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Various Commenters #pratt #racist #wingnut

Sorry, but it’s kind of hard to understand what you are saying. Are you saying that you would think of me as a racist and right wing? If not then you need to edit this comment. No offense.

For the second part, yes. That is what I am trying to get at. Xenophobia was likely beneficial to us in the past. But, genetics is pretty important. I’m sure that lots of racists/xenophobes are afraid of people different from them for no good reason. They may be scared of them, and again, for no good reason. Except having retained that as a primitive trait that likely ensured the survival of our ancestors.

@Skide #94667

When I say “melting pot of cultures”, I was thinking about people from different cultures mixing enough to become one type of people with really no culture at all. Or celebrating multiple cultures in their heritage. The leftist part is true. Doesn’t take much to find anti-white leftists on YouTube. At least I don’t think it is. Take Tariq Nasheed for example. I’m pretty sure he is a leftist, despite being against Kamala Harris for some reason. And when I said “lots of leftists”, I don’t mean majority or even all that much. I meant that there a quite a few that you can find.

Also, I didn’t say that racism and xenophobia are right. I’m just saying that it is, for the most part, a part of our nature. Not everybody, however. I don’t mean to imply that we are all racists/xenophobes. Because not everyone retains primitive traits. Racism and xenophobia aren’t beneficial for our survival anymore. You act like that just because we are highly intelligent that means racism and xenophobia are inexcusable. Again, I don’t support those two, and agree with what you are saying, but it may be part of the nature of a lot of people. The best thing for those kinds of people, then, would be to try and suppress those behaviors in some way. But it’s likely that we won’t be able to breed such behaviors out of our species, at least not for a long time. Reason being, of course, that racists and xenophobes tend to reproduce a lot, too. If they reproduce more than non-racists/non-xenophobes do then that makes it even more unlikely that we can breed racism and xenophobia out of our species any time soon.

Also, are you sure that lots of people agree that racism and xenophobia stem from territoriality? That’s just a theory for me. Lots of people say that racism is learned, which is true. But that’s only part of it. The obvious part, that is. We know that a lot of people learned racism from their parents. And those peoples parents learned racism from their parents. The bigger question would be: How and why did it start? And by looking at the territorial behaviors of other apes, we may be able to figure that out.

Again, however, I do agree with most of what you are saying.

Open borders won’t happen because we tend to defend territory. That is a natural behavior for us. Similar thing for immigration but immigration is more likely to happen. Some people are against immigration perhaps due to, like I said, the fact that we defend territory. We also tend be wary of humans or hominids of other groups, as we overlapped in ranges with other species of humans and hominids and likely fought for resources, territory and even mates. A melting pot of cultures likely won’t happen either for reasons already stated above. There are lots of people who want to preserve their culture. Mixing with other cultures could mean that those cultures could be lost.

Even among leftists, there seem to be a lot of people who are for their own race and possibly against another race. Which means that they don’t want to mix cultures. And like I have said, racism and xenophobia perhaps stem from territoriality. Most people tend to side with people who are most familiar to them. People who look like them a lot. They side with those people for comfort, safety and defense. You may think that if someone is racist and/or xenophobic, then they are just a jerk and you shouldn’t let yourself get offended by them. That is somewhat true, but there is much more behind it than you think. There is much more to our nature than we think. And we can find out more about ourselves if we stop writing off certain behaviors or opinions as just being mean or something like that.

Franklin #fundie #dunning-kruger #pratt

I find it very difficult to understand people like you. I just don’t get why you deny your relationship with the other great apes. You make society more difficult to fit into. We should live more like apes. Because that is who we are. Living more like gorillas, orangutans, chimpanzees, bonobos. I don’t get why so many of us refuse to admit that apes are family to us. We could be wild and free if we live like and co-exist with the other great apes.

David Noel #dunning-kruger

@ChrisBP747 #94545

Biologically, of course, all humans are very closely related. But, it seems like you are acting like that saying there are races at all is racist in and of itself. If I am misinterpreting what you’re saying, then I apologize. But, wouldn’t you say that it’s easy to see why people have grouped eachother in different races? The differences are so easy to see, even despite the genes being similar. We can’t act like that the only grouping of humans is just humans. Grouping eachother in different races is natural as we can easily recognize the differences. If you can distinguish between two races with ease, then of course we group eachother into those categories. Racism and xenophobia, however, are different. I think that racism and xenophobia stem from territoriality. Which would make sense, if you think about it. Such aggression would be necessary if our ancestors had to fight other hominids or species of the genus Homo for resources such as food and water. Perhaps they fought over mates, too. Neanderthals, Heidelbergensis, Paranthropus, just to name a few. I’m not saying that other races are different species, but if we can easily distinguish between them, then racism and xenophobia being tied to territorial behavior may make at least some sense. What do you think?

@SpukiKitty #94540

The quote doesn’t imply that he dislikes other races of people. He just thinks that different races of people evolved independently. (I think so) You are just reading racism into it, if I’m not mistaken. Of course, the idea of race science or whatever this is has been used to say that whites are superior to other races, but that wouldn’t be true anyhow. If races of people are as different as race science has suggested, no race is superior over the other anyway. If one race of people have more prominent chins and noses than another race of people, that doesn’t imply any superiority over another race. If one race of people have what some people may perceive as more “ape-like” skulls, (Such as a less prominent chin and a more protruding mouth) that does not mean that said race of people is inferior. If you think that makes a race inferior, then that might mean that you think the other great apes are inferior to humans, which is perhaps almost as bad as how lots of fundies outright deny our relations to the other great apes. Of course, I am not saying that one race has a different skull from the other, I was just providing an example.

Also, if I am wrong about some things here, please do educate me. I have not educated myself that much on the idea/philosophy of race science. So don’t start getting mad at me because I didn’t know something. Just teach me.

nosajleb #fundie #homophobia #psycho

@pyro #94364

I’ll admit, I was being a bit harsh when I said that. If I sounded racist, then I apologize. I also apologize to the OP despite his homophobic comment because what I said does not sound helpful to the issues of racism and homophobia.

Theo Tsourdalakis #fundie #pratt

“Ask yourself: What evidence is there that our great …. Great grandfather was a bacterium?”

Grandfather would not apply as bacteria are not male nor female.

“There is significant dissent from Darwinism. For proof of the dissent to go http://www.dissentfromdarwin.org/ and download the list of brave scientists who are willing to publicly declare their dissent from Darwinian/Macro evolution.”

What’s brave about that? It’s just that they won’t be taken seriously. They probably “publicly declare their dissent” based on the typical small monkey-to-man linear chart. That’s not how evolution works.

And it’s represented as science against religion because that’s what it is. You literally cited Stephen Meyer, who advocates for intelligent design.

Why not apply the scientific method to creationism? Go on. Show us if you can scrounge up any shred of “evidence” (of which you would probably interpret wrongly) for your little “theory”, which you spout off as “fact”.

No good science can come from creationists. Your agenda to enslave us to your ideology will not prevail.

Stephen Thomas Blume #fundie #pratt

nosajleb #fundie #homophobia #psycho

And you have the AUDACITY to complain about your people being oppressed? You aren’t making a really good case that you shouldn’t be oppressed. Especially when you say such vile things about people that aren’t doing anything to you at all. In fact, maybe you should be put on a LEASH and walked LIKE A DOG until you learn how to be a FUNCTIONING member of society.

Stephen Thomas Blume #fundie #pratt

WTF? It still looks a lot like an ape. And apes look a lot like us. Just look at infant apes. Their heads are very similar in shape to ours, but are less so as they age. One does not even need to look at fossil or genetic evidence to see that we share ancestry with the other great apes. Physical similarites are quite enough to see that.

But you don’t want to admit that, do you? You are too arrogant to admit that the other great apes are brethren to humans. You don’t care about the similarites. You don’t care about the evidence. You would rather complain and talk shit about Al Gore on Quora than unleash your primal and wild instincts and connect with our brethren. I am proud to be an animal. I am proud to be a primate. I am proud to be an ape. We all should.

Pastor Greg Locke #crackpot #conspiracy #wingnut

Yukon Jack #crackpot #racist #conspiracy #wingnut #quack #homophobia

Not related to the quote, but if any mods see this, is it possible that we could have longer excerpts when posting quotes? I find it very frustrating to have to post things in 2-4 different parts due to that rule even when the entire thing is not all that long to read. I get why it was put in place (to prevent very long quotes that people don’t want to read being posted), but I feel like it’s a bit too short.

ABDULAZIZ ALI #moonbat #dunning-kruger

@Titania #94013

Agreed. I just don’t understand how some people can be so inhumane, vile, and cruel. How can anyone bring themselves to do something so degenerate? How can anybody be so terrifyingly evil? Millions of years of evolution, for some people to use their great intelligence to do things like this?

Very strange indeed.

Gabriel Erb #fundie

@Timjer #94069

That’s because the Jewish religion isn’t really monotheistic, if I am not mistaken. It’s henotheistic. So they try to reconcile the scriptures with monotheistic beliefs, and it just doesn’t work.

Matt Powell #fundie #dunning-kruger

Nope. The rate of extinction is higher than the rate of speciation, due to poaching, global warming, etc. It takes millions of years for families of animals to evolve, too.

IsraelChurchofJesus7 #fundie #psycho

“receive an immortal body” What? There is no evidence for that in The Bible. Lots of fundies say that and it’s a good example of grasping for straws.

Also, if you were to be immortal, how could you get hurt? What kind of sense does that make? Does that mean people in heaven would be able to still stub their toes?

Michael Rood #fundie

Whoops. Looks like I can’t post the other part (or 2 parts) today. (I can only post 2 quotes from same domain) Sorry.
If someone could post the part of the transcript that comes after what I posted, I’d really appreciate that.

2028 END (Gabriel Erb) #fundie

@ShyKiller #93945

Thanks for your reply. I do appreciate kind words for comfort.

Also, about your comment abobut “bias in favor of the christian god”. Well, Islam has had kind of a tug on me, too. Specifically Qu’ran-only Islam. A website called quransmessage.com. The person on that site, Joseph A. Islam, seems to give a lot of evidence for his position (I guess. Kind of). He’s not a fundie, tho. He seems to be really nice and does not have any inherent bias for any religion. I’m not trying to advertise this dude AT ALL, but if you wanna check it out, go for it.

Ya know, I hope that if God does exist, he is a universalist. Perfect love casts out fear, and he makes all things new. I hope that his love casts out the fear of that hell doctrine, and that he will make all things, even sinners and fallen angels, new. Everyone and everything (Humans, animals, fallen angels, Nephilim, etc) living in peace, love, compassion, and tranquility in the Kingdom of God.

Doesn’t that sound amazing to you, too?

@pyro #93896

Well, is there any evidence to support his claim that the feast of trumpets was known to the jews as “no man knows the day or the hour”?

Also, I am trying not to sound ridiculous. But it’s not so easy to be care-free. Hard when you ponder if a fundie could be right, even when there is considerable evidence against the case they are presenting. Again, I attribute it to OCD. Compelled to keep checking these claims, stacking them up against contradicting evidence, yet still obsessively worrying about the situation. Oh? His local fire station is #28 and he is using that as evidence that Jesus will return in 2028? Of course, you could chalk it up to mere coincidences, along with the other confirmations (20 copies of his book per box, each rounded up to 28 pounds, dreams that he had and others had that involved the number 28, etc.), but a person like me sometimes will think about the what if scenario. That there is a possibility no matter how small, that he is correct. Saying that I sound ridiculous implies that you do not want to understand me. I just ask that you try to understand me, even if I am making far-fetched claims.

idk guys. He seems kinda legit. He isn’t KJV-only, he doesn’t believe in pre-tribulation rapture, he believes that Christmas was originally a pagan holiday, he isn’t a supporter of Trump, he knows that Saturday is the actual Sabbath, etc. Not only that, the “confirmations” on his website (which you could say are coincidences but seem too weird for it to be that) could be evidence that he is right.

I’m agnostic. I don’t know if he is telling the truth. That’s why I posted a thing he said here. To be refuted. Because he also believes in the traditional hell doctrine and if he is right, then I am scared af. I want people to refute him based on actually knowing what he is talking about, rather than going “no man knows the day or the hour, remember?”, since he has a counter to that, too. (which is in this quote)

I guess I might sound ridiculous to some of you here, but don’t make fun, plz. Could be the (probable) fact that I have OCD, idk.