The odds of one man fulfilling forty-eight prophecies is 1 chance in 10,157 (a statistical impossibility). Jesus fulfilled over three hundred prophecies. Case closed.
4:05 AM · Sep 20, 2024 · 1,819 Views
11 Reposts 60 Likes 7 Bookmarks
6 comments
First, prove that Jesus actually did those “300 prophecies”. Retroactively (as in, a prophecy that suddenly always existed after Jesus died) doesn’t count. Secondly, accurately list at least 50 of those supposed “prophecies”. After that, we’ll talk further.
1. How do you arrive at that probability?
2. Can you show me each of these three hundred prophecies?
2a. Why is none, not one, of the core prophecies about the Messiah among them?
3. How can we be sure that everyone of these prophecies actually occurred, rather than at least partially - and very likely the largest part - being embellishments, given that the only detailed account of the events are overt propaganda pieces by the cult itself, written decades later? And no, “it says ‘trust mme bro’!” does not count, and neither does “it just feels right”.
PS:
One in 10,157 is very far from “a statistical impossibility”. In fact, that would mean that there are currently around eight hundred thousand people who fulfil such forty-eight prophecies. And really, that seems like an oddly high probablity for forty-eight independent events (that is, the unfounded assumption all stochastic arguments at big scary number rely on) - that would give each prophecy a chance of slightly more than 89.25 % .
“The odds of one man fulfilling forty-eight prophecies is 1 chance in 10,157 (a statistical impossibility).
Jesus fulfilled over three hundred prophecies. Case closed.”
Oh, the case isn’t even taking tea time.
How do you calculate this? What are the ‘odds’ of fulfilling A prophecy? If it’s a ‘prophecy’ it’s a promise from God, right? There are no odds involved. God said it, it had to happen.
And what are the odds if you have full editorial power of the record? Not all the scriptures about the Christain Messiah made it into the Bible. Just those that supported the Articles of Faith that Constantine had hammered out. So if there were a prophecy he did NOT fulfill, and they did not include that book in the ultimate Bible, how is that reflected in your calculations?
Also, SOME Of the prophecies of the messiah were not fulfilled. Instead, some scripture like a dietary rule not to break the bones of the feast roast were turned into prophecies in later editions. “Look, look, no bones were broken in his crucifixion, God be PRAISED!”
I really don’t think any of these claims stand up to scrutiny. The math sure looks like numbers you pulled out of your fucking ass.
Now fundies are trying to prove that Jesus was God Incarnate through ... statistics.
I guess they've exhausted history, theology, and war, so they're going to try math. And when that fails, what comes next? Interpretive dance?
Via temples, stelae etc ordered to be built, also possessions owned by such, we’re 99.99% certain that Ramses II existed.
I guess a DNA-analysable body just puts the ol’ .01% tin lid on things.
Your use of statistics would make inventor of the Pie Chart Florence Nightingale weep: with laughter. Ramses II is laughing at you too: and he’s dead.
At least there’s an actual person doing so from the ancient Egyptian afterlife at that which doesn’t have a single scrap of evidence to prove its existence.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
To post a comment, you'll need to Sign in or Register . Making an account also allows you to claim credit for submitting quotes, and to vote on quotes and comments. You don't even need to give us your email address.