RE: Now that TIFs are starting to enter gay male spaces, will things change? (Gay man here)

( Itzpapalotl )
The level of delusion is insane. These women really, truly believe that a gay man will want to be with them?

I have a TIF friend and she is a classic case of ROGD and considers herself a gay man. It makes me squirm, it feels so wrong to appropriate the struggles of another group.

How could a female (a straight one at that) possibly understand what it’s like to be a gay man? I can’t imagine barging into a space that isn’t for me. [...]

The whole thing feels icky.

TIPs don’t realise that they have almost annihilated their prospective dating pool. No gay man is interested in a TIF, no straight woman is. Bisexuals are the only option and IME very few of us are willing to date or even sleep with these people, they’ve unnecessarily destroyed their bodies to look like something they can never be.

( ILovePizzaALot )
Yep. As a bisexual woman, I'm not interested in dating a TIP. That includes nonbinaries.

It isn't because of the rejection of gender roles. It isn't because they dress in clothing meant for the opposite sex. It's because I've never met a TIP who wasn't exhaustingly insufferable. And I don't need that kind of mental stress in my life.

( Itzpapalotl )
Ditto. I’m attracted to the natural female body and the natural male body. Not people who have unnecessarily surgically and chemically destroyed their body in a poor attempt to imitate the opposite sex.

And yes, the insufferable delusion, self-obsession and entitlement. I wouldn’t date anyone who supported gender ideology, let alone someone actively peddling it.

( Artistlee19 )
I think even most people who hook up with TIPs are just being nice and do it to tell themselves and the world that they aren’t bigots. It’s out if wanting to be seen as such a good person and not really desire I think.

( Itzpapalotl )
Agreed. TIPs kinda go against all natural human attraction (sounds bad, I know)

Like, I find both some men and some women sexually attractive - because I like both male and female features/sex characteristics...not artificially spliced together though (shudder). And that’s before we start on the delusional and entitlement required to demand everyone adhere to your fantasy.