When science say's stars are millions of light years away it makes the Bible sound unbelievable because the bible says stars will fall to earth when Jesus returns to Earth. It's their
Its their agenda to vilify the Bible along with YHWH.
It's scientism vs your faith.
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Gr8Believer
Has he taken some inspiration from 1984?
'What are the stars?' said O'Brien indifferently. 'They are bits of fire a few kilometres away. We could reach them if we wanted to. Or we could blot them out. Do you suppose
it is beyond us to produce a dual system of astronomy? The stars can be near or distant, according as we need them. Do you suppose our mathematicians are unequal to that?
Have you forgotten doublethink?'
Scientism: noun. The strawman constructed by crazy religious folk, woo peddlers, and other various conmen/deluded folks. It states that observable reality is not only a lie but an evil lie trying to ruin people. There is often some half hearted defense of "science" but no meaningful distinction between it and the strawman.
As for the post. Sure. When stars seemed to be tiny little dots in the sky, it's reasonable to assume that during a great celestial cataclysm they could fall. When we got better telescopes and could prove even the nearest one was many times Earth's size it got silly. It's not an active plot, it's that observable reality contradicts ideas that people had thousands of years ago. That's like saying scientists were out to get Norse mythology by disproving the "giant tree" hypothesis or hates a surprising number of belief systems that thought the world rested on a giant turtle.
This is the bible that says brown goats looking at striped sticks when they copulate will produce striped kids?
That bastion of verifiable truths about the world?
Yeah.
Gonna go with the scientific method on... (gestures vaguely at the entire universe) this.
Look, science does not attack tge bible. "Science" does not care. You guys make it a 'my way or the highway' choice. And then choose the book that says to "cleanse" a person of leprosy by dipping a bird in the blood of another bird....
@Malingspann #81620
That I get. I just have trouble understanding what axioms they started with, let alone the syllogisms that led to that. Probably because every reason I can think of for power involves spending it. What power does while just lying there, I don’t know, unless all the archons actually sought was some sort of psychosomatic high. Which is, to put it mildly, a ridiculously petty, ephemeral, and feeble thing to desolate the world for (Who even likes resorting to highs?!), especially if biological and mental immortality aren’t bundled in.
Meteorites… you can see a few stars fall at night, if you have nothing to do but sit outside and watch. Your faith must be pretty weak, if it can be destroyed, by such a simple scientific phenomenon.
Science brought us technology. Your bible gave us dark ages, inquisition, persecution of unbelievers, LGBT, women, witch trials.
I'll stick to science
Well: all you have to do is prove the rest of us on Planet Reality wrong . We demand that you do so.
NASA will welcome your peer reviewed paper to "Science" on the first working FTL propulsion system.
Dr. Buzz Aldrin certainly will, as he's a Space Scientist : And a Conservative Christian.
He has reconciled his faith with proven scientific fact, so what's your excuse, OP: in more ways than one...?!
God or the bible does not require my assistance to be vilified; it does that just fine on its own.
You can have your faith, or your delusion as I call it.
Another “if the Bible contradicts reality, then obviously reality must be part of some grand cosmic conspiracy to discredit the Bible”.
Do these nutjobs even hear themselves talk? I mean, even by their own “logic” it doesn’t make sense: what is more likely, that the primitive humans who wrote the Bible may have misunderstood/mistranslated some of God’s more complex words or metaphors, or that God deliberatly created a cosmos that blatantly contradicts his own autobiography?
Then it would take at least millions of years for them to fall, no? In which case, you can stop putting rapture dates, h8 Beaver!
Confused?
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