(Context: This is a clip from a livestream by VTuber Shoto/Shxtou, where he and fellow streamer Zy0x read a hateful email sent to Shoto by a “fan”. The email is shown in a screenshot from 1:37 to 2.19.)
Hello, Shoto! I've been a fan for quite some time and I've been wanting to get this off my chest. I think it's time for you to realize that you are 100% gay. Bisexuality is NOT a real thing !!! I know for a fact you are 100% gay because the way you talk about men is with so much love and passion and with women, well, it's clear you feel no attraction or love for them. (I also think that the reason you say you are bisexual is so that you can satisfy your parents) I hope this makes you realize you are 100% gay !!! I hope you have a nice day/night!
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Don’t usually first-comment on my submissions unless it’s to add further context, but I gotta say this is just disgustingly parasocial, invasive of Shoto’s privacy, and bigoted as fuck. You don’t get to dictate how people identify or how they express their sexuality. Bi people– but especially bi men in this case– don’t need this sort of condescending support.
EDIT: Okay, disclosure of conflict of interest here: I kind of have a crush on Shoto. Not the guy behind the VTuber avatar, the avatar himself. Also I’m a bi/pan man myself, so this sort of stuff is personally offensive to me.
(I also think that the reason you say you are bisexual is so that you can satisfy your parents)
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I really wish people would stop doing the whole ‘I’m going to come out as bi because my family will accept that better and then later come out as lesbian/gay’ thing. I know there are some people that may think they are bi at first so they come out that way and then later maybe discover that they are much more monosexual than they thought. I’m not talking to those people, I’m talking to the people who know they are monosexual but use our orientation as some kind of disguise because they think we have it easier. And I’m also talking to people like Dan Savage who has said on his show that he thinks it’s ok for people to do this, that he doesn’t think it hurts anyone and I’m here to say that no it’s not ok and yes it does hurt people. It hurts bi and pan people.
It helps keep us invisible. It encourages people to try to “help” bi and pan people by encouraging us to stop identifying as bi or pan and come out again as gay, lesbian, or even straight depending on what someone’s majority attraction might be.
It also enforces the gross stereotypes of bi men as just confused gay dudes and bi women as slutty, performative attention seeking straights. And it encourages others to think of the identity as some sort disguise and thus not actually important.
We are not your disguise. Our identity is not for you to put on because it’s convenient and then discard when it’s not of use to you anymore.
Well, those streamers have, what they say on the internet, the receipts. What goes on the internet stays on the internet. Employers have this thing called Google. I hope this makes you realise that those who don’t have your wrong opinions will have more than just a nice day/night.
May you have a horrible rest of your life, OP.
“Hello, Shoto! I've been a fan for quite some time and I've been wanting to get this off my chest. I think it's time for you to realize that you are 100% gay.”
Exactly what business is it of yours?
“Bisexuality is NOT a real thing !!!”
Yes, yes, sure, sure. I believe you. You’ve spent all of zero years establishing your credentials as a sex expert.
“I know for a fact you are 100% gay because the way you talk about men is with so much love and passion and with women, well, it's clear you feel no attraction or love for them.”
Fact? you’re WAY off on how you spell ‘prejudice,’ sweetie.
“(I also think that the reason you say you are bisexual is so that you can satisfy your parents)”
I really do love people who tell me not only what I believe, but what my family believes. No one’s EVER been wrong saying i date with the goal of alienating and punishing my parents, nope.
“I hope this makes you realize you are 100% gay !!!”
Well, your argument is so well-informed and fact-strewn, how could it not?
“I hope you have a nice day/night!”
I hope ICE identifies you as accurately as you identify others.
@JustAnotherNight #264781
I think this is worse. At least with yaoi fangirls, the people they get pressed over are fictional. This one is forcing her vision on a real person. This is much closer to the people who believe Taylor Swift is a closet lesbian and are calling for her to come out.
@Yutolia #264748
I’m not so aware of how many people do that, but I do agree that it’s a shitty thing to do. The thing is I’m more angry at the people who use people dropping the bi/pan label as an excuse to discredit bisexuality/pansexuality in general.
Speaking as someone with bisexual tendencies, bisexuality is ABSOLUTELY a real thing. It has nothing to do with your parents, any more than it has to with your friends and peer group. You might find it difficult to understand, but that just means you have some learning to do.
Well, you’ve figured it all out, congratz! You obviously know better than actual bi and pansexuals how they feel. Apparently your brain is simply too smooth to understand how people can be attracted to a personality or vibe instead of genitals or gender.
@Yutolia #264748
I’d add my own personal pet peeve about idiots thinking that because you settled for a single partner of a given sex and attraction, you are suddenly gay/straight. I’m married to a guy in a rather straight relationship but I always have been and will be attracted to women as well.
I’m sure that the numerous people able to have romantic relationships with other people of both genders might disagree with you.
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@MixMasterMikaeus #264833
I agree, that also is really fucking irritating. I don’t understand what makes us so threatening that some people are so willing to believe anything that says we don’t exist.
@Skide #264902
Omg, I don’t know how many times I’ve had someone say ‘what, you’re straight now?’ or vice versa because of who I happen to be dating.
I think at least some of the people who say this shit are the same ones who think bisexuality means you have to have sex with both genders at the same time. It’s so stupid.
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