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[WarKlutch] (replying to a statement by the Critical Drinker):
“Men are portrayed as dumb now” has he never watched I Love Lucy? The Three Stooges? Charlie Chaplin?

[cb86258]:
Well is there actually a debate that some directors today seem to actively enjoy or attempt to demean men? The newest Indiana Jones is a good example.

This is obviously happening. I think the debate is really how prevalent is it. Not whether or not it’s happening

[lobisomemfacanha4817]:
Unlike modern movies, these movies you listed weren't trying to make a political statement or trying to subvert gender roles unironically.

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So yeah, the average Drinker fan being so stupid and media illiterate as to unironically say Charlie Chaplin movies don’t have political statements isn’t very surprising, but the part that hurts the most is the “trying to subvert gender roles” one. Those morons have been brainwashed so much since birth by those in power to think gender roles are a “natural” and “healthy” thing they can’t even notice in the end it just hurts everyone, men and themselves included.

Good comedy lampoons power. Men still run most things, which is why they're the target. That's all there is to it. The very guys who like to believe they're in charge also whine the loudest.

“not trying to make a political statement”
Well then Hitler was not a politician…
WHOOPS!

Huh, it’s not every day you find people who get the point even less than the Critical Drinker.

It’s called Self-Deprecating Humour. Arnold Schwarzenegger being upstaged by two CGI Russian meerkats in adverts for a price comparison site. Sylvester Stallone sending up his own action hero image in an advert for Warburton’s Bread: even Robert De Niro parodying his own film gangster roles in an ad for Warburton’s Bagels. We in Britain love those who don’t take themselves too seriously. There are Americans who like these adverts, so there are those ‘Over the Pond’ who fully understand the concept of Irony.

Do you, OPs…?!

Men have always been portrayed as dumb. They’ve also been portrayed as smart, and average.

Decent humor punches up rather than down, and men do stand higher in society than women.

@DarkPhoenix #231147

A lot of people point to it being something of a cultural hangover. Up to the ’60s or so, men were portrayed as Father Knows Best types while women were the silly emotional ones. Then people started subverting the trend with closer-to-earth wise-woman types and bumbling men, and that eventually calcified into the standard.

"“Men are portrayed as dumb now” has he never watched I Love Lucy? The Three Stooges? Charlie Chaplin?”
Did ANYONE think that the 3 Stooges represented all men?
And Chaplin consistently outsmarted people.
What i remember of Lucy was Ricky coming home to fix what Lucy broke… But never a big fan.

"Well is there actually a debate that some directors today seem to actively enjoy or attempt to demean men?”
Ah. Lot of shows are aiming for more natural, believable, relatable characters. Kirk could do things even his department heads couldn’t, O’Neill and SG1 have definite overlapping areas of expertise, but also their moments of ignorance.
It’s not demeaning to be real.

“This is obviously happening. I think the debate is really how prevalent is it. Not whether or not it’s happening”
No, i’d debate the use of ‘demeaning.’

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