Modern Atheists are almost exclusively Christians in denial. Very few have achieved any sort of intellectual rejection of Christianity in its core values (ala Nietzsche). And because they have wholeheartedly swallowed the ethical presuppositions of Christianity, they get really mad when the moral picture of God—in the old testament for instance—or the state of the world around them conflicts with the atheists’ Lord and savior: Jesus Christ. Take your average Atheist, for example, waxing pathetic about how the ever present pointless suffering and evil in the world shows that there is no God.
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And that’s why the atheists get so mad: because they love Jesus Christ with all their hearts, their one and only true Lord, whose absence has destroyed all true meaning and longstanding joy from the atheist’s life.
[posts a stained glass image of Jesus]
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Sounds like Lincoln could be a case of this (from http://www.creationtheory.org/Essays/Phrases.xhtml )
Atheism
Normal Person's Definition (From Merriam-Webster): Disbelief in the existence of deities.
Fundie Definition: People who reject God.
Fundies cannot comprehend the concept of not believing in God.
They are utterly convinced that atheists secretly believe in God, but choose to reject him for some reason. Usually they believe that the atheist is angry or "bitter" about God, or that the atheist is guilty of some terrible sin and wishes to avoid "accountability" to God for his crimes.
Their dirty little secret is that they assume these things because that is how the fundies themselves have felt at least once in their lives, usually at some low point.
Oh man. Looked at the full text cor better understanding, and boy, this person is an idiot.
1. It's not the "Jewish" Bible that endorses slavery. It's the Bible. Aside from slavery instructions in the Old Testament, calls to obey Masters are in the New Testament. Also there is a lack of saying that you shouldn't own slaves, which is silly when there are verses reversing God's stance on say. the dietary requirements and divorce.
2. Abolitionism in Europe was spawned during the Enlightenment, which is not exactly the most religious movement.
3. Saying "This figure you talk about and I believed has a list of characteristics that make them unlikely to exist. That is why I k how longer believe X." Is not the same as "Oh, my feelings are hurt. Screw you, X. P.S. I love you."
4. Christianity does not have a monopoly on evil. I'd be happy to argue while certain moral and ethical situations are subjective to a point, objectively evil and good acts exist. It certainly is based on the definitions, but doesn't presuppose or endorse any religious nonsense.
5. Could go on, and might as an edit, but... goodness. Not a good argument at all.
The Old Testament is Stil part of the Bible that Christians tend to cherry pick their words as what happens to fit in the moment is a monumental sign that either something is wrong or nobody ever f*cking red that damn thing.
Atheist don’t believe in god or Jesus that’s the point. They get mad at you when you for the hundredth time tell them what YOU think they believe and argue against strawmen
...and as another Lincoln - Abraham - said:
When I do good, I feel good. When I do bad, I feel bad. That's my religion
Oh, and how can I - an Atheist since my teens decades ago - be a Christian who's never been to a certain river in Egypt, OP...?! [/Doug Piranha-levels of sarcasm]
Ramses II - one of ancient Egypt's pharaohs, and was worshipped as a god - physically existed: DNA analysis of his mummified remains does the case for his existence no harm whatsoever. Your move, OP.
As Isaac Asimov said:
Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for Atheism ever conceived
It's certainly how I became an Atheist: since my teens decades ago.
How intellectual can you get...?! Or in your case - as you haven't done as one of the giants of Sci-Fi has suggested - not.
This is not a compelling argument. I really hope this claptrap was not intended to sway anyone to his side, because it’s a massive failure. Like all the other excuses for arguments they vomit up.
The only “gods” in my life are sex, drugs & rock & roll.
Um, you ever notice even Christains don't get their morals from the bible? All that dross about not charging interest on loans, giving LOTS to the poor, don't be wealthy, forgive, forgive, don't judge, forgive??
You guys say the right words, but you have developed your morals independent of the litany.
Just like atheists.
At least Atheists dont hide behind Deity and claim a moral high ground when they do harm or make an ass of themselves like Christian's do.
There is a very good reason people are walking away from organized Christianity, Peachum...
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