican is no Bahrain thats for sure.

[on falsifiability]

Evo's have stated time and time again here that the only "truths" they have are "truths" that can be proven false ....

huh ??

[Re FSTDT] Do you even KNOW what the hell you're talking about? Lesson time Liberal. For me to be a troll, that would mean I would have had to have come here, posted the message that got your panties in a twist, in an attempt to goad you into ragging on me. That's not what happened. One of you little pathetic liberal trolls went to another site, STOLE this post, plagiarized it here without my permission, and then took it out of context because you believe that makes you look intelligent. When in fact, all it does is reinforce our belief that among Liberals, there IS NO ORIGINAL THOUGHT. You can't come up with ideas on your own, so you are forced to steal them from other sites. Show some respect to your betters little girl. Go get yourself a hobby.

Markus666 loves to blather that he will only read from "peer reviewed" papers.It is just a narrowminded mindset I keep trying to point out.Just as he clearly dislikes "skeptics".He is hostile to anyone who does not belong to some "Ivy league" science club.It is pathetic to meet someone who is this bad.

Also, the truth of the matter is bob, we live in a democracy. Reguardless of what you would like to believe, if the majority of the people do not believe in evolution and want it banned, it should never be up to a judge to decide the will of the people, nor should it be up to elitist scientists who think they are better than ANYONE.

There is no question that intelligent design does not have the same scientific grounds as evolution, however truth is a matter of perception and not of reality in this case. The simple fact of the matter is, if the creationists are wrong, they die knowing their life meant something and die happy. [...]

The reason the scientists highlight evolution as the most fundamental principal in biology is thusly due to public attention will always lead back to the money tree, which will allow them to progress within the other fields of their sciences due to the attention of the public. Simply put, evolution is a crock to make money, whether it be true or untrue.

Evolution cultists have never been able to explain the evolution of the eye. That alone should convince everyone that evolution is absolute nonsense. On the other hand, we Creationists can easily explain the creation of the eye - the eye is God's Creation. QED!

[Evolution is not a religion]

Wrong. Evolutionism is based entirely on blind, gullible, undiscerning faith that countless trillions of impossibilities resulted in all life on Earth from non-life. It's the religion for atheists.

[... and much of what is in the Bible probably is mythology, or at least, allegory.]

Spoken like a blind, gullible, undiscerning atheist.

I'm not a Military General. I don't HAVE to formulate a battle plan and a presidential policy to enact a "kill them all" method. I don't give a shit if it CAN or CANT be done. My BELIEF STAYS THE SAME. Kill them ALL. Every last one of them. Maybe each person in America can be responsible for killing 10 muslims. When you killed your 10, go have a seat in California and wait till everyone else finishes. Once everyone is in California, we'll look around. Any muslims left? Yep... Ok, Start round two.

I don't give a shit HOW, just do it.

I am NOT of the mind that better 100 guilty should go free than one innocent be put to death. For one thing, the innocent might well be innocent of the specific crime charged yet be very guilty of numerous crimes not charged. The detainees at Gitmo are NOT innocent people. The grave injustice is to condemn other innocent people to death because of a misguided attempt to release an insane maladjusted jihadist based on some erroneous perception that because they might MIGHT not have committed a specific crime they are wholly innocent.

What I could never understand is the following:
If all of life originated from one cell, how could that animal become a plant or that plant become an animal? Evolution presupposes more impossibilities than creation, and unlike creationism there exists no supreme being capable of doing the impossible. In other words, evolution by any definition in the mind of any thinking person cannot possibly happen. The entire theory is based on science which cannot conform to the laws of science. It is circular reasoning in reverse; instead of arguments supported only by the arguments, it is science negated by the very science it uses as a base.

How these people can claim to bear rational argument is beyond me.

Define "nice". In the libleft argot, "nice" is politically correct, atheistic, God-hating, America-loathing, Bush-bashing, spineless, gutless, weak-kneed, appeasing, compromising, surrendering, and treasonous. IOW, "nice" is synonymous with "liberal".

Homosexuality is more than an unnatural act. It is toxic to any culture that embraces and normalizes the practice. No nation that has ever existed has existed for very long once it accepts homosexuality as normal sexuality. It comes in a package that includes every kind of perversion and licentiousness. That is what even countries that prohibit religion recognize.

[Am I the only one watching this board? There is some crazy shit going on in the flame war room!]

I don't know how this thread went from my original topic of eating feces, to rimming, to gargling menstrual blood, but my point was that homosexuals are just vile- that's it! Their deathstyle involves feces, and with them mingling among a society of normal people they will spread bacteria and possibly kill people. They can live their deathstyle amongst themselves-I could care less. But when they bring their disgusting habits into society I have a serious problem.

I'm so sick of Atheist trying to ruin things for everyone else. I say we torture them and make them suffer excrutiating pain. We'll see then if they STILL don't believe in God.

[Using an artists painting as evidence that gravity changed somehow, some way.]

The image above, from A. D. Stolyar's "Origins of Representational Art" clearly shows pliestocene artwork involving a mammoth elephant stretched out in full gallop.

Another anomaly involving gravity; that could not happen today

[Regarding FSTDT.com]

If we ever countered with "Atheistic Liberalosers Say The Stupidest Things", it would require a separate Internet to handle the volume. Those idiots have been posting that list for a couple of years, no doubt for the benefit of the marching morons of the left who don't dare to come to VRWC sites for fear of being converted.

One supposes that there is a one-syllable-word version for the liberal intellectuals.

Inasmuch as the one or two libs at that Web liberaloony asylum who can actually read surf conservative BBs looking for things to post, here's my response to their useless site. I do hope that they accept in the spirit in which it is offered.

[Image of Homer Simpson with the words "Kiss my Ass"]