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Pedophilic Catholic Priests Don't Exist
And you cannot prove they do.
What people call predatory/ pedophilic Catholic Priests are predatory/ pedophilic gay men.
Pedophilia goes against the Catholic Church; whether they're protected or not, you have to act like a Catholic to be one.
Pedophilia is defiance against Christianity.
These predators/ pedophiles are gay men, and the LGBT is responsible for them; all loss of life and trauma is on the hands of the LGBT.
That's hard facts.
M.
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This by the way is one of the many reasons I decided to get out of the catholic church and stay a non-denominational christian. I mean, from what I can tell, as soon as the church couldn’t simply deny and hide the child molestations anymore they IMMEDIATELY started to push the ‘oh, we are victims too, it’s those damn homosexuals that have undermined this holy institution’ narrative. Oh sure, not everyone did so officially, but the number of clergy men who put that forward is high enough and the holy seat never even uttered a word against it, so I’m pretty sure it’s already the semi-official rationalization they are going with. The church, like many religions and their institutions, has little to no love for people like me and uses us as scapegoats. Combine that with the fact that the more rational and progressive catholic theology represented by french and german theologists is constantly rebuffed and ignored by Rome, and has nearly no influence on it since the Vatican basically see these countries as lost causes anyway, while they push horrendous agendas in the countries in which the catholic church still goes strong and I simply see no reason anymore to stay and support it. And I’m not just bashing the catholics here, I have no faith left in any religious institution anymore. I’m so done with this kind of bullshit.
Okay, so if someone is merely POSING as a priest while they predate on children, you would have no problem with the holy church making their records available to prosecutors? Since ghe y are not REALLY Catholics?
This reminds me of some of the people I used to argue with on Christian News Network. I’ve never seen so many “no true Scotsmans” as on there. The minute a Christian does X, Y, or Z….not a true Christian! And if you tried to call them out on that, that would get you absolutely nowhere fast. (not that I ever got anywhere in any of those arguments anyway)
Sure, paedophilia is against the Catholic canon law (indeed, one of the seven way to get a latae sententiae excommunication is, for a priest, “the absolution of a partner in a sin against the sixth commandment of the Decalogue”) but how many bishops just moved these molesters to other dioceses?
It should serve as a warning to organisations thinking their “missing stairs” should be protected rather than dealt with, along with the several sport federation, scouting troops and others who thought shielding predators was but a little sacrifice to their ultimate mission.
Pedophilic Catholic Priests Don't Exist
It was the Church itself that made them priests. I mean, you might rightfully argue that their failure to act morally makes them unworthy of the priesthood. Fine. But they were still priests of the Catholic Church. Of course, there's also the matter of the Church higher-ups trying to cover for them, so... I guess you'll have to eventually argue that the Catholic Church itself isn't really Catholic? Yeah, good luck with that.
And that these priests have no attraction to adult males of course means nothing to you and you'll just use them to bear false witness against a community you endlessly slander by accusing them to a man of a crime you're at the same time diminishing.
You do know that fear of molestation is why it became common practice to segregate youth interaction by gender (priests with boys, nuns with girls) in the first place, right? That you can shift the moral outrage away from the fallibility of supposed moral authority of the Church and abuse of the blind trust it commands while glossing over the entire topic of access (which incidentally along with control is found overwhelmingly to be the driving factor in how child predators choose victims rather than gender) is a "happy" coincidence I'm sure.
Child molestation - indeed children overall - are little more than social leverage and talking points to the likes of you. A shield to throw in front of you in adult conversations you're not ready to have and an investment in the expansion of your values rather than individuals expected to grow into their own choices. You're more keen on avoiding honest discussion than keeping yourself free from sin... whether that be in the eyes of men you insist cannot judge you or a God you believe obliged to forgive you for using their name to your own selfish ends.
I don't understand the argument here. As I read it, he's not saying that these pedophiles were never priests to begin with. He's saying that because pedophilia is an anathema to the church that it is literally impossible for a priest to fall into it. Maybe impossible for any Catholic, depending on how you interpret his statements.
That's how I interpreted it anyway. Which is strange given that church doctrine is literally based on the idea that all people are sinners and need to be saved.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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