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Once again, there is no such thing as a Palestinian.

Arab countries creating a political spectacle by refusing to accept their own citizens back 60 years ago did not magically create an ethnic people.

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It comes from Philistia and the Philistine people who lived there, modern Arabs pronounce it the same way. And it surprised me, the name is even more ancient than the Romans. So… plenty of Palestinians since Ramses.
https://decolonizepalestine.com/myth/the-name-palestine-was-a-roman-invention/

Dooserhaddy: “Once again, there is no such thing as an American. European countries creating a political spectacle by refusing to accept their own citizens back 160 years ago did not magically create an ethnic people.”

Even with that situation, I can see those renounced people deciding they’d need to make themselves a distinct entity if their source nations cared so little about them. The occupied lands were all they had to work with, so they’d definitely deserve consideration.

This argument, in short, does the opposite of vilifying the Palestinians for me.

I’m pretty sure that that’s not how the situation was in the pre-Israel Lavant. And even if the Palestinensian identity did not exist before: Yes, a region very, VERY much can develop (into) a national identity very, VERY quickly, ESPECIALLy in the circumstance of occupation.

Even if there isn't an ethnic Palestinian, the state of Palestine has citizens. Who don't deserve to be slaughtered.

And it's far less "refusing to accept their citizens back" vs "refusing to accept a bunch of strangers because other countries decided to make a new country in theirs."

It's kind of a complicated situation.

All countries and borders are made up.

Once again, outsiders try to label and/or control the populations of other countries.

There is no such thing as an eternal ethnic identity. They form, they spread, and sometimes they may die out.
Not to mention that ‘ethnic identity’ is not as simple a term as it may seem. It may refer to a number of different things, from tribal affiliation to modern national identity (which basically only came into being around 200 years ago).

As Bastethotep said, an ethnic identity can develop quickly, and become predominant in place of another identity that preceded it (or previous identities in the plural).
‘Palestinian’ as a distinct ethnic identity for Arabs from that region is indeed fairly new, and has risen to prominence well within living memory. That doesn’t make it fake; it is very real for the people who claim that identity, thus making it a social reality, like any other identity (even much older ones).

And just because something is socially constructed, that doesn’t make it not real. Ethnic affiliation is real; it creates a meaningful reality that affects the world. So is religious affiliation, and, really, *every* identity that exists.
And each of those identities started somewhere, with a small group or even a single person, and then it spread. It didn’t just spring into being simultaneously among a million people who all got the same idea.

Dehumanising others is a step towards genocide.

Yes, you should admit that Arabs lived in Mandatory Palestine before the Balfour Declaration.

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