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BlueCross787 #fundie iidb.org

[Replying to the remark that we as a human species are not weak, but robust as shown by our scientific advances]

Scientific advances? Like polluting the environment and inventing cancer!?

pokoloko #fundie iidb.org

Most politicians and religious leaders are members of secret societies. Masonry and the Vatican control the power of the world. These societies and the Vatican practice satanism. They have created international terrorism with the purpose of creating the third World War. They want to make it appear that all conflicts have been caused by conflicts and divisions between world countries and religions to establish a one world government and religion ruled by a leader who will claim to be the prophesied Messiah and to rule by divine authority. They will quote Bible verses to deceive people into thinking this is the Kingdom of God, and they will make all kind of signs and wonders. The UFO phenomenon and New Age Movement have been created for this purpose. This is the kingdom of the beast prophesied in the Bible in which all nations will gather. All people will worship the beast and all true followers of Yeshua will be persecuted. The aliens are fallen angels and hybrids, the gods worshipped by the ancient civilizations. Of course they will present great benefits to the population and they will relase new technologies and promises of peace and prosperity but do not believe them, they are only lying. This will be a fascist government, where all the people will be implanted with mind control chips and the useless eaters put to death. They have planted many lies to keep us away from the truth. God is not of any religion or denomination, because all are controlled and have substituted God because they claim to be the Truth, the Way and the Life. God is in our heart and teaches us individually, we must only understand and do what He commands. The Only Way is Yahshua the Messiah. What the majority believes is always the lie. Where the carcass is (false Christ), the vultures will gather (multitudes). <<<a href="http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/" target="_blank">http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/</a>>> <<<a href="http://www.sherryshriner.com/" target="_blank">http://www.sherryshriner.com/</a>>> <<<a href="http://www.mt.net/~watcher/" target="_blank">http://www.mt.net/~watcher/</a>>>

kerravon #fundie iidb.org

I was an atheist most of my life, since the age of about 12. After ditching the tooth fairy, easter bunny and santa claus, God was next in line. This was my liberation. I was of the opinion that there was no God, and that all rational people should draw the same conclusion. The only thing that could possibly budge me from my position was EVIDENCE.

Well, in September 2004, I got the evidence. Absolute proof in fact. I got it shortly after I wrote message 666 on the 3rd anniversary of 9/11. Message 666 was the culmination of my 37 years of searching for the words to describe my ideology/religion (as an atheist I was STRONGLY supporting freedom and human rights). You can read about message 666 here (I've posted it before):

<a href="http://antisubjugator.blogspot.com/2005/07/sign-of-beast.html" target="_blank">http://antisubjugator.blogspot.com/2005/07/sign-of-beast.html</a>

However, as you have probably guessed already, the proof that I was given was not independently scientifically verifiable. Which means you have no option other than to dismiss it. Or at most, you can only accept it as a theory. So anyway, here is the "theory":

We are living in a computer simulation, and God is the computer programmer. This model does not require supernatural powers. All it requires is for us to have computer technology more advanced than we have at the moment - Artificial Intelligence for starters. In a 15 billion year history, don't you think it is quite improbable that we happened to be born just when computers, nukes and the internet were invented? And also just when the USSR collapsed opening the way for worldwide freedom. And on a millenium year as well. A mere 1 million years either way would have drastically altered the simulation. Hell, even 1000 years either way would have drastically changed things.

I believe the universe is only a few decades old. God didn't sit around twiddling his thumbs for 15 billion years waiting for us to evolve. The whole thing is simulated. The whole universe is just a "virtual reality". We're probably really on a space ship, and this simulation is being run for entertainment purposes (can you think of anything better than a virtual reality to keep yourself entertained?).

And the reason God doesn't want to prove his existence is so that people will become atheists and be totally free. This is what he wants. He doesn't want to tell people how to live their lives, he wants us to make up our own rules. The only way we can be totally free is if we believe there is no God, or at least, that there's no God who's going to sit in judgement. In actual fact, we are all NATURAL ANIMALS. None of us are sinners. We all act in accordance with our genes, reacting to our environment, and using our imperfect logic skills. None of these things are our fault.

Anyway, my point is that there is definitely an intelligent entity in another dimension to us. So if you're a hard-core atheist, think again, because you're actually wrong (even though I can't scientifically prove that to your satisfaction). You need to update your model and allow for the possibility of a God, and convert to agnosticism instead. BTW, a computer simulation gives a logical reason why we can't reproduce life from raw ingredients - the properties are defined in software, which we don't have access to.

Ed #fundie iidb.org

No, knowledge is permanent, nutrition is not, it has to be renewed. The Tree of Life was a super nutritious fruit tree that protected us from disease, mutations, and etc. So after it was metabolized we needed to eat some more in order to live forever.

PCenfuego #fundie iidb.org

I can explain to you really easily why so many scientists don't believe the creationist ideas. It is because of the way their mind works... It [evolution] makes more sense based on what we can see, feel, understand. But, I hate to break it to you, but they are wrong.

Magus55 #fundie iidb.org

... I know for a fact you consider their [creationist] reasoning and claims absurd at best. I'd say because it goes against the only world view you know. Talkorigins isn't all its cracked up to be, and I think atheists use it way too much. Its like their security blanket.

Magus55 #fundie iidb.org

Yes I think there is a verse in the Bible saying Satan has the power to control lightning ( don't know it off the top of my head though). He is the prince of the power of the air.

Magus55 #fundie iidb.org

I just think TO analyzes some things way too deep, and ends up just looking ridiculous. Their arguments are no more convicing then the ones my biology teacher presented.

Magus55 #fundie iidb.org

And even if they did choose which scripture was put in the Bible, the Catholic church was never the heretical temple of blasphemy that it is now... You can whine all you want about me objecting to the RCC. It is a creation of Satan and the Pope is his greatest asset.

Magus55 #fundie #homophobia iidb.org

Maybe nothing wrong with homosexuality to you, but most Atheists don't have a problem with anything. Slaughtering babies, sodomy, fornication, adultery, cussing etc. We wouldn't want to deprive you of your fun now would we?

truelies #fundie iidb.org

The thing that the Liberal(freethinker) is utterly unable to accept is that for true pluralism to work people must be willing to adhere to the will of the majority in the community in which they live to within very broad limits. If unable to do so the right thing is to tear up stakes and move to a more pleasing social climate.

ex_libres #fundie iidb.org

You assume what you see [in the fossil record] is correct. Well, last Saturday I watched this guy by the name of David Angel [sic] (the street magician) literally walk UP the side of a building. I saw it hapen therefore, he must have really done it, right?

Magus55 #fundie iidb.org

It doesn't say how God did it. For all we know, He teleported the animals there. It's irrelevant. If God can create an entire universe by speaking, He can certaintly bring some animals to an ark safe and sound.

Magus55 #fundie iidb.org

At least I have hope that the millions of children in the world dying and starving will eventually be happy, and cease suffering... In the atheistic world, children will die and suffer endlessly as long as the Earth is still here. Thats a heck of a lot more depressing than the children eventually getting to be happy and experience joy and love, instead of hunger and disease.

PCenfuego #fundie iidb.org

Darwin wasn't even a scientist... There are simply too many gaps in the fossil records to prove Darwinian evolution. Many scientists today say that Darwins ideas are hypothetical at best

Magus55 #fundie iidb.org

[To a poster who explains, from personal experience, that surviving lightning is surprisingly common]How do you know Satan didn't try to kill you with lightning bolts, and God was protecting you since it wasn't your time?

Magus55 #fundie iidb.org

[When the actor in Mel Gibson's movie about Jesus got struck by lightning twice in a row]...being hit twice, on the same set, and 2 different times relatively close to each other is beyond astronomical. I know atheists love to dismiss astronomically rare events as mere coincidences, but being struck by lightning while playing the most controversial character, in the most controversial movie ever made, and walking away with barely a scratch both times is beyond coincidence.

Magus55 #fundie iidb.org

If you are gonna call something a fact that can't be proven as such, i'm gonna call you on it. Either prove, 100% undeniably that humans descended from apes, or cut the arrogant 'we know all' crap.

ex_libres #fundie iidb.org

Evolutionists are expert tapdancers, as is obvious here in this forum. Think about all the people who dedicated there careers to proving evolution. Are they so willing to walk away from it? What would it take?

Magus55 #fundie iidb.org

They were doing something unscriptural and God was warning them to get back on track or Satan ( who can control the weather) tried to kill off the main actor so the movie couldn't finish, and God protected him. Either way, its beyond a freaky coincidence.

PCenfuego #fundie iidb.org

I didn't come to start a fight, just to get the minds working, wow. My point is, as time goes by people are fighting harder and harder to try to prove evolution. Theoretically as science continues and knowledge increases, shouldn't it get easier to prove evolution if its true?

Mike(ATL) #fundie iidb.org

In this particular instance God is giving a 'deceiving message' to the prophet which has spoken to the idolater... God didn't lie to anyone here, He's misleading false prophets to show them for what they are.

hope's daughter #fundie iidb.org

Were you trying to be funny? I think it would be better if you got some new material; preferably the type of material everyone can laugh at. God give xterm [the other poster] a better sense of humor. Thanks God.

Consistent Thinker #fundie iidb.org

Should I be hated for being against ritual murder, caring about the safety of children and non-human mammals, for being against slavery... against ripping people off... against child pornography... against religious superstition and the tremendous economic, social, political, and emotional harm that it has caused, AND for being suspicious of those innocent of such actions but who have shown that they will support others of their tribe, expecially their leaders, no matter what?

hope's daughter #fundie iidb.org

... the Democratic party protects it by stone-walling the outlawing of it in an effort to cater to radical feminists they are liars and in no way are they advocates for the protection of children.

Albert Cipriani #fundie iidb.org

If you can accuse me of wanting to force women to carry their babies to term, then I can accuse you women who have abortions of having forced their men to have had sex with them. That’s no less logical. Just more absurd.

Jim Larmore #fundie iidb.org

[Just a few minutes later, after many dissenting scholars are quoted]I have studied a lot over the years on the 'scholarly' interpretations of the ancient scripts. They are so messed up they can't tell heads or tails of much of anything. One scholar will contridict another etc.

Magus55 #fundie iidb.org

Yes, and while the killing of women and children ( or anyone for that matter) is awful, sometimes its required in this world. The sooner the end times come, the sooner God returns the Earth to paradise and all the suffering ends.

Consistent Thinker #fundie iidb.org

Why is it that jews tend to claim to be very moral people, and yet try to excuse the other jews' atrocities? Do you think the 'son of sam' killer should be released from his New York cell because he is jewish?

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