At least 4 independent studies (Hooker, Mawson, Garner, and my own surveys) found an odds ratio of 5 or more for autism being more likely in the vaccinated vs. unvaccinated. This means that 80% or more of autism is caused by childhood vaccines. There aren't any studies of fully vaxxed vs. fully unvaxxed showing otherwise that any of us are aware of. Congress tried to get the NIH to do a study on vaxxed vs. unvaxxed, but the bill never made it out of committee.
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This means that 80% or more of autism is caused by childhood vaccines.
OK, even if that is true, which I very much doubt…so what? I’d rather be my autistic self than be dead from an easily preventable disease.
There aren't any studies of fully vaxxed vs. fully unvaxxed
Who the fuck is walking around fully “unvaxxed” though? In the US, and I assume most other countries, they don’t let kids into elementary school if they don’t have this vaccine and/or that.
With all the childhood vaccinations that have happened since, what, sometime during the 1900s?, why isn’t then autism WAY more of a pandemic than Covid-19 ever was?
Here’s a little story that I feel is relevant here. My 68-year-old mother still has a distinctive scar on her arm, thanks to an injection of a vaccine for smallpox. I don’t have that, I never got that vaccine. By the time I was born, in 1977, smallpox was pretty much just not a thing anymore. Cus vaccines just fucking WORK!
I can kinda halfway understand people arguing against the COVID vaccines, but he’s really arguing against vaccines in general, or at least it sounds like it to me.
@Skyknight #175956
VERY significant little exercises in validating the premise.
So many vaccinated in the 1970s: MMR, Whooping Cough, Smallpox etc.
The facts prove you wrong.
“There aren't any studies of fully vaxxed vs. fully unvaxxed showing otherwise that any of us are aware of.”
This is a favorite hammering point of the antivax crowd. What they don’t seem to grasp is that running such a study would be a horrific violation of medical ethics. If vaccines work - and they do! - then voluntarily not vaccinating a statistically significant number of children would be gross child endangerment.
Antivaxers don’t care, because it’s not about the kids. It’s about being right in their own minds. Even if they got their vax v. unvax study, once it didn’t come up in their favor, they’d find some way to dismiss the results.
I don't claim to understand autism, but my cousin's grandson is autistic and he's doing fine with the appropriate support. Good grades, loves playing baseball, a good older brother to his siblings.
None of which would be possible if he were crippled by polio, blinded by measles, or had a heart condition following scarlet fever. Or if he was dead.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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