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Alan Burns #fundie

“I am not an expert,”
Okay.

“but there is evidence that the physical brain can deteriorate,”
Gotcha.

“and this will have consequences on the interface with the soul.”
there’s evidence that the soul needs a physical interface?
Why would that be?
The soul is supposed to be the persistent part of my personality on Earth, right?
What if I’m an atheist for my life, and I’m in a car accident, and while I recover, I become convinced that God awaits, but my soul can’t access that information?
I’m going to be let into Heaven because an OMniscient God knows that I’m a believer, but the last I knew I was atheist?
Or the other way around?
What if my family is in an accident and all die except me, and even after a life of faith, I lie there in the hospital bed raging at God for killing Mrs. Inc and all the little Incs, and withhold worship. My soul thinks we’re still faithful, but God kicks me down to Hell for what my wounded brain chose?

"Perception of our brain cells is probably the soul's only interface with this universe.”
Ah. So, I’ve been in liberty ports up and down the coast. Sailors rush to any chance to pour pollutants into their bloodstream and cripple the brain. Seen a few happily married men get drunk enough to go home with a woman of negotiable affection. So, while their soul might be pure, it looses the access to the decision making process through alcohol? And where it might have suggested that they stay pure and hew to their wife, it can’t be heard over the toxins of the intoxicant?

And there’s evidence for this?

Deleted #crackpot

kiwi1 #fundie

“The Interesting little FACT”
Fact in ALL CAPS is a good sign for the discussion. Because it’s FACTual.

“ is that creationism and science do NOT contradict themselves at all,”
Themselves? That’s kind of a given.
DO you mean to say they don’t contradict ‘each other,’ though?
Well, that depends on how you look at it.
Naturalistic science is silent on the subject of the supernatural. Creationism depends heavily on the supernatural. Supernatural being, doing supernatural acts, using supernatural powers…
Not a real contradiction, but this is like saying ‘left-handed screwdrivers do not contradict sewing machine bobbins.’ Not a lot of overlap…

“as liberals would have us believe.”
Right, right, we’re the gatekeepers of what you accept as science.

“ Only when so called scientific THEORIES are thrown into the mix do we have a conflict.”
Dude, everything in science is a theory.

“Question: So why are do Evolutionist hate creationism?
Answer: It comes down to MORALITY....”
A lie. And a stereotype. We don’t hate creationism, we just hate how much the creationISTS will lie to get their superstition taught as a fact.

“But if we can take the Creator out of the picture then we can make up the rules.”
You make up the rules, anyway. The Bible does not condemn slavery, but many on the Union side of the Civil War thought they were doing God’s will.
And the Bible does not condemn abortion. But many wave their crosses thinking they’re doing God’s will…

TJ ThirdEye #fundie

“[Feminism] help further destroy black male and female relations”’
Hmmm. Feminists want women to choose their own destiny, you’re telling them to shut up and accept the destiny YOU choose for them.
Can’t imagine how it’s OUR problem that your relationships fail…

“because these women bought into the idea that they can do what men do.”
I think i heard this same argument about segregation. ‘because blacks bought into the idea that they can do what whites do.’

“Know your goddamn role in the universe.”
Yep. Heard that in the 60s. A LOT.

“You aint no goddess woman so get that out your head and know ur role.”
I do remember adults when I was growing up who liked otehr boxers more than Ali, because those guys ‘knew their place.’

“Man is the is the dominate force of nature;”
And whites invented civilization. Do you buy into THAT argument?

“ understand your natural place in nature. You came from man so dont buy in that bullshit. Its a man world so get over it.”
Bigotry never falls far from the tree, does it?

Dr. Doom #racist

“Do not UNDERESTIMATE the HATE that the darkie has for the White Man.”
Darkie?
My grandmother learned that term in Florida in about 1930. She insisted that ’that’s what they wanted to be called!’ and wouldn’t abandon it for most of my life.
Until she had black great-grandkids. Dropped that habit in a hot minute.

“In a second term, he is likely to abolish the Marine Corps which are Lily-White”
I was Navy. And I do love the Marines, they were invented to keep sailors from getting hurt, but they are NOT Lily-white.

“and replace them with ZULU’s Pink Panthers and Ghetto Gangbangers.”
Just pure racist feargasm…

“There is talk of Drastic Military Cuts that he will make in a second term. All the cuts will probably be White Troops.”
Most of the time I was in, they would offer early-outs for rates that were overmanned. Some, rates with ATROCIOUS promotion chances, would say, “Anyone who joined after 1975 but before 1985 can get out tomorrow.”
Some would be more limited. “Any C3 Missile Tech with less than 14.5 years in, hasn’t gone to C4 school, served on the East Coast, drives a blue pickup, and talks with a slight Cajun accent…”
I can imagine that someone would offer early outs to ‘white’ troops, but it’s still voluntary. No one has to go.

“The GOP will protest the cuts, but afterwards the darkie”
Do you wear a zoot suit?

“ will probably replace them with his kind of Turds. The New Turd Army”
Army?
I thought we were talking the Marines?
Or do you not know that Marines are not soldiers?
Your credibility was low to start with but Jesus…

“will be Totally Anti-White and armed with the latest machine guns.”
Uh huh…

“ Ready and Willing to Attack the White Suburbs and get them some of that White Pussy and Shit!”
Dude, they have uniforms. They don’t need to attack or rape to get pussy. You really should see the action right outside of any major military base.

Kurt Wise #fundie

‘"Secular scientists who fear allowing the conclusions of creationism into secaular universities have good reason to be afraid because they are accountable to the creator, Kurt Wise, professor of theology and science at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, said on the Albert Mohler Radio Program Feb. 13.”
I want you to diagram this sentence and the sit and think about what you’ve done until you cry. JEEEEEEZ what a mess.
But the constitution STILL says you can’t teach Creationism in public schools, no matter if god approve or not.

““If it's true that there was a creation, then you realize that means there's someone in control," Wise said on the broadcast hosted daily by Southern Seminary's president."
Big if.

“"And if there was a flood-—in other words, a creator who actually judged this creation-—that means we're in big trouble.”
A creator who made man to be wicked, then punished them for being wicked, THEN repented the flood because man is just wicked by nature and the flood accomplished fuck all? Yeah, that’s a worry.

“So I think there's every reason why an evolutionist would be very frightened of creationists advocating creationism."
But they’re not. It’s strictly obeying the fucking law.

shuttle #conspiracy

“I'd like to make a statement:”
Why did you not just make the statement?

“You better hope there's a God,”
See, if i want one of my students to believe in a procedure step, i can show them the procedure. if i want them to believe in a gyroscope with no moving parts, i can offer the documentation. Discuss the science. Illustrate the physics.
I don’t just threaten them with failing the course if they don’t believe me.
The instructors I’ve had that depend on threats?
Either they sucked or their material was bullshit…

“whether or not you are an atheist, a deist, whatever, because the imminent COLLAPSE of our economy, merging of nations (New World Order) and Civil War within the United States itself is upon us.”
I do love hearing ‘imminent’ from people who are still waiting for Jesus to come back, and he said he’d be here 2000 years ago.

“If you don't know what I'm talking about, or you think it's another "conspiracy theory" post, go ahead and google it. There is no joke here.”
If there’s no joke, why am I laughing at you?

“You ever read about the Great Depression?”
Um, yes, we read the Grapes of Wrath in school.

“It's coming, and it's going to be the worst in histroy. And faster than you think. It is estimated by avid and expert investors in the Wall Street Journal that the collpase of the economy should hit the U.S. and the world itself by the middle of 2009 at the VERY LATEST.”
Noted.

“The state of California goes bankrupt at the end of February. What then?”
The mind boggles.

“To address those you think the stimulus plan is going to fix anything, do your research.”
When you say ‘research,’ you mean use google to confirm your bias, right?

“I would really not expect it, but appreciate it if you did some research before responding to this.”
Meh.

“Get your facts, because I'm only going to ignore troll posts.”
Aw, but they’re so funny!

“I expect nothing but "lol conspiracy theory" at this, but really I laugh at you. I laugh at everyone who nay says at the imminent death of the United States as all of you and I know it.”
Imminent! HA! And again, HA!

“The dollar is worth less than it has been ever, and it's only getting worse.”
Did you buy gold or bitcoin?

Aetherius Society #ufo #fundie

We do not believe that God would have just one son, and we do not believe that we, on Earth, are unique in having extraterrestrial intervention to help us through our evolution. But we do believe that it’s important to remove parking spaces.

Clif High #crackpot #magick #ufo #quack

Rapture Ready #fundie

“ So Cain married one of his sisters.”
Yep.
So, Cain kills Abel because God liked Abel’s sacrifices.
God is pissed off at the first murder on Earth.
Cain complains that if he stays, his family is going to deathitize him as a murderer.
God, who already was mad at Cain, and didn’t like his sacrifices, gives Cain a chance to run like hell…
Cain ends up building a city with… His sister. WHo is also Abel’s sister. Who is one of the people who Cain was afraid of that were going to justifiably deathitize him.
How did he find her and separate her from the rest of the family?
How does he sleep at night, not fearing that she’ll tell EVERYONE ELSE ON EARTH where he is so they can come deathitize him?
Why DOESN’T she tell EVERYONE ELSE ON EARTH where he is so they can come deathitize him?
How can anyone read this bullshit and nod and say, ‘Yeah, that’s what happened’?

Robert43 #fundie

“Why doesn't the Bible say anything about people going out and exploration of space?”
Because there is no space.
Bible cosmology is a flat Earth under a dome, water above and water below. A snowglobe turned inside out.
Every place we would go to, planets, moons, stars, sun, are all inside the sky, rolling around.
Bibleauthors didn’t foresee satellites, moon landings, mars probes, or orbiting telescopes that detect galaxies beyond human eyesight….

J C #racist #wingnut #psycho

@TFAltHist #257614
But why the Central African Republic specifically?

Perhaps they’ve watched the score-as-few-points-as-possible game show Pointless?

“The Central African Republic (CAR) is a legendary trivia "cheat code" on the BBC quiz show Pointless. Because it is landlocked, heavily forested and less prominent in global news, it was historically the most frequently used country by contestants to score exactly zero points in "name a country" rounds.”

JohnR7 #fundie

“Pasteur shows us that if you have a theory you have to run experments and test your theory.”
Uh, no. For the scientific method, we need repeatable observations. Not necessarily experiments.

“Even Indiana Jones after his summer adventure had to go back to the lab and his teaching job."
Lab?
What Lab does an investigative anthropologist do, you think?

“Darwin never did any work in the lab.”
No, but we have repeated his observations. not a flex like you think.

“A scientiest balances his field work with research and experments in the lab to back up his results from out in the field.”
So, the astronomers up the road from here, at MIT, have to perform experiments on stellar formation, novas, black holes? Or it’s not science…? Are you Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure?

"Darwin never did any of this.”
Again, not necessary.

“He just wrote books and that makes him a philosopher not a scientist.”
He recorded observations, which is what they do at those experiments you’re railing about.

“There is nothing wrong with philosophy, but it is not science, because there is no evidence or proof for it.”
You are so wrong it’s not even a mistake.

Marcus #wingnut

If California is a failed state, how does it maintain the highest GDP of all the states in the union?

J C #racist #wingnut #psycho

Mike Arthut #conspiracy

“ One point is the 700 telemetry tapes, "lost"? That would be proof in itself.”
Only if you can find evidence that they were ‘lost’ intentionally, AND prove that the intent was to hide the fact that they prove a flat Earth.
A memo, maybe, ‘Whoops! Flat Earth evident on 500 tapes, better destroy 700 to be sure.’?

“Can you agree there is NO CURVATURE?”
I’ve seen the curvature.
A REEEEEEEALLY big lake in Idaho. From one shore you can’t see the other shore. Water’s in the way.
But climb the hill behind you, moving away from the opposite shore, you climb high enough to see the beach on the other side.
Or you can watch the Ferry climb up the hill coming toward you.
It’s not terribly complicated.

“We need a in-depth interview with astro-nots, concerning this matter.”
Considering how VERY BIG the conspiracy would have to be, why would you believe a gotcha-interview?

“Also, the nest, photo -op, ISIS space broadcast., I would like to see them wearing NO SHIRT. PROVING, no harness is used to portray weightlessness. We can start from there.”
Mary Roach researched a book on space exploration. One thing she noted was a porno that purported to have been filmed in microgravity. Astronauts on a space station fucking the good life from all angles. She was thinking that was a LOT of time on the 0-gravity training planes, but watching it, she noticed that a actress’ hair did not behave as if it was floating in microgravity. It’s pretty obvious if you look for it. Especially if you go back and forth between ISS videos and this porno.
That’d be a LOT of fucking wires.

Lila Rose #conspiracy #fundie #wingnut

@Croquemitaine #121560
I think it was one of the Bush presidents that wanted to produce drugs at a press conference. And his writers wanted him to be able to say ‘This crack was purchased from a dealer a block away from THIS BUILDING!’ Doom, gloom, our unsafe streets, no patriotic feelings about the White House, and go on from there.

Truth was, they couldn’t find any dealers. nowhere near. They had to get a dealer the cops knew about to agree to come make a sale for their purposes. Had to buy a bigger purchase to make it worth his time. And had to give him an address.
“What do you mean, the white house? There’s like 30 white houses in this neighborhood! Where the fuck do you want to meet?”

But no, it wasn’t STAGED.

David J. Stewart #fundie

“Abortion is the Ultimate Racism!”
So, lacking any sort of rational argument, you resort to trying to guilt the liberals into your side of the argument.

“You want to talk about racism,”
I’m quite willing to, and your take on the first closeup of the black hero of the Star Wars movie is firm in my mind.

“Abortion is extreme discrimination.”
Only those sites that encourage blacks to have abortions while Whites have to have the babies.
The whole point of abortion rights is that the woman decides. Based on her body, not the kid’s race.

"Babies have rights too!”
No, rights start at the daylight end of the birth canal.

“ Who is the Supreme Court to say that a growing child is not a human being?”
That’s not what the decision says, but what has reality ever meant to you.

“The problem is that mothers don't love God. "Thou shalt not kill" (Exodus 20:13).”
Yes, that commandment also comes from the guy that consistently doesn’t consider anything ‘alive’ until first breath. ‘And the breath of God entered him and he became a living being’ sort of thing.
Noah only saved animals that breathe through nostrils.
If you’re fighting and cause a woman to miscarry, but she’s okay, you pay a fine but it’s not treated as murder.
You are cherry picking the bible for extrabiblical political ideology.

“If you look at abortion statistics (see www.blackgenocide.org), African American women are far more likely to have abortions than middle-class White women.”
Which could mean that African Americans are less likely to be able to afford one-more-child?

“It is evident that poverty and abortion are linked.”
So you support universal healthcare and free education to fight abortion?

“The sad thing is that poor Black mothers aren't giving up their babies because they're poor; BUT rather, because the government is targeting them with PRO-abortion propaganda through organizations such as Planned Parenthood (MURDERHOOD!).”
That’d be pretty racist, David. But forcing them to have the kid without guaranteeing their ability to raise the kid healthy and educated is also adding to their burdens. So it’s not abortion that’s racist, you fuckhead.

“If you're a Black woman who's had an abortion, don't you dare cry "racism," because you are the ultimate”
So, you’re using her skin color to deny her claim of racism?
What does that make you, you blithering idiot?

Ed Poor #fundie

“There is more to a person than his human body,”
That depends on your point of view.
To a biologist, there’s the biology and that’s pretty much it.
To a car manufacturer, there’s the butt and the distance to the gas pedal, steering wheel, etc.
To an opthalmologist, there’s the eye…
To credulous, superstitious people, there’s a soul, a spirit, guardian angels…

“… and biologists have apparently decided not to study or even acknowledge aspects of human beings which make them entirely distinct from animals.”
Because they have jobs.

“ In fact, along with Feuerbach and Lenin they have ideologically chosen to assert that humans evolved naturally from animals; that's why we are animals.”
That’s not ideology, that’s the science. It’s an underlaying fact for their entire industry.

“We need not propagate the erroneous assumptions of biologists, or their short-sightedness.”
Fine. Sure. Take horse laxatives' for all I care. Just don’t pretend it’s the superior science position.

“Science is more than just physical science. Anthropology and psychology are sciences, and they are by no means required to adhere to liberal, anti-religious positions such as methodological naturalism.”
All of science is naturalistic, bubbles. Secular is not anti-religious.

“Linneaus is free to put humans where he wants. Meanwhile, God has put us where He wants. Pick a side, my friend.”
Okay. When you have evidence for God that stands up to scrutiny, let me know.

Marcus #wingnut

I think if California were a literal failed state, the military or National Guard would have been called in.

J C #racist #wingnut #psycho

Q the Storm Rider/Juan O Savin #wingnut #crackpot #magick #conspiracy

Where’s McAfee? Is he actually dead?

No, he ain’t. He quit working for WWE a little while back, I heard he didn’t like how the storyline he was involved in was going. Not sure what he’s doing now, but he’ll probably be doing something with football again if he isn’t already. Oh, wait, you didn’t mean THAT McAfee?

J C #racist #wingnut #psycho

undermined our country on behave of Iran

“Me fail English? That’s unpossible!”

Moritani #ableist

Dude, when I was in school I tended to relate more to mature, structured adults than to noisy, chaotic children. And I’m autistic.

@Skide #257610

it is in fact far more resemblant of a typical Junji Ito comic book.

Considering what his work is like, do we even want to know?

You forgot I HATE BABIES!

But seriously, no. While I do have very little in common with neurotypical adults, I have just as little or less with children and frankly, I’m offended by the very comparison. My mind is not anything like a child’s, it is in fact far more resemblant of a typical Junji Ito comic book.

Autism is a developmental disability. That means we often share more in common with children that neurotypical adults.

No, it does not.

Oh cool, internalized ableism. No, being autistic doesn’t make you “basically a child.”

Stephen Miller #sexist #racist #transphobia #wingnut

@Zinnia #257580

Not that my expectations for the intelligence of people who engage in that shit are high or even exist but who the FUCK thinks eggs are vegan? Mistaking cheese for vegan fare, sure, it’s not a slab of bacon and that’s about their only understanding of food in general and what passes for cheese in America you cannot legally call cheese elsewhere in the world but eggs are very much an animal byproduct most would go right ahead and call meat. You’d think people who value the “lives” of fertilized eggs recognizing them as more deserving of rights than actual living people would keep that shit in mind.

Marcus #wingnut

And yet in comparison to many red states, especially here in the deep south, California is doing far better then them by seversal miles, in fact I’d say that many deep south states are more deserving of being called a “failed state” then California, California which would be 10th or 13th (not sure which) largest economy in the world if it was its’ own nation.

Additionally, there’s a reason why the tech community is still there even after their tech-bro idiots bitching about it endlessly, compared to many other red states, California has the people they need to grow their companies, IE it has the tech experts living in it while many red states frequently don’t have that.

Satchidanand #crackpot #racist #magick #homophobia #transphobia #quack #conspiracy

Aetherius Society #ufo #fundie

Démocratie Participative #sexist #racist

Marcus #wingnut

Démocratie Participative #sexist #racist

J C #racist #wingnut #psycho

except these are people who FLEED the Iranian government, many of whom did so back in 1979 after the revolution, and have had families born and raised here

you fuckers, no matter how much you like to pretend otherwise, are the mad ones here, not the left or anyone else you constantly scream and blame for all of societies issues and ills on.

Halden_Doerge #fundie

“It is inherantly anti-supernatural and skeptical.’
All of science IS, dork.
Including the science that leads to doctors not being proud of aprons that have blood from all of their surgeries, to show their experience.
The science that leads to eyeglasses, glaucoma surgery, cataract surgery.
The science that leads to refrigeration so food lasts more than a few days.
The science that produced your car, your home heating system, your stable roof that doesn’t leak, your paint that doesn’t give your kid lead poisoning, to your water system not being lead-lined.

None ofthat came from any supernatural prayer or spell….

just spend another trillion #fundie

“Should rape be legalized?

Best Answer: of course.”
I’d really like to publish a list of every incel that votes for legalizing rape. And if he gets kidnapped by mysterious individuals, tied to a mechanical bull, and raped by a mule until he can’t come any more, then he shouldn’t have led them on.

J C #racist #wingnut #psycho

Trump lost the Iran war he started illegally, and now he wants to punish anyone he can. We have suffered nothing from refugees without a criminal record, but The Orange Bully is just lashing out.

This is not a sane administration.

“ Please, these people have to take responsibility for their actions at some point as well.”
Then you support the unredacted Epstein files being published and Bonespurs being prosecuted?

Timber #fundie

“She apologied for putting God before her family....?”
Well, i’d say that she put her BELIEF in God before her responsibilities to her family.

“Oops. Sorry, PC crowd, but God is supposed to come first...”
Political Correctness is just to prevent causing accidental offense.
You telling me that your superstition is more important than my wife, my kids, my fucking goldfish, is intentionally offensive, and PC does not correct you, nor my wish that you have anal sex with a chainsaw while prostate before the altar at your church. It’s completely intentional.

“A #1...”
Yes, which is why Paul said not to get married, and if you must, not to have kids. They distract from your faith and they may not live long enough to become Christains before Christ comes back.

“in everything. Ahead of yourself, ahead of your spouse, ahead of your kids...”
So, next time someone uses ‘but think of the children’ as an emotional appeal, they can fuck right off, I take it.

“(oh noez, he said in front of your KIDS!!!)...”
Why assume I’m hand-wringing, this is just a detail of what you already said.

“yup. That's how it's SUPPOSED to work.”
Then That’s another reason I’ll never become a Christain without significant dain bramage…

“Putting God second...even after your precious little munchkins...is a disaster waiting to happen.”
Okay.
I can’t count how many things I hold in higher esteem than your god. I have a colonoscopy in three years, I already hold that appointment higher than your god.

Eden Decoded #fundie

“Slavery happened in America because Black people turned away from God. When they turned back to God, slavery ended.”
that’s hilarious.
Slave Owners converted their slaves to Christainity, BUT, they issued them bibles without the Book of Exodus.
Didn’t want the property to get weird ideas about being freed in the name of God…

“Now Black people are turning away from God again...what do you think is going to happen next?!”
Have you been watching the Churches? EVERYONE is turning away from God. Congregations get smaller, churches get sold off, schools closed…
I think a big part of it is that churches keep sending these horrible messages about Blacks deserving slavery, about Gays being icky sick disgusting people, and transgenders being antichrists.
But people KNOW gays, they’ve MET transgenders, they are more sympathetic to the slaves than to the slavers. They’re rejecting the message. Not necessarily God, ust any fuckwit who tries to tell them God wants dumb shit. So they go independent. And the congregations gets boiled down to the hardliners whose kids won’t answer their texts.

Donald J. Trump #wingnut #conspiracy

@Skide #257566

I think it’s a Freudian slip betraying his long-standing desire to turn the full force of the military against American citizens… AND his brain being rotten oatmeal.

Q the Storm Rider/Juan O Savin #wingnut #crackpot #magick #conspiracy

Charlie Kirk actually went to a school called Wheeling High School, a public school, not a special place for special singled-out ‘highly intelligent’ kids. But judging by the fact that 80% of its pupils go on to get a degree (Kirk wasn’t one of them) it’s a good school. I only know this because I just looked it up.

Clif High #crackpot #magick #ufo #quack

AIs don’t have any understanding of what they are saying. They are instead using a big language model to try and find previous answers to questions. If you ask them absurd or intentionally misleading questions they quickly are reduced to feeding you back random stuff fit into sentences. Nothing supernatural going on.

Q the Storm Rider/Juan O Savin #wingnut #crackpot #magick #conspiracy

cathuluelitist #sexist

Leo Zagami #ufo #fundie #conspiracy

I see many claims and absolutely no evidence. You've got a decent "X-Files" type novel here, Leo, but it needs a lot of work.

Lisa Renee #crackpot #ufo #magick #conspiracy

BitcoinIsFemale #racist #wingnut

“The problem is that Blacks don't know how to work, and definitely don't know how to work hard.”
Yes,yes, this is why we imported them as slaves for a few hundred years. Because it was such a waste of money trying to get work out of them…
History does seem to poke this idea one right in the beady eyeball.

Leo Zagami #ufo #fundie #conspiracy

Let me know when Pope Leo XIV is shown with a Romulan commander and there’s a Valdore-class Warbird hovering above the Vatican, OP. [/Doug Piranha-levels of sarcasm]