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Fay Voshell #fundie

Blood libel, lies against women and their rights for your women enslavement agenda. You're misconstruing embryos as infants and misconstruing medicine as ritual sacrifice. At the same time, you're exposing your own ignorance, hypocrisy and lack of divine support. You're also projecting your own idiocy on others.

If it wasn't for women subjugation and abuse, you'd promote sex education and access to contraceptives, instead of demonization and misogynism, hypocrite "faith leader". Education is well known to reduce sex abuse, unwanted pregnancies and the need for abortion. Legal abortion allows it to be safe when it's needed. Because it allows girls and women to consult, if there are alternatives, those are also considered.

Do you have a problem with girls being able to consult a professional to speak about their personal problems? If so, what does that suggest about you?

Dennis Prager #fundie

So, please say ‘Merry Christmas’ and ‘Christmas party’ and ‘Christmas vacation.’ If you don’t, you’re not ‘inclusive.’ You’re hurtful.

I have no problem with saying Merry Chrismas, or Happy Hanukah to you, or happy holidays to all. It's the latter that is inclusive, it's good wishes for you and everybody. Maybe it's Christmas, maybe it's Hanukah, Nowruz, maybe it's another traditional light festival or just new year. Maybe it's just vacations. Whatever you prefer. No state religion imposed slogan.

On a side note, Prager is notorious for the promotion of corruption.

A personal note this time, I was raised in a cult where those festivities are forbidden, so is wishing Merry Christmas. Ironically, it's that type of fanatic ultrafundamentalism that Prager, Jerry, Meyer promote, even if it's not the exact same cult.

Jake Macaulay #fundie

Now the church and the state are separate entities

Just like back then when its founding fathers designed it that way.

For example, Hillary Clinton has no authority to administer the Sacraments; and a pastor has no authority to raise a federal army and declare war.

Because it would be unacceptable. Another important principle is the separation of powers. This also means that the president is not an emperor, also intended that way by the founders. The lessons were learned from Europe's problems and European countries too were progressing away from savagery, total corruption and heretic divinized authorities.

there is absolutely nothing wrong with a State official acknowledging the authority and the Word of God in the civil affairs of men

In their personal life? Right. For state worship? Moses would break the tablets if he saw your fake god.

No State action or law is valid unless it conforms to God’s law and His Will

Nonsense. Noone knows what those would be anyway. Crackpots like you claiming to know is not different. That's why there were older gods and religions than yours, that there are many religions and that your own religion is rife with sectarianism. It's much safer for your redemption to pray in private, hoping to be forgiven for your sins, than to be complicit in forcing your misconceptions, sins and hypocrisy on everybody, or to justify your crimes when speaking for God.

“The Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God”

Where do you see that in the founding father's constitution? How would anyone know this and be sure to get it right anyway? For instance, creationists reject actual laws and facts of nature discovered by science in favor of ancient ignorant human mythology. Patriarchs trying to enforce their ideological views against nature falsely pretend that what exists in nature that they want to suppress violates nature. They're obviously ignorant of nature, or against it.

Therefore, prayer, Bible reading, and biblical influence in civil government are entirely American and perfectly legal. As a matter of fact, our Founders encouraged it!

Encouraged that you be able to practice your faith in church and at home? Yes. To impose it via the government? You're lying and it's actually very clear that they wanted to make sure that government could not hire on the basis of religion.

Why should we trust a liar who speaks for not only God but for the founding fathers and promotes pseudohistory? Could it be that because you cannot be trusted and are wrong, is the reason that you'd like to be able to dictate? Because people see your deception and will not blindly accept your rule and false justifications. Who's the father of lies, hypocrite?

Chris Mills #fundie

So since you didn't hear Jesus, are you dead yet?

If you mean murdering other people because they won't accept your rule just because you claim that you're God, it says a lot about your psychopathy and psychosis, you appear to need psychiatric help. Consult, before enacting your terrorist fantasies.

Dave Daubenmire #fundie

Evil is running rampant in America. While the church is content playing small ball (praying simply for individual needs) and sacrificing to get a runner in scoring position (elections),

Church and religion doing its role? What does it have anything to do with "America"? You don't worship the universal god?

our opponents are swinging for the fences. We “pray” to end abortion (bunt) while our opponents swing for the fences (partial birth abortion). We fight for traditional marriage (bunt) while our opponents go for sexless bathrooms. (home run swing).

So your "opponents" are women and human rights and you're throwing slippery slope conspiracy theory lies about them? In fact, it's when abortion is illegal that you'll find plenty of infanticide and unregulated, unsafe abortions at any pregnancy stage. What, you claim that you can't get a "traditional marriage" because other people also have the right to get married? That's bullshit too. So you're not concerned about you and your marriages and your sins, minding your own business, it's about suppressing others and their rights. Sexless bathrooms? You'd better quote Jesus about how toilets are supposed to be designed.

Jesus told us “All power is given unto me both in Heaven and on earth.” We have the Greatest Coach in the Universe with the greatest team ever assembled. But we want to play small ball. We want to compromise (bunt) our way to victory.

That's not the quote I asked for and it's unsurprising, you don't have any. Your victory? So it's not about Jesus and treasures in heaven? You have a special personal agenda that you're justifying with random quote mining out of context. The quote is not even about your own power. Then what about all the actual quotes in their context telling you that as a human you don't have the right to judge others?

We won’t bring out the heavy hitters. We don’t swing for the fences. In fact, we don’t even want to bat—we want Jesus to miraculously hit the ball out of the park without us ever picking up a bat.

If you have faith that should be enough, yes. If you pick up a bat, it violates what Jesus taught you anyway, hypocrite.

What if our team followed our Coach’s orders?

Then you'd love and not judge. You'd not try to take over "America" using deceptive lies as a reason, you'd be seeking treasures in heaven.

What if we re-criminalized abortion and sodomy?

"Sodomy"? So you also twist scripture, misrepresent the Sodom story to attack a scapegoat of your choice, because of your bigotry? As mentioned above, criminalizing abortion comes with its problems. Since you seem to be using religious rhetoric to justify it, it's also a violation of the constitutional separation of church and state.

What if we kicked the Devil out of our public schools?

How could you do that, when the devil is a mythological personification of evil? Or if you really believe that he exists, a spiritual being? Oh, prayer, asking for forgiveness for your sins. What does that have to do with schools? So you have something against education.

What if God’s people demanded HIS return to HIS rightful position as the head of this government?

That's not Christianity, it's theocracy, state worship, Babylon. And it's the persecution of true Christians who aren't your type of Inquisitional heretic. You're supposed to wait, like his disciples have since 2000 years. And supposed to love and help the poor. To pray for your sins. To hope for a right in heaven. You're risking it, apparently. You're not "God's people", obviously. "His rightful position" is heaven, he'd not support a mortal human dictator. Well, he'd tell you to pay your taxes.

What if God’s team played with as much commitment as the Devil’s team?

So you're saying that you fell and will do evil. So you better get back to praying, about that sinful behavior.

God’s kids are settling for the crumbs off of the Devil’s table.

So give to the poor.

Small ball isn’t working. We need Mickey Mantle. Instead we get Mickey Mouse.

What? I thought you wanted Jesus?

@Kanna #1949795
Well said, except that this doesn't emprison girls and women in kitchens.

Pastor David Whitney #fundie

The mini facist narcissist church-dictator who demonizes society and education, to isolate and exploit his flock... Hypocritically adding to scripture, a sin punishable by death according to the Bible, to twist an old myth about being welcoming to strangers, against the LGBTQ+, to suppress those who are naturally different. And with circular fallacious reasoning, use that again to demonize education. Because the educated wouldn't accept to be this bullshitter's slaves.

Bob G #fundie

So... who are you and what kind of narcissist are you, to pretend that you own the country and that it should be subjected to your personal Inquisition? What is that "attacking your children" rhetoric, if not a conspiracy theory for frivolous panic? What is it that's actually a threat to your children and schools right now, like gun proliferation? What did you do to address that yet, hypocrite? Why do you fight against general wellbeing, including that of children, by denying them healthcare, something they have in better societies? Why do you scapegoat those who try to offer that, while not mentioning any actual notable threat? Bullshitting is why.

I had to look at the link to notice that it was a transphobic thread. So this seems to be about the grooming and amputating children blood libel against human rights, the promotion of hate speech against tolerance and those who are different. It sounds like this Bob could be a threat to his own children if one of them turned out to not fit an enforced stereotype. Hypocrite. War accelerationist troll.

RCQ #fundie

We all know homosexual activists are animated by demonic spirits bent on utter destruction

That's not knowledge, it's a malicious lie, for the demonization of people you hate. So also unchristian, because you're supposed to love, and not judge according to Jesus. Or when you call for his help at the edge of the afterlife he'll deny knowing you (Matthew 7:1-5, Romans 8:34, Matthew 7:22-23). You're also adding to scripture, because you couldn't find exact quotes supporting your nonsense. That's punishable too (Deuteronomy 4:2, Deuteronomy 12:32, Revelation 22:18-19). Why does an unbeliever like me know more about your faith than you do?

So let's then treat the other false premise in the context of this false premise:

This is an all-out war. Maybe not a war we wanted, but the other side declared war a long time ago

So it's your personal war against freedom, demonizing society and using religious rhetoric to justify your oppression.

this war is against the spirit world

If it was, you'd not care about the LGBTQ+. You'd focus on your imaginary non-physical demons and personal protection magic rituals. You'd not spam the web with hate speech.

But the outcome is already known. All we need do is put on all the armor of God and trust in Him for the battle. About time we start doing so.

So just visualize your imaginary armor on and shut up, bigot? Instead of tainting the name of your religion, making it impure and unattractive, showing evidence that it's heretic, unholy, unworthy, hateful, dirty? Why would your god need you as his personal soldier if he's not powerless? Why would he chose someone who violates the spirit of his tradition if he existed? It all points out that the problem is with you.

If you feel oppressed by the existence of people you don't understand, you may need to consult, about those harmful obsessions, that could even potentially cause you to harm innocents. When your "faith" is indistinguishable from mental disease, it says something.

Also, I'm not gay, so your "homosexual activists" are a scapegoat, meaning the decent society not interested in your Inquisition.

Rev. Joel Webbon and Oklahoma State Senator Rev. Dusty Deevers #fundie #sexist #psycho

@Sasha #210326

And how do you prove it? Ordeal of the bitter water, ordeal by lightning? :)

Bryan Fischer #fundie

It would first have to be "Islamized", which it never has been. So your panic and crimes against humanity advocacy are based on false premises and hate speech, other than violating the US constitution. And strangely, considering the bullshit I've seen from you, if you had your way with a theocracy, the US would be Iran. Hypocrite.

Bryan Fischer #fundie

So that's the typical panic bullshit, the disinformation that tolerance means oppression, that freedom means totalitarianism. And evidence that Fischer advocates for the oppression of minorities. If letting people live makes you suffer, consult a psychologist, against those unhealthy obsessions, the self-torment.

Thisoldspouse #fundie

Deny hate and evil, deny the evil hate god. Embrace the love and wisdom god if it's your thing.

But what about those who say "I hate the sin not the person", even if it has the same result? You may be more honest in your evil ways.

I'll link another comment of mine that's very relevant here, because it's slightly long: https://fstdt.com/_YD6#210305

Jim Grunseth #fundie

What objection do you have against the existence of the God of the Bible and His Son, The Lord Jesus?

The lack of evidence for their existence is enough to come to the rightful conclusion that they likely don't exist. The understanding of human traditions is enough to come to the correct conclusion that it's human fantasy and tradition. The traditions with other deities including older ones is further evidence of this. The fact that ancient mythology was extremely ignorant about the world is further evidence that ancient humans had no access to divine knowledge.

This also means that all your arguments to find false motives against non-believers are deceptive. It also means that when you promote bigotry against a minority in the name of your false authorities, it's obvious that it's your own bigotry. Especially when you can't find actual quotes by your supposed divine source to support your arguments. But considering the above, even if you did have the citations in their proper context, they would still only be evidence of ancient savagery. When you "speak for God", it suggests elitism, superiority/god complex. Or psychosis, hearing voices.

The "how would a god in my bigotted human image feel if I did this" is the conditioning of guilt and shaming. When used against others, it's frivolous bigotry justification, appealing to an imaginary anthropomorphic deity. Hence the "created in God's image" apologetic rationalization to deny that humans created their gods in their image. The same reason you must twist yours for your bigotry.

James Bell #homophobia

So that's your bigoted dehumanization narrative, claiming that they're not normal people. Also a panic conspiracy theory, like if they're a sort of cabal, rather than normal human diversity, even among you, even if you deny that fact to demonize them and attempt to oppress them.

About the comment contrasting it with Christianity, at least religion can be a choice, making it a false equivalence. It's homophobes and fundamentalists who claim that being gay is a "lifestyle choice", "intent to sin", etc. And of course, it's also homophobes who want to catch them all into their scapegoat straw man. It suggests mental fixations. Like if instead of living their life, everyone they meet is a source of self-torment where they're wondering if they may be gay...

Rev. Joel Webbon and Oklahoma State Senator Rev. Dusty Deevers #fundie #sexist #psycho

The fact that you're bearing false witness against victims, by pretending that they are not victims and promoting their murder, says much more about you than about those women, psycho. Those "laws", like in Deuteronomy, are obviously not of "divine" origin, they have influence from older human law codes. See for instance, the Code of Hammurabi. Considering how ethics have evolved in some societies, these are also acknowledged to be savagery today. Lastly, by attempting to make your "Biblical law" state law, you're violating the constitional requirement of the separation of church and state. If your "Biblical law" is to frivolously murder women that you're not able to abuse and enslave with impunity, it suggests that you're simply evil.

Laurie Higgins #fundie

Fascist demonization of education with libel conspiracy theories. Because education empowers against abusers. Then as Canadiest said, disinformation to distract from actual concerns and accuse irrelevant people of the same, presenting a false balance.

Paul Hair #fundie

Jake MacAulay #wingnut #transphobia

Dr. Sonny Hernandez #fundie

People in the armed forces shouldn't obey a dominionist dictator, their oath is to the constitution. They don't "appeal to the constitution for their faith", it's a non-faith responsibility. An embryo is not a child and a woman's body is none of your business. You don't even have a scriptural basis to justify your claims. Even if you did, it would still be irrelevant. You have no power to enslave them and don't deserve any. Demonization and appeal to false authorities like ancient human texts won't help. Learn to respect people and their rights and perhaps they'll reconsider if your sermons are worth listening to...

Don Boys #fundie #homophobia

You're misrepresenting an ancient myth as if it had anything to do with homosexuality, when it obviously did not. You're a heretic, adding to scripture, soiling your god's name in vain and illicitly judging. Hypocritically justifying your own frivolous hate speech, with religious rhetoric and threats.

Linda Harvey #racist

Neshama #fundie

Humans with their advanced brain make a huge difference. It's not "Evolutionists" or "Darwinists", it's science. Biology includes the understanding of punctuated equilibrium where at some times and places some species may evolve more rapidly and others appear to stall. The human can invent what is needed to survive in environments that would have naturally selected him out. Most species that existed are extinct.

Your denial of the overwhemling evidence shows ignorance, but is also probably evidence of deception to manipulate.

Linux98 #fundie

"If <false premise>, then <false conclusion>, if so, <disposable 2nd level false-premise-dependent argument>".

This is also a circular argument. It also appeals to false authorities, like ancient humain claims.

Human brains and testimony are notoriously unreliable. This is where the scientific method makes a difference, it takes human fallacies into account with techniques. It also derives conclusions from evidence, instead of imposing a conclusion and trying to find justifications with cherry picking and confirmation bias.

Sonny Hernandez #fundie

Call to corruption and possibly treason. If your oath is to the constitution, but you're actually working for another group or person in the capacity of your post, you're violating the purpose of your post and can be considered an infiltrator or at least incompetent, not trustable (i.e. conflict of interest, non-neutral, also a requiement for the necessary separation of powers). Then considering how nebulous "Christian" is (dead-man Jesus-followers, or Christian Nationalist Nazis? Allegiance to a particular cult leader?), it could mean anything. If you're unqualified, don't join. Your religion is not supposed to make a difference and it's illegal to hire based on religion.

JRS #fundie

You're confusing basic chemistry with complex biology involving multicellular organisms. Descent with modification is not random atom shuffling. Natural selection happens to organisms and groups evolve. This kind of utmost confusion and ignorance is why creationists cannot post in prestigious peer reviewed biology journals. They don't even know that they don't know: they're ignorant of all the strong overwhelming evidence of evolution. They put up a straw man of science where it's reduced to their own machinations and ignorance by projection. This is called deception and it steals their ability to reason. Indoctrination can lead to conditioned retardation.

Why must fundies think all science is related to evolution?

Alienate to make them think they're the center of the world, the best know-it-all elite with secret knowledge, that society is totally corrupt and to be rejected and avoided. Make them also reject education. A free slave to exploit in tax-free businesses. You might even be able to steal their family heritage. Or to use them as cannon fodder on the frontline in your imperialist war. Or terrorists on that special cosmic mission.

WPWW #racist

Poe's Law, when it's difficult to determine if it's parody or serious. If serious, the irony is great, as the poster obviously exposes their own stupidity. Meaning that whatever they say about anyone else is hypocritical and void.

But unfortunately, stupid hate speech can harm society. The normalization of lies, hate and stupidity is used by dictators and wannabe-dictators to divide and weaken their enemy, the people. Fascists hate education and impose indoctrination for the same reason, an educated people is empowered against abuse. The "woke" is demonized because it's the part of society that will not be trampled on.

Dr Reality #fundie #homophobia

If your "Allmighty God" really wanted happy men and women, he'd not have arranged for all humanity to suffer and to be sexual orientation diverse by tricking Adam and Eve to send everyone to hell. Or it'd just be a demiurge, not deserving any respect. But he simply seems to be among the many deities created by humans. Meaning that he doesn't exist, neither does hell.

But it also says a lot about you, who's using religious rhetoric and scripture misrepresentation to justify your own bigotry and hate speech. Cite a verse attributed to Jesus that echoes it. You can't because you've made it up.

If you're really a Christian, you're also a hypocritical heretic, because he told you not to judge. If you have faith, just let God decide. Maybe the problem is that again, he's just absent. And you're a stupid bigot, not his creation.

Considering how incoherent this would be even for a Christian, Poe's Law came to mind. Then again, some humans are really crazy. Difficult to distinguish between the crazy and the parody of the crazy.

somalibyethnicityonly #racist

TheTruthNoOneWan ts #racist

Gaz #fundie

Assuming it was true, which is questionable, it would be a form of desecration. But also confusing physical attraction and perhaps pity, with real love. There's obviously no deep relationship involved. In fact, there's no mutual relationship involved, at all. Sex in this case could be considered masturbatory, even. About God's eyes? It's your own remorse and mental illness. Consult a professional, if you need to.

denita d #racist

joyoflife11 #fundie

"America means the oppression of the LGBTQ+" lie to promote savagery.

So, what did they do to you? And where is that in the constitution of the US? What about those laws that'll rightfully result in your arrest if you do enact such violent crimes? "Real men" don't fear "sissies" anyway. If you feel that your masculinity is threatened because of the existence of other people, you may need to consult a psychologist.

Marksman11 #fundie

Not only the big bang but also burning stars. But those conclusions are derived from strong physical evidence. Your intention appears to pretend that they're nonsense, to justify more outlandish ancient misconceptions of the world. Miraculous creation by imaginary sky beings, for instance. Where your ancient authors "there"? What evidence do you have of that? A claim that they made in a book? Also, "chemicals" are always non-living. Biology is more than just "chemicals", even if it's not magic.

It's possible that this was a theistic evolutionist argument, because it only touches the big bang and abiogenesis, apparently. But evolution is often confused with those by creationists as well.

There sure are gaps of knowledge in science, it does not make science non-science. Gods of the gaps are however not only inserted where scientific knowledge is limited, but anywhere a person's own ignorance allows. What "ignited" the big bang is much more mysterious than how it happened and how elements and planets formed, which is much better understood. How life evolved is much more understood than how abiogenesis occurred too. There's progress being done to understand abiogenesis, but it's far from solved.

Does it make science non-science? That argument is basically, if science doesn't know everything it's not science, which is ridiculous. Or the argument of "theistic science": forbidden to explore where modern human interpretation of old human mythology dictated, taboo, which will not satisfy the inquisitive. A version of this claims that science is only useful for technology and should not be used to investigate the past, a form of denial that it can use reliable means and strong inference to do so. All of these amount to censorship to dictate mythology instead.

Hypotheses are also part of science. Its working scientific theories rest on many working hypotheses and a lot of evidence. And at least the scientific method attempts to deal with human fallacies, to hopefully distinguish the real from the scientist's fantasies. It's universal too, not one of many conflicting sects claiming to have the ultimate truth. Anybody qualified can participate to improve it.

Various excellent comments above, a joy to read.

Kimare #fundie

You're confusing your myths together, you're also misrepresenting your myths. Then they're only myths anyway, meaning that you're justifying your own frivolous bigotry and death threats with religious rhetoric. Hateful moron. What would Jesus do with you, hypocrite? Deuteronomy 4:2, Deuteronomy 12:32, Revelation 22:18-19, Matthew 7:1-5, Matthew 7:22-23...

Paul Bury #fundie #dunning-kruger #crackpot

<@KeithInc.> #210008

Or at least it'd be very different, I can imagine a few funny scenarios:
- Mutants fighting with exotic personal abilities
- Scanners (1981) exploding eachother's heads
- The Bavmorda/Raziel fight in Willow (1988)
...

Jesus Loves You #fundie

gassawaybaptistveteran34 #fundie

Muahahahaha!11111

And the Smurfs are evil communist witchcraft elves and Dungeons & Dragons is demonism, we know all about that! And let's not mention Harry Potter!

Well, excuse me for laughing at your obvious mental issues, it's a bit ableist, I suppose.

/me Rickrolls you

Terrie Briant #fundie

Your "God's word" is full of false nonsense and ancient savagery.

Genesis 30:37-39 - So black/white offspring would obviously result in cow-spotted and zebra people.

Idiocy aside, you're denying the fact that Homo Sapiens Sapiens is all the same Human species. That genetic diversity increases survival and fitness of the species.

Just admit that you're a racist bigot who will even deceptively use religious rhetoric to justify your lowly tendencies.

Your "know it's wrong" is bullshit. I'm a heterosexual white male and I always was naturally attracted by what seemed to be exotic to me, like hot black women. My genes apparently know what is right... Your problem is in your head.

John "Birdman" Bryant #racist

Anonymous #racist

Interestingly, the parasitic trolling on such boards participated in the anti-Western QAnon neo-nazi panic disinformation cult, then local and foreign propaganda circulated there was amplified by others, even some Trumpist white supremacist fools infiltrating the white house, like Gaetz.

Anonymous #fundie

Unfortunately accepting to engage with denialists may give the impression to the ignorant that they may have a point, with their straw men for false equivalence. Just use your $50 to ask a librarian, it's well established knowledge. Or consult a free encyclopedia and follow its sources. Also learn about science, it doesn't begin with conclusions, it derives them from evidence. Not how you work, indeed, so you project your propaganda method against science to deny reality. Concern trolling.

Anonymous #conspiracy

Anonymous #racist

Decency shaming for racism and the advocacy of the unacceptable. Extreme relativism to deny knowledge and human rights. Confusing humans with character classes in video games, confusing humans and women with video game NPCs, dehumanization. Neo-Nazism, incel persecution complex. Closed minded ideology dictation. Pseudointellectual bullshit.

Anonymous #dunning-kruger #pratt #racist #sexist

cH4OoW5 #racist

nGwsMpm9 #conspiracy #racist #sexist #wingnut

Anonymous #conspiracy

So everything wrong that Musk did was somehow the US government at work? The government controls his mind using time travel and neural implant technologies that Musk might develop in the future? And it orchestrates his economic decisions, disinformation amplification campaigns, bigotry campaigns, Trump campaigns, it's even behind his environmental pollution...

blueiverson #fundie

"God" never gave you the right to enslave and abuse women. Especially when "God" is only human patriarchy propaganda and ancient savagery. If you had any divine inspiration, you would likely not be stupid enough to confuse embryos with infants and to deny the suffering and risks that you're imposing on girls and women. You would be able to see all those cases of deadly makeshift hidden abortions where it's taboo and persecuted. You would understand that it's best for experts and medicine to evaluate the situation.