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Zergocel #fundie bibleforums.org

Has anyone seen the commercials for this new movie? It [a remake of the Exorcist] looks very disturbing and I feel like it might harm people who see it. It paints a terrible picture and everyone inside the theater will be immersed in that for 2 hours.

The commercial just came on as I type this.....

Come soon Lord.

StarscreamX-2 #fundie bibleforums.org

Ive found that Logic changes every few decades as new things and ideas are devloped. Logic some times is Illogical. For example...LOL...take Spock from Star Trek who constantlly acted illogical or found things that "should not be" according to Logic. 1000 years ago the thought of Space flight was Illogical.

abidingone #fundie bibleforums.org

The theory of evolution requires billions of years of constant violations of the 2nd Law. Evolution from chaos to organization is like an explosion in a print shop which somehow produces a dictionary or a blender transforming itself into the Starship Enterprise.

peacefulwisdom #fundie bibleforums.org

There are generational curses. Homosexuality is one. These people are born with a genetic disposition for the same-sex lifestyle, just as a drug addict or alcoholic are born with. Demons come in and affect the human genes. When they say they were born that way, they are correct. And once they engage in that act, they open themselves up to that demon becoming active, then from that moment on, they have no choice in which way to be. The desire or pull into living that lifestyle, becomes so strong, that they cannot resist it. And even if they try, the result will be giving in or suicide.

cbalke #fundie bibleforums.org

it also makes me laugh(SERIOUSLY!) when people say,'well, in this day and age'. SURE!!!!!! you believe that God was able to create the universe and everything in it, but you can't believe that He'd be able to cause something to be written down that is timeless? you've trapped yourself in your own weakness of logic! you just got PWN'D n00B!!1!!

MichaelS #fundie bibleforums.org

If evolution takes billion of years, and recent astronomy is dating the expansion of the universe closer to only 10,000 to 20,000 years old based on recent observations from the Hubble Telescope, would this mean that evolution was impossible?

the J Man #fundie bibleforums.org

God is not mocked. We are to reverance and homor our Lord. Making fun of God is outright blaspheme and disrespectful to Him and He doesn't just sit back and laugh with it like I see many christians doing. God is a Holy God and deserves our reverance and honor, if we are reverancing Him and honoring Him, why would we want to watch T.V. shows and moives that make fun of Him?

Whispering Grace #fundie bibleforums.org

I simply can't bring myself to watch anything that mocks or makes fun of our Lord. It just makes me feel sick when I see it.

Actually, I was in a restaurant with my family the other day, and someone in the booth next to us was goofing off with her friend and shouted "JC", and it was all I could do not to jump into her booth and throw down with her.

dljc #fundie bibleforums.org

[On atheism being protected by the First Amendment]

This is just one more attack by s*tan, on a country that was built on the principles of Christianity. Our fore-fathers based our whole constitution on Christian belief. Athiest's today are doing everything they can to tear that down for the simple reason it mentions God. So tell me that athiest's don't believe He exists again. You don't fight an enemy (God) that you don't believe exists. Again I say, all things must come to pass for this world to end. And then you will know the Truth. But it will be too late to ask for salvation then. It's not too late now.

Jerome #fundie bibleforums.org

I read the article, and considering that 59% of all the oil we consume comes from Venezuela and Chavez is threatening to cut us off and open his borders to base terrorism, I agree with Pat on this.

We don't have an extra $200 billion to dislodge another dictator. A carefully placed $1.00 30.06 will do the job just fine.

mattlad22 #fundie bibleforums.org

Well a Christian that accepts evolution isnt exactly a Christian now is he/she...in such case if they beleive that humans evolved from an ape or something then how can they beleive that the word of God is the absolute truth?...what are they saying God was just kidding about telling us how He created us?

DesiderioDomini9 #fundie bibleforums.org

...Darwin said that if evolution were true, there would be an amazing amount of transitional fossils found. We have 0. Every major scientist has admitted this. They just wont let it be taught because they know that to admit evolution is false is to admit there is a creator, and that is something they dont want to face.

Jorge S #fundie bibleforums.org

Evolution is based on analogy and extrapolation of observational data. The more Evolutionists dig the more they bring out information saying: "look, folks, there are so many variables and conditions necessary to enable and sustain life that we can't really figure out how it happened." Worst of all, it was a once-off phenomenon without witnesses to rely on except the One they want to erase from the picture: The Creator Himself.

We should thank them, though, for confirming that our Heavenly Father is, indeed, VERY SMART!!! [...]

Talking about our Heavenly Father, let us give our tireless Evolutionists a hearty piece of advice. The Courts of Heaven are going to be really busy with this Evolution Lawsuit at the Final Judgement. There is a long queue of defendants, as you may expect. Please, be considerate and prepare your defence in advance. The Supreme Judge is known to ask every defendant in a very benevolent tone: "Son, why have you wasted so much energy in denying My Authorship when I openly left so many proofs of My Handwork? As you can see now, I just made you in My Own Image and after My Likeness, and I also made a perfect world for you and your fellow humans. Why did you despise My Word in The Bible!?"

Miss7 #fundie bibleforums.org

[Replying to a conspiracy that President Bush's hand jestures identify him with a secret society of Satan worshippers.]

I believe it is real. A Satanist does not suddenly become a Christian. Then he would not send people to die in Iraq and poison the soldiers with "depleted" Uranium. And why are they promoting the chip (mark of the beast?)? And then we have the secret occult club Bohemian grove that is part of Skulle and Bones. As you saw many of the elite do this sign and they also meet at the grove. Hitler was also a member of this and the Thule society which i read is connected to Illuminati.

Miss7 #fundie bibleforums.org

This is from Alex Jones site. He got in to the grove with a hidden camera and made the documentary dark secrets inside Bohemian grove.


SINCE 1873, THE GLOBAL ELITE HAS HELD SECRET MEETINGS IN THE ANCIENT REDWOOD FOREST OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA. KNOWN MEMBERS OF THE SO-CALLED BOHEMIAN CLUB INCLUDE FORMER PRESIDENTS NIXON, EISENHOWER, REAGAN AND BUSH. THE BUSH FAMILY MAINTAINS A STRONG INVOLVEMENT.

EACH YEAR AT BOHEMIAN GROVE, WORLD LEADERS DON RED, BLACK AND SILVER CLOAKS AND CONDUCT AN OCCULT RITUAL, WHEREIN THEY WORSHIP A GIANT STONE OWL. DURING THE CEREMONY A HUMAN BEING IS SACRIFICED "IN EFFIGY" TO THE OWL GOD IDOL.

NOW, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY, AN OUTSIDER HAS INFILITRATED BOHEMIAN GROVE WITH A VIDEO CAMERA AND CAUGHT THE RITUAL ON TAPE.

FaithSeeker #fundie bibleforums.org

[On light taking longer to get here than predicted by the biblical dates]

I guess last time you were in deep space you measured the speed of light and this is the reason you know for sure that it is constant in all situations!?!

1,079,252,848.80 KM eh? To determine this man did what? Went 1,079,252,848.80 KM away from the light source and started a timer? Obviously not, man has only ever dreamed of travelling such distances. The truth is that men capture lights speed over a very small distance and then multiply it to arrive at the hourly rate. So in reality you cannot be absolutely sure that light can travel that far in an hour, you assume it!!

Wolfdragon #fundie bibleforums.org

As far as aliens, well, they are stored somewhere else. I happen to know someone who worked for a place here in western NY that said they used to have one in "cold storage" in one of the lower levels of their government contract building. The specimen was later transfered to another facility which was not disclosed to even the higher authorities in the facility. This person currently holds the highest civilian security clearance available.

Now, I usually would doubt someone telling me things like this, but this particular person has never led me astray. They are completely trustworthy.

EarlyCall #fundie bibleforums.org

You know, they, they being the world, claim that well, you know, the story of the flood exists in numerous cutlures. Really? What a surprise, since only eight people came off the ark. These eight people repopulated the world. Any chance they might have told their children of the flood? Of course. And their children told the sory? Of course. And on and on over the many eyars and as the people spread out, the story was taken with them. So no surprise to me this story may appear in other cultures and parrellel the story in the Bible.

perpetualmotion7 #fundie bibleforums.org

What is very exciting about radioactive decay is that G-d has been doing things for billions of years now. In my universe a very cataclysmic battle occured between the angels of light and darkness and this battle ended with Satan cast down to earth resulting in darkness being upon the face of the earth. These spirits exist outside of our dimension but we can trace their actions by observing what has happened with our universe through the years.

Prehistoric worlds have existed & our world will one day be recreated as well. Revelation 20 tells us that G-d will, one day, create a new heaven and a new earth. The exciting thing for us to see is that millions of years ago G-d created a totally alien planet on which huge reptiles existed and no modern day man could have lived with them. Then G-d created huge mamals and prehistoric men who eventually departed.

Now He has, once again, created a unique, intelectually inspired, universe in which we can experience His awe anew. BUT He does not stop there Hebrews 11 tells us that we who are spirit led are looking forward to a new home not prepared by human hands. He will do it once again at some time in the future and science itself gives us proof!

the J Man #fundie #senpai_noticed_us bibleforums.org

[Reviewing FSTDT.com]

Don't let it get you mad. It shows that there are devout christians on the net who are making a difference. The devil is mad. If the devil is mad, then we've have made a difference. So far there has been 29 submissions from Bibleforums. So we know the Lord is doing a work at Bibleforums.

EarlyCall #fundie bibleforums.org

[Reviewing FSTDT.com]

Oh I think they are cute. I mean, let's be honest here. Whenever we are debating on here about anything at all, we do it for ourselves alone. Ah, wait a minute... I said debate - not witnessing or any such worthwhile endeavor.

Now, with that in mind, it seems a trivial matter what we do here when we debate a matter, but how less so is there any significance to what they do when they cut and paste something we've said and use that as ammunition to fire off their little quips?

So in summary then, if they consider us anything at all in a negative light, how much more so are they!

Now what I am thinking is it would be good fun to see them find this post, copy it to their site and try to defend their position against my claim. That ought to be very interesting indeed. But not likely they will touch this one. On the other hand, if they read this and consider it a challenge, then they just might, but then wouldn't that be me manipulating them in a fashion! A bit of a quandry this puts them in I should think.

[smilie]

I'm good with that. I suppose I even consider it good sport in a fashion - that is for me anyway.

StarscreamX-2 #fundie bibleforums.org

Can one person observe "evolution"?

I can make assumptions about Nature and how it works, But i cant live long enough to observe "evolution" So....What Darwins Saw was Some animals that were like other animals but adapted to their enviroment....Is that evolution....nah I dont think so...I think thats God being smart enough to make life adaptible. Darwin NEVER saw a Dinosaur turn into a Swallow....nor any other lifefoem change into a new species....

Look how we as a species can adapt to almost any enviroment in just a few generations...Thats not evolution....the American Indians didnt become a new type of human....They just adapted.....Adaptation I beleave in....Evolution is as real as Trolls, Hobbits and Elves....

mikebr #fundie bibleforums.org

The problem that most have with dinosaurs and cavemen is that we are told that they didn't coexist. Theres absolutely no proof of this. Before the flood the Bible says that things lived longer. For instance Methuselah was 969 years old. Reptiles grow continuously until they die. Try to imagine one 1000 years old. It would be pretty stinking big. Yes there were probably species that existed then that do not now. But the same could be said about alot of animals, even humans.

watcher22 #fundie bibleforums.org

The simple fact that there is intelligence on earth now means there had to have been intelligent design.

Even the simplest life forms on the planet have "intelligence". They consume energy in one form or another. They do things to surive, to maintain homeostasis. Why would they do that? How do they know how to do that? Why would they ever do it to begin with? To survive? How do they know what survival is? Why would these organisms even care if they survived? Why would they make an effort to survive?

Even macro evolution in and of itself would be strong evidence of intelligent design. Why would an organism get stronger? How does human skin know that a callus will protect it from abrasion injuries? How would life know to create antibodies to fight disease?

TEITZY #fundie bibleforums.org

In the last 200 years, racial discrimination by Christians has largely stemmed from an acceptance of evolution in the Church which has also been used by Hitler, Stalin and others to justify the superiority of certain 'races' of people (ie. some are more evolved than others) over others. Of course, bearing the brunt of this satanic tirade has been the Jews and dark-skinned peoples such as Afro-Americans and Australian Aborigines (the original European settlers of Australia believed the Aborigines were one of the 'missing links' in the human evolutionary chain).

Darwin's "On the Origin of Species" is subtitled "By means of natural selection or the preservation of favoured races in the struggle for life". The mapping of the human genome has shown (at least on the biological level) that there is no difference between the so called 'races', and so once more we see the reliability of the Biblical account verified and the folly of evolutionary thinking exposed.

Jesusinmyheart #fundie bibleforums.org

This just confirms a suspicion i told my husband about a few days ago, that i felt even the animals were becoming more and more aggressive, and viscious straying from the norm.
And i feel it all started with the fall of man.... i'm sure the animals have witnessed enough of what we have done. Wither it is leanred through what they observed, or wither it is neurological cause of all the pollution, we are to blame.

And i look forward to a new heaven and earth, where the lamb may lay with the lion.

AlexR #fundie bibleforums.org

Something worthy of note though, is that many of the really deep quantum physicists are becoming deists, because they're finding more and more proof that there had to be an intelligence behind the universe.

It all depends on what part of quantum physics you delve into though - much of it's entirely conjectural, as far as I know... but then it goes over my head most of the time too.

PeterJ #fundie bibleforums.org

I belive i could run the US as president, it would be a Interesting Task and a tough role to full.

How old do you have to be president?

As much as i would like to run the UK which is small campare to the US and would be much more easer, i would prefar the US as it would be a harder and more challenging task.

I belive i have knowage and could build up my experience quite quickly to fullfill my role as president. I have met and aquited with a lot of interesting inportant people out there who see my energy for my passion in life.

If starting at the bottom is the only way in to the office or if i became well known if annie s can get that far i belive i could get a far greater distance than him given the chance.

Iam young with a lot of idea's i would have my adviser's so i would never be on my and God ,i am a great speaker and people listen to me and see my Confidence, Charisma & Super Self-Esteem and a hyper person that keep's me going.

My techniques and skill of running the US would be second to none for starter's if i was president, i would place a early date to remove all troops in iraq and have less US interest's of interfaring around the world and i would build the strenght and encomy of the US in to a powerhouse.

Build greater relation's to other country's with the world iam a loveable person with a ability of greater depths's than other's of looking after inportant people with great repore.

I would stop same sex marrage from ever happening in the US and try to prevent tv promoteing it in there programs etc and i would do much more.

Curtis #fundie bibleforums.org

I’m a little surprised that none of you have mentioned “Intelligent Design”. Science has proven that a single cell is irreversible complex, being that it is impossible to have evolved. Both Christian and Non-Christian scientists now agree on this fact. AS a matter of fact one atheist scientist has give a person better odds of rolling dice and coming up with six’s every time fifty thousands times in a roll.

Intelligent Design has changed my faith life forever and I thank God!

reformedfan #fundie bibleforums.org

[On gambling]

World Magazine (a mag like a Christian Newsweek) wrestled with this question once. A Christian somehow won some amount of millions of dollars playing some lottery game in his state. At his press conference he announced that since he was a Christian, he intended to give ten percent to his church. Many churches were delighted with this announcement, seeing it as a real gift & blessing from God & evidence that the dude was being such the wise steward. World Mag said the church should refuse to take it, as "Jesus doesn't build His church on the backs of the poor".

mattlad22 #fundie bibleforums.org

i am 99.5% sure that the moon landing was a world hoax... i beleive men go to the moon now, but back then..no..i dont think so, i think they set that up for power...they were the first and the russians beleived them, so did the rest of the world.


as for Al-Qeada being a hoax... i doubt it.
are they being displayed to much...yes.

am i goin gto go into a long detail as to why i beleive these things?...no.. i dont want to... theres nothing in it, just an opinion.

brother coolbreeze #fundie bibleforums.org

[Regarding the Truth of the "Left Behind" series]

I figured I'd get this kind of question. I saw it and it's the truth. I saw it maybe about 4-5 years ago on television. I don't remember if it was a news clip on national tv or what. I remember that as soon as I heard what he said, I switched stations because I don't like the series. I don't like seeing people making millions on unbiblical scenarios and portraying God the way the movie does.
In fact, Lahaye said it twice!

PeterJ #fundie bibleforums.org

Is al-Qaida and bin laden real or hoax?

Some people on this board think they are made out by the govenments.
Now i realy don't know, and i am not happy about this if this is ture.

I thought they was real but what happen to the 2 towers could of happen by insiders working against the US for a excuse to use to attack iraq and aggantaine without Bush aware of this.
Or insiders working for al-Qaida.

Yea it could be made up in a effort to enforce terror around the world for worldwide mark of the beast and it would be a master plan from the antichrist.

That it is such a master plan that no one saw it comming and there's no one in this world that can stop the antichrist rise to power' to enforce world wide worship with hes mark, before hes fall from when Jesus over throws him.

Just think how the world will react and the media.

Will the US and the allies fight the NWO army ?
They must do as they are a threat and they will lose to them how i don't know.

Yours Peter

BigTlilODD #fundie bibleforums.org

Notice that when London was just bombed, how Americans were showing support and sympathy. Yet when the WTC towers were hit, all the pressed showed was how the people in Europe were saying we deserved it. We're already sending financial aid and support to them, but we're evil. Remember that.

ikester7579 #fundie bibleforums.org

Cloning one thing always leads into cloning something else. And don't think that cloning a human has not been tried, or even there is one living. Why? Think about it. Since it has come up, each government wants to know what their up against if another country decides to clone. Maybe super humans that can fight wars etc... In fact, I hear that even Hitler had his people look into this as well. So between that time and now, it's been done. And as long as we allow it to go on in some sense, it will one day become the norm. And who knows what diseases this may bring that the clone can't fight off for one reason or another. And when the non-clones become infected, it may be more than we bargained for.

NothingButTheBlood4 #fundie bibleforums.org

Do you have to be baptized to go to heaven me and this guy were arguing about it and Ive been reading it like you have to be baptized w/ water Im like huh I was always taught growing up that if you love Jesus and ask him to forgive you of ur sins and that you believe he died for you then ur saved plz help

EarlyCall #fundie bibleforums.org

What you refuse to do is to acknowledge intelligent design when it comes to all of creation. You look around you and see these things and can't help but admit to the intelligence of their design. Ok, maybe you can, but not honestly I don't beleive. Chance just isn't that good, and if you disagree, take your entire life's savings to the nearest casino and put it all down at the roulette wheel and let's see just how much you trust chance to be in your favor then.

<p>What the real problem here is that people refuse to acknowledge God, therefore something else, anything else, we'll think of something, had to have been behind creation. Nevermind that it shows all the markings of great intelligence behind it. We can refuse to admit this and move on with our theories and claims.

<p>I'm afraid my commonsense overrides this nonsense!

J.B. #fundie bibleforums.org

Evidence of evolution is just too scanty. And specifically evidence that humans evolved from any other form. Yes there have been many various forms of bipedal creatures that resemble humans but not one shred of hard evidence that there was ever a transition from one form to another except for manufactured evidence by people who were desperately trying to find substantiation to a pre existing theory. Case in point is Lucy, manufactured from a couple fragments that were not even found on the same site but actually miles apart.
Intersting to note is that anthripological evidence of the present species of humans cannot be found that is much older than what Biblical origens would dictate. Now I realize this is arguable at some level and I am just a casual scholar of such things, but as far as I know Kenniwick man is the oldest know human found in our country and if I remember right he was dated back some 6000 years.

moonglow #fundie bibleforums.org

As far as saying our faith affects so much in everyone's life style...I don't know about your country except what you have said, but here, our country WAS founded on the Christian faith so it is deeply ingrained in everything....and anyone living here should just expect that...though I have to say that our faith isn't nearly affecting things like it did even a 100 years ago. Our influence is schools is almost nile now since prayer have been removed, the Ten Commandments removed...a kid can get into trouble for saying God or Jesus outloud....but wiccan and other reglion ARE catered too now...

moonglow #fundie bibleforums.org

I think its important for Christians to be aware of these myths [Mithraism and the early mystery religions] so they aren't taken off guard when its presented to them....so it doesn't shake their faith. One of the things athesit do is laugh at us when we aren't aware of these things saying, how do you know YOUR reglion is the right one if you haven't investagated these others? Part of that is to lurer you to learn about other reglions (and they hope you decide one of them is better then your own). But they try to claim these other reglions are proven just as much as ours....like for instance Budda was a real man and did live...though as far as some of the so called mircle he did, that is much harder to prove. With Jesus and His mircle there were many witnesses and man of the places and people in the bible are proven historically outside of the bible.

knutove #fundie bibleforums.org

Anyway I think the Bible is very very old, perhaps as old as 120 million years. Maybe people lived much longer in ancient times and could travel along the planets. Jfr. Ezekiel's describsion of space crafts.

mmddll #fundie bibleforums.org

My 3 names (Malcolm Douglas Lambert) add up to 219. The planet Venus makes one complete rotation in 243 days and the planet is retrograde, which means that it's rotation is opposite in comparison to earth, and relatively speaking it is upside down (because the sun rises in the west instead of the east, in relative orientation to our earth. So hypothetically speaking, if you were to stand at the equator of Venus and orient yourself so that south becomes north, the sun would rise in the east and Earth would be upside down. This technically makes Venus an "upside down star" for all intents and purposes)

<p>I have been studying a thing called "Publius Enigma" which involves the band Pink Floyd. They came out with the album called "The Division Bell" in 1994 and an 8 month tour which began in March.

<p>The tour actually began, I discovered, on my birthday which is March 16, at Norton Airforce Base in San Bernardino California for the very first rehearsal of the tour. On October 20, 1994 Pink Floyd's management recorded a video for the tour at Earl's Court, London, England, which they called P*U*L*S*E (which was also made into a live album). This was a total of 219 days, which is also the number that my 3 names add up to.

DrRoi #fundie bibleforums.org

Hi Soupy, My above posts have covered much of what I can say. My Doctoral theses was snatched up and classified so it is difficult for me to enter a fray in comparison with the prevalent astronomical, and physical journals, as they are not privy to the science that goes on in the "black" world. My theories combine quantum, and relativity into a single theory. It is called the theory of Triangularity. All of creation is manifested in a triangulated symmetrical 9 dimensional matrix. The system includes all of the large, Universal level and small subatomic level manifestations of matter and energy, time, and space, Gravity and, fundamental forces of the universe. Each is interconnected through a single source. All things are triangulated in their manifestation, duel in their nature, and one in purpose. Each triangle connects to every other triangle in a 9-D formation. This explains the Unified field theory, and the theory of everything. One problem academia has with finding the theory of everything is that they fail to take into account everything. By leaving the possibility of a Creator out of the picture they are missing half of the universal manifestations, which brings it all together. Once the duality of the physical/Spiritual is understood then the electron entanglement, spooky action, temporal relativity, and the possibility of eternity/infinity come into play thus forming a complete picture of all physical, spiritual, and multiversal /multitemporal manifestations become a singularity allowing for all the phenomena that we observe from our 3 ½ dimensional perspective. I hope this helps because I can't go much farther that I have.

DrRoi #fundie bibleforums.org

Some aspects of relativity seem to bear out, but relativity is not a fact. Black holes are not generally accepted as a fact. Recent observations bring the existence of black holes into question. The things you see on the Discovery channel are quite obsolete, as well as the theories put forth by academia. I wish I could tell you more but I don’t want to go to jail.

Tamararc #fundie bibleforums.org

I also understand that the man who 'discovered' carbon dating, the crux of evolutionism, stated that the regular decay of the carbon atom was only 'reliable' up to about 10,000 years, and even that was iffy. So where does that put the age of the universe?

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