You know what's sad? That even the most idiotic racist/sexist/homophobic vegan holds the moral highground, when compared to the most "peaceful" non-vegan. 'Cuz while they may be hypocritical assholes in their words and behavior, they don't literally enslave and mass-kill others for their greed/pleasure on a daily basis like non-vegans do.
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One glaring flaw (not the only one) is that the vast majority of non-vegans do not mass kill anything. And the ones that do butcher animals for sustenance. Sure, groups will slaughter animals for fun and profit, but groups that do (PETA, animal fights, psychos) are rare.
I'll take a non-hypocritical non-vegan over a "hypocritical asshole" any day of the week.
Oh but by no means! While technically ya vegans love to tout about how your diet specifically precludes animal suffering and death but that is only true if you are willing to look no further than your plate. When the real mechanics and the gears of how your precious vegan food is most often obtained, you’d be guilty of way more death and destruction than me or for that matter most folks around these parts.
Orangutans, they are fully and truly sapient, ya know? Does it mean they do not deserve to have their communities live in peace and are in fact worth less to you than a life of a cow? Because by your own logic you and your kind are slaughtering and displacing them by their dozens for shit like palm oil and couple other products you people cannot live without on average while I am a total hitler for having meat on my plate round 2 days a week and making damned sure we home cook.
Not the first time I’ve seen crap like that from a vegan and most likely will not be the last.
If someone tries to take the moral high ground on homophobia based on their being a vegan, only an idiot would let them use that.
I mean, cool, you don’t wear leather belts. Doesn’t make you an expert on animal husbandry, much less human sexuality.
they don't literally enslave and mass-kill others for their greed/pleasure on a daily basis like non-vegans do.
…except we literally do not do that. Aside from the fact that wether or not it is even possible to enslave a non-sapient race rather than simply domesticated them, eating animals is not done simply out of greed/pleasure. Well, except that one time I had the pleasure of eating Wagyu beef, but anyway… As I was saying, animals eating animals is, shockingly, an inherent part of nature. We humans are simply omnivores, eating meat is both part of our biology and our psychology. What, are you going to forbid humble bears from eating salmon next? At least be happy we have laws against killing animals inhumanely. As opposed to nature, where being eaten and digested alive is not uncommon.
And before you say anything, aside from the occasional housefly I never kill animals if I can help it. Hell, I love my (parents’) dog immensly, have a lot of compassion for mistreated pets, and even have saved wasps drowning in a pool!
@Sasha #117479
This. Any time a vegan starts to try to convince me that by my becoming vegan, it’d benefit me, my family, th world, i have to ask if it’s going to make me an insufferable prick. ’Cause that’s a hard stop for me.
@Timjer #117392
A fair number of them actually do condemn wild omnivores and carnivores that way! If they had undergone proper spiritual development, according to them, they would never have evolved to need to partake of animals.
What their response is to some plant species whose individual members can learn in some fashion (i.e. plants could have their own sort of sentience—the marker of sacrosanctity to them, rather than sapience) should be interesting.
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So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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