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Anon #sexist

Humans are the strangest of all animals. Their brain can easily trick itself and people may deny their nature claiming to be higher than animals or even something of a dimension they invented. They can create social orders of various kinds and theorize on those models, test and attempt to improve them and they can retrograde to discredited ones. They can idealize straw men of nature. Some will romanticize and sophisticate to incredible performance, animalistic behaviors beyond what other animals can do. Some will develop social consciousness, some will pervert this into primitive tribalism, others will dream of a better universal future. We can develop means to study and discover nature and our origins, we may deny inconvenient knowledge, we may achieve incredible knowledge while maintaining others in complete ignorance. We can be stuck in the ignorance and falsehoods of ancient people. We're stuck in contradictory paradoxes between the necessities of the industrial revolution and its consequences and management. We're the only animal that's a threat to millions of other humans, to other animals and even to the planet. Our inventions are so dangerous that if we suddenly disappeared the environment would continue to be harmed. We can even alienate ourselves to ourselves or to half of ourselves.

various commenters #wingnut #racist

In reality though all Jews are destroying America

ALL Jews? As in, every single one? Even the young ones that don’t know how to walk yet?

Blackwood #fundie

“I write this to ask, "why would people "choose" to be a christian and live a lifestyle that is deraded ridiculed and made fun of?"”
They’re really not.
I mean, in many countries they face actual persecution, but here, they’re too mainstream. However GOD HAS SAID they’ll be persecuted and ridiculed. And they see it as a validation of their beliefs. So they WANT to be persecuted, it shows they’re suffering for Jesus.
So, if the law says they can’t lead the class in a prayer, THAT THERE’S PREEEESECUTION!
If a christain pharmacist has to sell a painkiller to a woman who might have had an abortion and thinks he shouldn’t, because it MIGHT be connected to an abortion that already happened, and the company says ‘Do your job,’ MOAR PERSACUTION!

various commenters #wingnut #racist

EK Legend pt3 #psycho

@Ceratarges #242005

Of my country’s many sins - our constant disregard for the dignity and written treaties of our Indigenous peoples, the brutal reputation earned in the trenches and rumoured “take no prisoners” mentality, adopting the use of chemical weapons in WWI, preaching human rights but picking sides politically based on what is advantageous, the fact that most of the Geneva conventions were written BASED ON CANADIAN ACTIONS in war we ourselves pushed to criminalize once the long-term effects became plain to see and the morality beyond “our lives vs their lives” could be looked at objectively without the emotional framework of living through combat and constant danger and loss - “orders from above, right or wrong” is not one of the things we’ve come to accept. Ask James McNight, who defied an order to leave civilians to die in the cold and whose case made the inclusion of the treatment of civilians in updates to international law necessary. To know an act is wrong the outcome must be known and the wrongs defined. Further Imre Finta wasn’t absolved of his crimes in the eyes of Canada’s government even though he personally remained a citizen until dying in a nursing home. Precisely because of the difficult to litigate unknowns going forward rather than litigating whether the outcome of their actions could be known or whether they could be held morally culpable if acting under duress such as threat of death for insubordination Canada took the - admittedly weaselly - path of simply stripping individuals prosecuted in Canada for such crimes of their citizenship and deporting them to the countries where the crimes actually occurred to face judgment under their standards instead of our own where reasonable doubt applies. Effectively outsourcing the punishment to get around our own legal standards. He was not acquitted based on following orders, he was acquitted on the premise that it could not be proven beyond reasonable doubt he knew what lay in store for the people he transported or that threat of death for disobedience or aiding in the escape of “enemies of the state” could be discounted. It was precisely because of the outcome of the trial of Imre Finta this new legal procedure came to be, he is not proof we accept such excuses quite the opposite his acquittal is why we changed things to make sure the excuse can’t find new loopholes and those changes are exactly what debunk that accusation. Simply trying him again after new laws and procedures were put in place because we could not stomach the outcome of the trial and applying them retroactively to guarantee the desired result sets a very dangerous precedent.

evil-lution #fundie

“The theory of evolution can't explain this,”
A phrase that always makes me think of airplanes in junk yards, gravity, origin of life, age of the earth, the moon, the universe. Any number of things that are not covered by evolutionary theory. What’s your question?

“because, according to the first law of thermodynamics,”
Ha, called it. Evolution is biology. Why WOULD it explain a matter of physics?

“ matter cant be created or destroyed, as you said. So where did the matter for the big-bang come from?”
That’s the essential nature of the big bang, all that matter IS what expanded.

“Where did the matter for the primitive soup come from?”
From the big bang, ultimately, but much, much later.
And we’re STILL not using evolution.

“How did the first atom evolve?”
Don’t know, but it’s not evolution.

“The first and second laws of thermodynamics disprove evolution.”
Except they do not.They don’t even apply. The laws describe energy in a closed systm, which Earth is not.

“How did DNA evolve?”
Slowly.

“ The answer to your question is found in Genesis, "In the beginning, God created..."”
That’s not the answer. At best it’s a reply. More of a name-drop.

princesstiki #fundie

“My question is this [...] where did gravity come from?”
That’s like asking where weight comes from. It’s not issued or applied, it’s just something that mass does.

“Explain that!”
I fear I’ve already wasted my time.

“I pray for this man's soul, that he would come to know the only Living, True God.”
So, not big on free will, I see. Shoving yuor belief down his throat.

“The God that has the power not only to take his breath away, but to judge him fairly and righteously to hell if he does not repent.”
There’s no way in any manner that Hell is righteous.
Eternal torture for finite sin? That’s fucked.

“The same God who has the power to heal his paralyzed body. Hawking's science cannot do that.”
Well, you can wait for science to figure it out or wait for god to get around to doing any damned thing at all….

scott #fundie

“No creation myth should be taught. Only the true 6 day Creation none myth”
I assume you mean non-myth?
“of the Bible should be taught.”
It’s only unconstitutional, that’s all.

“Anyways all this whining and complaining about what should and shouldn't be taught is complete Nonesense.”
Just trying to follow the law, that’s all.

“I learned more about Christianity in College than I ever did in Public Schools.”
Excellent! That’s how it should have happened.

“Nobody had any problem whatsoever"
Not really a validation of the content unless everyone knew about it. Was ut a Christain college?

“when we had discussions about Creation or Christianity.”
Lots of discussions in college, huh? How much of it was taught as fact, though?

“Quite frankly it doesn't matter if it is taught. The only people getting upset about it are the Die-hard Atheist/ Evolutionist.”
Bit of a false claim, there. Many theists as well as constitutional scholars would complain.

EK Legend pt3 #psycho

So if a staff sergeant orders a corporal to shoot a command sergeant major that’s a lawful order? Because even if the command sergeant major outranks the other two that IS an order coming from the corporal’s immediate CO is it not? Should the corporal consider the order lawful by default and immediately obey? Or two officers of equal rank demanding the other be shot?

Think carefully about those absolutes, would you kindly?

various commenters #wingnut #racist

jews are destroying America

I didn’t know MAGA was composed entirely of jews…

And Sydney Sweeney has GOOD genes and jeans !!

Can someone clarify the Sydney Sweeney obsession for me? Yes, she’s pretty and white and I heard she voted Republican (wasted beauty, but whatever), but I still don’t get why that makes her so popular for MAGA to rally behind…

Also, considering you brought up “short Asians” and “GOOD genes”, I direct you towards a personal favorite former AV model of mine, Anri Okita (Semi-SFW wikipedia link, don’t worry). Japanese, 167cm tall, almost 40 years old, has a child, is very stacked, and is still IMO one of the prettiest and sexiest women to exist, period.
My point being that you don’t need to be white, young, childless, and/or conform to stereotypes to be attractive or have “good genes”.

Anon #sexist

your daughter is about to deal with people like you doing to her what you did to her mother. And that’s leopards eating YOUR face, when you voted for them
to only eat the faces of OTHERS.

various commenters #wingnut #racist

The curse of those who demand simple solutions to even the most complex problems.

James Wilson #fundie #senpai_noticed_us

:Fundies Say the Darndest Things (FSTDT) is a liberal mockery website that is a haven for apostasy,”
Okay, can’t argue that. We tolerate the behavior of pointing at the self-important, god-fearing, hate-spewing assholes without regard to their side of the story (though we do link to it, and to them).

“feminism,”
We’re definitely feminist, but is this a haven for feminism? I wouldn’t know, I’m ciswhite and male, but do any females feel a need to be treated like humans and see FSTDT as a place to go be human?

“heresy,”
Meh. Everything anyone does, including live the life Jesus led, is a heresy to someone.

“homosexual behavior,”
And again, if you’re feeling a need to express or enjoy homosexual behavior do you think of THIS place?

“and the lust of the flesh.”
Okay, finally. I defend the lust of the flesh, here. The worst arguments against it are there, but wwhen i think “I needs me some lusts of the flesh” there are at least 20 sites I’ll go to before this one.

“The site engages in demonic glorification, gloating, arrogance, pride, and otherwise reprehensible behavior.”
Ah. When YOU’RE stupid, we mention it. That’s reprehensible. Not AS reprehensible as electing a felon and a rapist to the office where he can do the most treason, but we might gloat that you get the policies you voted for.

“Unsavory comments allude to desiring carnal relationships,”
Can you point to some examples? Slowly, please? Because a simple ‘fuck you’ has nothing to do with carnal relationships.

“and they have a love affair for Darwinism”
We love the truth. Your mileage may vary.

“and they tolerate Taylor Swift the evil harlot succubus.”
No, we point and laugh at the overreaction to a young woman with a following.

“There is no substance on the site,”
Well, you’re the substance.,

“no research,”
Oh? Try posting that the bible never makes a mistake. O rlie about the contents.

“no biblical values,”
Except the ones you guys avoid.

“and no other redeeming qualities whatsoever.”
However as a great researcher in parapsychology once said, “But the kids love us!”

Ps82 #wingnut #fundie

I have similar ideas about why God confused the languages.

The languages were never confused, there never was a sole human language. Eden and Babel are called mythology. Until you know this, you'll fabulate forever. False premises lead to false arguments and conclusions.

They wanted to always have contact. This was why they planned for the tower to be very tall

So you also really believe that a stone ziggurat, the ruins of which the story was inspired from, could reach and threaten God?

Smokey Mountains

Er, Appalachian?? Do you know that even from space orbit...

I've wondered why God's plan was better than theirs

Well, I too was lost in incredible baseless speculations long ago.

[... speculation about a few settlements and myths, that supposedly must now be said to be advanced technological civilizations ruling all of Earth ...]

Our Founding Fathers thought a United Nation of states was a good idea [...] We can all see how a united central government can be vulnerable to the invasion of socialism

So all of that was just for red scare rehashed? Maybe we're more doomed than I imagined! But it also depends on the poster's age. If you're 9 and you've been brainwashed with Babel and Commies stories... a curious confused mind does need to wander somewhere. Unfortunately, it's not that kind of forum that'll help direct education. Normal theology courses are already much better.

Valerie Solanas #psycho #sexist

Tatsuya Ishida #conspiracy #crackpot #pratt #racist

@TatersForever5481 #242253

Well, Tats doesn’t support any Jews because he believes that there is no such thing as a “good Jew”. Notice how the grandma in this comic is still depicted as the “villain” here (despite the fact that she’s rightfully offended at the man who is literally a Holocaust denier) in the last slide.

EK Legend pt3 #psycho

The Constitution's separation of powers and definition of the presidency are clear that a president is not a dictator or king, fascist grifter.

Andrew torba #fundie #sexist #wingnut #racist

Christian sexual ethic that built Western civilization

When that's the false premise the rest is bullshit too.

taught generations of women that motherhood is oppression

But most feminists still have familes. Maybe not the little "armies of Christ" you desire?

people addicted to pornography will not form strong families

It's not because you have the condition that most people do, even if it might make you assume it.

What They Teach [...]

The straw men that reveal Torba's ideals. Interesting.

That's aside from running a Neo-Nazi propaganda network.

Edit/Adding: It's not because your cabal is unable to abuse society that the people and their freedoms are a cabal against society.

Murray N. Rothbard #conspiracy #crackpot

I was sure that the bullshit of the tobacco industry, that also inspired the bullshit of the oil industry, would resurface once in a while. When you confuse the left's public health concerns with the right's control doctrines for authoritarianism, there's a problem!

Just to share about my own experience, I knew people who died of lung and tongue cancer attributed to smoking. It was forbidden in the cult I was raised in, but I also smoked a few years as a young adult. I never liked the taste and smell of cigarettes and smoked out of nicotine addiction, but admit that the aroma of some cigars and pipe tobacco can be appealing. I stopped smoking twice, because I fell into it again when I had a new gf who used small aromatic cigars and I let myself be tempted: I was soon buying cigarettes again.

The second time I stopped I decided to remember forever how difficult and annoying it was. The first few weeks I was constantly hungry and thirsty, the first few months were very annoying, for several years, suddenly one night I'd feel an urge to smoke. Fortunately that's long over. It takes years for the brain's neuroreceptors to fully recover and until they do it can apparently affect mood.

But as a non-smoker, I also easily smell the awful stuff from far away, like getting in through my open window because of people smoking outside on their balcony. When I visit smokers, my hair and cloth stink. Some smokers who visit smell stronger than others, it varies from mild to awful.

Then where I live it's illegal in public places. I'm really glad, I remember when offices I worked in were full of smoke. If I ever was a smoker again, I'd agree to smoke outside, it'd be my own addiction problem, afterall.

Val Kilmer's recent death was due to complications of tobacco related throat and tongue cancer. As a Christian Scientist he was apparently initially in cancer denial, which delayed treatment.

Edit/Adding: Oh and as Keith said, it doesn't only pollute lungs and people, also the environment. It covers walls, penetrates mechanical and electronic equipment, the thrown out ashes, botches and filters also pollute beaches, yards, sidewalks and streets, end up in the water sources...

Edit/Adding: I've also seen pseudoscientific propaganda pretending that nicotine is not the main addictive substance, likely resurrected due to the vaping industry. Vaping is not harmless but does produce less pollutants and formulas with nicotine will maintain or create addiction, unless someone used a strict gradual reduction regime as a plan to stop. But then, there are patches for that, no need to inhale products of unknown quality (some cheaper products can be very toxic, the aromas also add pollutants, there can be accumulation of oily products in the lungs) and burn your mouth and throat (also increasing chances of cancer)...

The Democratic Kingdom of Sanadia #fundie #wingnut

And this means that you're Allah? Because humans are responsible for patriarchy and its enforcement. You'd not need to deny their rights if Allah was enough. Just like Yahweh could have protected the Jews but could not, when they faced genocide, Allah failed to protect the Muslims who faced genocide. If Allah didn't want women to enjoy food or sex, he could have made them in a way that food and sex are unnecessary and gross. Interestingly, sex suddenly switches from gross to appealing at puberty. There are natural biological reasons for that. If Allah created them, he also created libido and the will to be free.

Declan Finn #homophobia #sexist #ableist #pratt

If you don't know any LGBTQ around you, it's likely that they don't want to let you know, not that they don't exist. Those around me didn't want me to know either when I was in a cult. Even if 50% (dubious) of popular films included a reference to their existence, it has nothing to do with a claim that 50% of the population would be, that would never happen anyway. But it's plausible for more than 50% of the population to know of some LGBTQ in the real world, unless they either have no society or are blind (like I was).

Sarah Hurwitz #racist

there have been huge shifts in America on how people think about Jews and Israel, and I think that is especially true of young people

More about Israel than Jews. Crimes against humanity have consequences.

confusing some of our young people about anti-Semitism

Which is exactly what you're doing when whitewashing a regime involved in crimes against humanity and falsely claiming that criticizing it is "antisemitism". Bullshit is bullshit and people know it. It's the same as Russia whining of "Russophobia".

Expect more spam and conspiracies, with stuff like Project Esther and the massive recent funding of Hasbara, also now embracing AI LLM...

I'll also add a note about the Anti-Defamation League (ADL): it used to be a useful source about bigotry and extremists. It has been repurposed to whitewash Israel, misuse "antisemitism" and it has censored its list of far-right white supremacist hate groups.

Tatsuya Ishida #conspiracy #crackpot #pratt #racist

This doesn't say much about Jews or about anybody, but it says a lot about Ishida.

Benny Johnson #racist

"It's an alien invasion conspiracy by the democrats who want to destroy our civilization! They want aliens to be citizens and republicans to be crushed! Aliens out!" We don't call such "conspiracy theory" for nothing, hateful paranoid crackpot.

R He #wingnut

The ironic self-defeating argument that only the MAGA would swallow. LOL

Pete Hegseth, Lee Zeldin, etc. #wingnut #conspiracy #pratt #fundie

So no place for "environmental religion" but corruption of policy for white supremacist Christian dominionism is fine? Only, the latter is really politics and religion, the former is science and facts, that you're politicizing... and divinizing? For corrupt puppets of the oil industry, any lie is fine, apparently.

Charlie Kirk #conspiracy #racist #sexist

RetroSpriteResources #sexist

Yoko Mada AKA randomyoko2 #fundie

Benny Johnson #racist

80 Million is nearly a quarter of the current US population. Do you really think there are anywhere near that many?

For reference, the estimated number of undocumented immigrants is only about 10 million.

Jtaylor1 #fundie

Cherished #fundie

Benny Johnson #racist

Cherished #fundie

“You sank to a "level of utter simplicity" when you subscribed to atheism.”
That’s hilarious. Just the history of the Big Bang and the next five seconds is much more complicated than the history of ‘Goddidit.’ Many reject the BBT exactly because they say (incorrectly) that Occam’s Razor forces them to choose Goddidit for simplicity.

“It doesn't get more cop out then that.”
Ever read Inherit The Wind? ‘I do not think about things I do not think about.’ is a greater cop-out. And it’s not the atheist who says that.

“I disagree with God, so I will just believe in nothing.”
That’s nihilism, not atheism.

“I am not the wrong one here. You are.”
Feel free to give me ANY reason to think so.

“I feel sorry for you.”
I could give a fuck…

“How does it feel to be sold out to satan?”
If Satan’s gotten anyone on Earth this day, it’s Donald Trump, who’d have sold his soul for one night of sex with one woman. Any woman. All Satan would have had to offer. “You point to her, she’ll be yours.”
And he wouldn’t have had to DO anything, either. Just tell the Orange Mussolini, ‘this woman belongs to you’ and then leave. The rapist would take it from there and think he owed a debt.

Benny Johnson #racist

“Every single thing you hate about your life right now or American culture is caused by mass immigration and criminal immigration.”
Elon Musk is paying Third Worlders to post as angry white Americans so they’ll worry about Third Worlders coming to take their jobs.
Exactly how is this a problem caused by mass immigration?

Jtaylor1 #fundie

“We Should show Christians that their religion shall not be tolerated.”
By not tolerating their religion? To show that that their intolerance is wrong? Good plan…

“They should all be put in extermination camps and they shall die.”
Because that’s what sane atheists do? Blame all our problems on one flavor of religion?

“And then they'll realize they have no soul”
First off, once their dead, their possession of a soul is of little import. It’s not like we can convince them, THEN to change their minds.
And outlawing a religion is the fast track to making it MORE popular. All the rebels come out of the woodwork.

“and the bible is a bunch of crud.”
Then this makes Christainity as a religion into a martyr. Not terribly effective, really. Sure, there will be fewer Christains, but those that remain will be RABID Christains. And when they do rise to power, they’ll be fucking horrid people in power.

Benny Johnson #racist

That has never happened and will never happen Benny.

R He #wingnut

I thought that MAGA was the servile cult of personnality toward a moronic truft fund who bankrupted several casinos and understood that appealing to the basest feelings was a surest way to success than all his previous ventures.

Tatsuya Ishida #conspiracy #crackpot #pratt #racist

Why am I not surprised to see that Tats is more movd by his genocidal fantasies than by sympathies toward Palestinians?

Pete Hegseth, Lee Zeldin, etc. #wingnut #conspiracy #pratt #fundie

Militaries led by people who deny reality when it doesn’t agree with their own biases tend to lose their wars.

And, in addition to cause instability, climate change will cause challenges for operations such as wet bulb temperatures and more frequent flooding or drought.

ChrisLeonard86 #fundie

“evolution. if you believe we evolved, than a child is nothing.”
That’s nihilism and/or psychopathy. Not evolution.

"WE are nothing.”
That’s a severe self-image problem, not what evolution teaches.

“we're just a piece of protoplasm that washed up on the beach millions of years ago.”
You’re confused. Maybe from the POV of the Entire Universe, one individual out of billions on an unimpressive planet out of gazillions isn’t important. But that’s from statistics more than evolution.
From within the gene pool, we evolved so that we would protect other members of our gene pool. That’s our survival trait, all for one and one for all. So you’re just fractally wrong, here.

“thats why I am so opposed to the evolutionary theory”
So, you don’t reject the science because of the science, you think there are connotations to the theory that are unacceptable, THEREFORE you reject one of the best-supported scientific theories of today. And all your connotations are wrong.

This is like not getting a vaccination because you think aborted babies are used to insulate the shots during transit. Not true and not applicable.

Governator #fundie

It's old, but my advice would be to consult a professional as soon as possible, when in a state where you could harm yourself and perhaps others. Your alienation and the existence of things you don't like in the world makes you desperate and want the world to be destroyed? A serious concern that prayer or the death of other people will not solve, because it's in your own head.

2) Perverse sexual sins are far more common among fundies than anyone else. Something about the Christian message that sex is dirty really twists them up inside.