TokenAtheist

@TokenAtheist

distantmajin & various contributors #ableist #crackpot #psycho

Prometheus #fundie #pratt

I’ll take an evolution is as scientific as the speed of light comparison all day!

Shana Schutte #fundie #kinkshaming

My brother’s a pastor and while he “kept himself for marriage,” he told me that now he has no expectation whatsoever that anyone else do so and simply assumes that any couple that asks him to marry them are already sleeping together. He said it would be weirder if they weren’t, really, and that it doesn’t figure into his thought process, preaching, or counseling. I’ve also known conservative pastors who thought that sex itself counts as marriage in God’s eyes, so it doesn’t really matter if it is before or after the vows are exchanged, only that the couple is faithful to one another.

David J. Stewart #fundie #homophobia

Benj-amin #conspiracy #sexist

Didn’t she coin the word “incel,” as a bit of a contraction of words that already appeared together?

Rodney M. Cluff #crackpot #ufo #fundie #dunning-kruger

Various Incels #crackpot #racist #sexist

My sister is pushing 5′11″ and she’s considered pretty darn tall. I’m under 5′9″ and My brother is about 6′1″. . I’ve only known one woman over six feet tall in my half on a personal basis and she was a college basketball player. Never in my life have I been intimidated by the height of any man or woman, nor has it ever been a factor in attraction in either direction. These guys will obsess about anything but their own personalities. For FSM’s sake, I was a divorced, fat, average-looking bi-polar single dad of four and in a lot of debt when I met my wife and yet we still hit it off from the start.

Pastor Greg Locke #dunning-kruger #quack

Reminds me of when people say they believe in adaptation, but not evolution–they just get hung up on the word rather than what it actually means. Then, a couple of probing questions later, they say they don’t believe birds hatch from reptile eggs in one generation. You gotta define your terms if you’re going to deny them!

Feynman and Coulter's Love Child #transphobia #homophobia #sexist

You don’t get decide the names or identity of another adult. I’ve got trans (adult) kids. They have gone to great effort, including years of counseling, and bothered to go to court to get their names changed. They're my kids, I changed their diapers and raised them, yet I never struggle with their names or genders and practically even forget that they are trans sometimes because they pass so well and genuinely live as their expressed gender in every respect. Then along will come a relative that deliberately deadnames them. Guess how often my kids come around after that? I don’t know that they’ve seen grandma for at least a couple of years, and others much, much longer. One kid changed their last name too now, feeling like it is just too much baggage. And to what benefit? There are several nicknames in use in the family; it isn’t that hard!

Dustin Koellhoffer #dunning-kruger #wingnut #racist

I went to college in my thirties and they did in fact offer credit for life and work experience, which I refused because I *wanted* to take as many classes and thus learn and be challenged as much as possible. A major area of emphasis in my study was Eastern European Economics, specifically how the economy and population fared under communism as compared to the emerging free market. Neither in the College of Business & Economics (Business Major) nor in the College of Arts & Sciences (Communications emphasis) did I ever have a single professor extol the virtues of a communist government, with the exception of one guest speaker when I was studying abroad. In her case, she had seen an erosion of women’s rights under the democratically-elected leadership and wondered why supposedly “free” markets disproportionately favored well-connected men. One could argue with her conclusions, but not her experience, as they were her own rights that she was losing.

metabuxx #sexist #psycho

Where does this belief that there is a detectable external difference based on experience even come from? Does this magic shape-shifting only happen to women or can you also identify which men are virgins just by looking around the locker room? Even if it were somehow true, how could they expect to tell the difference between someone who had a lot of sex with one partner and someone who had a little sex with a lot of partners? What’s next, areola color or breast size also being obvious indicators of some kind? The whole thing is just bizarre to the point of insanity.

ShySaxon (“Obergruppenführer of SS Division “Incelistan””) #fundie #crackpot

Runaway external loci of control! Nerdy underweight short people achieve success in a multitude of ways, including relationships and careers, but they don’t achieve anything sitting around complaining about it in these forums. I’ve said it a thousand times, they are products of parents who, by definition, scored sex, in most cases regularly. It is unlikely that any of these guys are significantly worse off than both parents.

Dan Manka #fundie

SlayerSlayer #crackpot

Most electronic medical record programs have “sexual history” after “surgical history.” Does this person really think people there’s something magical about it? Trust me, no one taking these from a new patient thinks anything of either or both sections being blank.

The Meme Policeman #elitist

You can give it back to the treasury or give it to charity if you feel strongly about it. My libertarian-leaning fiance gave her stimulus away the same day she got it; no moral quandary involved and no fight with or from me, even if I had no problem keeping my share.

David J. Stewart #fundie #racist #sexist #homophobia #wingnut #conspiracy #pratt

Hey, I have my picture and a profile of my then-wife and me in that magazine in 2013! It was about the “successful” marriage of a reasonably popular Christian blogger to an atheist. The thing was, while it was true when it was written and when they did the photo shoot, so much time had passed that by the time it was actually printed, she was having an affair with the worship leader at church, unbeknownst to me or the rest of church leadership. She left me and the kids a week or two later, having realized that with more exposure than ever, someone, somewhere was going to discover it. And that was it. The blog went cold and the domain expired, her church kicked both of them out immediately, and our divorce was final in mere weeks. I raised the kids as a single dad for years. As grown but young adults, they’ve moved in with her, but the time is lost and the hard part is already over. She and her new husband have tried to get their jobs back at the same church, but were told to pound sand. She tries a new blog out every once in a while, but they never last and I doubt she’ll ever have 1% of the readership she once had.

Yall-suck #transphobia

I’m thinking if my adult trans son came into the women’s restroom, these same folks would report him to security as some kind of creep. These folks seem to be incapable of realizing that they already share restrooms with trans individuals and probably always have. Further, yes, faced with a binary choice, some people do use whichever restroom they “feel” like at the moment. Another of my adult offspring is gender fluid and this is precisely what they do. Honestly, they are so amazingly androgenous that they never get questioned or funny looks, regardless of which one they choose. Further, I see more and more restaurants going to unisex restrooms, even in small, rural towns in Trump country, as many only have room for one anyone and gender or sex really don’t need to come into it.

Edmund_Kemper #sexist #transphobia

As I’ve said before, two of my four adult kids are trans. Good luck to this person trying to pick out which two at odds better than chance.

Ap0calypse #sexist #quack #crackpot

In the absence of some catastrophic event or wide-spread toxicity, the most common outcome of a physical trait is normal definition. We may well enter a transhuman era soon enough wherein we are all augmented in one way or another, but it probably won’t be by the use of chemicals with such harmful and paradoxical side effects.

BlkPillPres #psycho #quack

It’s kind of sort of true that UV light can kill certain pathogens, but it is only on surfaces and isn’t any better than run of the mill disinfectants that are probably much easier to obtain and more efficient.

Ropemaxx #sexist #crackpot

It’s probably bullshit, but even if the correlation were right, the causality could be reversed. Maybe well-adjusted, mentally stable, outgoing, and intelligent people are more likely to find a partner in their teens than a narcissistic, entitled, sexist misanthrope. How can one simultaneously hate all women and feel like they are missing out by not having a partner? Do they really think sex is some magic, life-changing pill more than other temporary rushes of endorphins, be them from exercise, food, or intoxicating substances? I mean, geeze, by choice I didn’t have sex until my twenties, then my wife left me pretty much out of nowhere and it was like 7 years of single parenthood of four psychologically traumatized kids that precluded even the possibility of a one-night stand, much less a relationship. You know what? I kept my job, learned some new skills, and remained a generally productive member of society. Sometimes the best decisions come from having no one to tell you not to do it! Even now, my current fiance and I live in different states and can go for long periods without seeing it other. Your attitude about sex isn’t going to get better simply by having it; if it and you are unhealthy, you will remain so. I’ve seen it with certain former addicts, who manage to get off of the substance, only to continue some other unhealthy attitude or personality traits.

Ap0calypse #crackpot

I’ve said it a million times, an incel is unlikely to look significantly worse than his parents, who necessarily found a way to procreate, so how can it all be the fault of genetics?

Roger Marks #fundie #dunning-kruger

My high school biology teacher did everything possible to undermine evolution, including stressing strongly that it is a theory, not a fact AND giving extra credit for papers about “alternatives.” She was the sponsor of the Bible Club at school and a minister herself, so it is not as if her motivations could be questioned. Of course, I would go on to become the president of the Bible Club, so it didn’t bother me then, but it does now, and I hope my own kids got better.

feesu-san #fundie

LAS3DCreations #wingnut

A Facebook friend today claimed that Bernie’s plans would add 500 Trillion, yes trillion dollars in new spending. I don’t know where they come up with this stuff. I have serious doubts that any country that elected Trump would elect Bernie a mere four years later, but let’s at least live on the same plane of reality.

The 2019 Fundie Of The Year Awards - Voting! #announcement

Can we do this in something like Survey Monkey or something clickable next year? Might be easier from phones and tablets.

Personalityinkwell #sexist

I don’t recall ever having had a “sexual strategy,” and certainly not one to a degree that would have distracted me to the point of poor academic performance. Perhaps incels have a poor theory of mind and can’t perceive that women are thinking, feeling people with similar desires and interests. Come on, think about it mathematically; even if you have more sex than most and it is better for you than most others, as a percentage of time spent, it just isn’t that much. You’re going to spend far more time working, sleeping, and doing comparatively mundane activities. What you really need to ask is “if there were no such thing as sex, would I still want to spend this much time on and with this person.” I’ve only had one relationship where the answer was “no,” and in retrospect, it was the most miserable time of my life. Everybody in my life could see it but me. If my current fiance were disfigured or disabled today, I would still want to spend my life with her. These guys need to learn to be that somebody for another person instead of spreading the blame on everybody else.

Mr. Pumpkinface #conspiracy

Declan Finn #wingnut

Names three enemies as conspirators and says the left is the side that is unified. When has this been the case in the U.S.? Has the person seen the primaries? The left is like herding cats by comparison. They want to go somewhere else, but can’t agree on where that is. The right has its economic and social factions, but they tend to hold together when it counts.

Incels Wiki #sexist

Funny, I’m a cis guy who is getting married soon. We are in our 40s. She is the one that proposed and she has a better-paying job, a bigger house, a nicer car, less debt, and more education than I do, and it’s not as if I am a passive or timid person.

Ap0calypse #sexist

For FSM’s sake, look at your own parents! If you are “average” or even “below,” they probably are too, and you wouldn’t be here if they weren’t getting busy. Shouldn’t it be self-evident that this is where the whole thing falls down?

dagur-berserker #conspiracy #racist

Citation badly needed on the Finnish study, but even if true, how do you draw a line from having an abortion to being more likely to die in an accident or be murdered than someone who hasn’t?

Selwyn Duke #transphobia #dunning-kruger

sleazygirlapproacher #sexist #crackpot

Ever get the feeling that a lot of the people on the electric scooters at Wal-Mart wouldn’t “need” them so much if they didn’t USE them so much? It is pretty much self-described inceldom in a nutshell. It is both the cause of and the excuse for the condition.

Vermilioncore #sexist

“Sex is for reproduction only.” Then says it can also be for a man’s pleasure.

Uglyme #sexist #crackpot

Given that we all have parents who probably aren’t any more or less attractive than us as individuals overall, and that more people than not have meaningful relationships regardless of appearance, income or approximate intelligence, it stands to reason that personality and attitude go a long way in determining whether and what kind of relationships you have or don’t have. Sure, it’s a little like unemployment in that not everyone finds the candidate they are looking for in the time period they are looking for them, but for the most part, the “system” works. Only by opting out of it and dismissing every woman as a “foid” is one unlikely to find anyone. My fiance is pretty socially awkward and never had a single serious relationship before me (we’re in our mid-forties), but she didn’t dismiss men as being terrible out of hand or believe it was impossible to find someone. This whole incel business is just self-fulfilling. It is also unrealistic. I suspect that if there were some kind of approximate formula taking into account looks, income, intelligence, personality, etc., most people in successful long-term relationships have the most compatibility with someone of a similar “score” to themselves. These guys seem to be looking at near or actual celebrities as the only possible mates, while simultaneously dismissing even them as hollow and vacuous for not simply being a plaything and trophy wife.

tehgymcel420 #transphobia

How does this person know? It is kind of the point of being trans or even non-binary. Also, how can one on the one hand state how ugly he himself is and in the same breath denigrate the looks of another person who may or may not be biologically female? I have four grown kids. Two are trans–one MTF and one FTM. I defy these bigots to pick them out of the lineup when they’re fully dressed. I practically forget myself now that it has been this way for so many years.

mylifeistrash #sexist

This makes no sense. People with jobs, long commutes, hobbies and even kids find partners all of the time. Many, if not most, met their current partner after college. In fact, college works against a lot of people who are working their way through school because they have less social time than they will later. I’m 44 and my fiance is 45. She works 40-50 hours a week, commutes in excess of 15 hours a week AND is a full-time student pursuing a master's. We met, got engaged and may well get married in the midst of this. There are a 168 hours in a week. I’m guessing this person spends a lot of time posting and complaining about not being able to meet anyone instead of using that time to actually meet someone.

Focus on the Family #fundie

I grew up in an evangelical household in the height of the “satanic panic” and as a result, have not played and really have minimal understanding of the mechanics or objectives of the game. However, it seems to have a positive effect on my kids, encouraging creativity, teamwork and much-needed social interaction, as well as leadership opportunities in being a DM from time to time. I really can’t fully follow or appreciate what they are up to in the character creation and various campaigns, but I don’t have a negative word to say about any of it. These otherwise shy kids have something that keeps them engaged and their minds active, even on vacation or through the summer. How this can be a negative thing is beyond me, unless one is simply opposed to “pretend” play in general.

Debbie Roark-Kuhn, studied at Pennsylvania State University #fundie

Mike78 #transphobia #conspiracy

As a parent with some older or even grown trans kids, I always wonder if these yahoos would even pic out the right ones of the bunch! None of the features they’re describing are exclusively given to cis men and withheld completely from cis women. It might seem strange, but I’ve all but forgotten which child was born which way at this point in their lives. They live names, lives, appearances and mannerisms of a certain gender, identify as such and pull it off convincingly enough to fool the guy who changed their diapers. I say “carry on” then. Yes, the are the subtle reminders here and there, the man needs a binder and the woman needs to shave her face but these actions take place out of even my view. They are daughter and son by identification and presentation, not sex at birth. I don’t see what difference it makes. You were born smaller and stupid and helpless and over time you grew into your own person. Is that somehow “unnatural” that you’re a man and not a boy? Why is a girl growing up into a man such a threat? Let me tell you something, one person took on our home intruder in this house with a Trench Knife, the invaded fled, and the defender of the home was not cis, nor did he ever bother to tell me about it until the next day. House defended, bad guy not here, back to bad–I like it!