So, the claims.
It's infuriating. As though pretending we don't know the difference between the sexes will magically make it so women and girls are no longer exploited for being women and girls.
Aaand we have a strawman!
One, we are not pretending. Disagreement is not pretense, even disagreement on things you consider obvious and fundamental. But of course, you cannot even imagine someone sincerely having non-GC views, not out of ignorance, but genuine conviction. As always, you refuse reality if it clashes with your GC ideologyâs precepts.
Two, we know the differences between the sexes perfectly well. Thatâs why we medically transition in the first place, hun!
Three, acknowledging that gender identity exists and that it doesnât have to correspond to biological sex wonât end the exploitation of women and girls for being themselves, or for their biological traits.
But itâs not supposed to!
Itâs not meant as some magical solution to gendered (sorry, sexed) oppression! And we donât claim it is!
Theyâre different spheres. Sure, thereâs some overlap, but in this case youâre basically comparing apples and oranges, or making associations where there arenât supposed to be any.
- when we read about atrocities that happen to women in developing countries because they are women and feel a sadness and outrage that you can only feel as another woman and we say something like "sex is not a choice. Look what is happening to these women because of their sex. Our sex has been used against us for centuries across every society and it is horrible gaslighting to pretend it doesn't exist, it's a choice, or it can be changed."
Gendered oppression indeed originates from biological sex differences.
Yes, I said it â as a trans woman from the supposed âtrans cultâ. Does that surprise you?
Average differences in strength, differences in gestation, and more⌠they led to gendered oppression a very long time ago, in much more primitive times when biology was crucial in ways that it no longer is. When physical strength meant survival, when gendered division of labor had much to do with only one sex being pregnant and needing to care for children in ways the other couldnât.
That is not a controversial view among us.
But gendered oppression didnât end there. It evolved.
When a man leers at you and harasses you, is that because he sees your chromosomes with his X-ray vision? Smells that youâre ovulating?
Or is it because heâs been raised in a patriarchal system with all the entitlement and lack of empathy that implies? Because he doesnât want to control his urges of attraction, and has no respect for fellow human beings? Because his surroundings did not teach him that respect, and tolerated the lack of it?
Many trans women pass, eventually. Yes, they do.
Only a GC ideologue would think they donât get treated as women by strange, scary men outside.
Man sees boobs, feminine appearance? Man sees a target, and gets inappropriate.
Many trans men pass, too.
And only a GC ideologue high on her own fumes would fail to recognize that seeing a burly bearded dude would dissuade many of those same scary men. Those men donât see the vulva underneath his clothes; they see a burly, bearded dude theyâre not attracted to and who might fight back. Hence, they probably wonât get handsy with him, and will likely ignore him.
On the street, in the office, in a club⌠we humans donât see peopleâs genitals, or chromosomes, or childbearing capability. We see their gendered attributes and presentation.
And we treat them accordingly. According to ways we were taught, with all the stereotypes or lack thereof we imbibed.
Much of gendered oppression is nowadays divorced from simple biology (AKA sex). Even if it has roots in biology, its actual implementation tends to have much more to do with⌠gender.
That doesnât mean that sex isnât also still a vector of oppression! After all, discrimination based on pregnancy very much exists.
But⌠no trans person Iâve seen denies that. We merely deny your simplifications, banalizations and strawmaning of our actual positions.
Reality is complex. The intersection of sex and gender is tangled and varied. Biology is not the be-all-end-all you seem to think it is.
And even so⌠biology can change to an extent.
Iâm on HRT. My breasts are growing. My appearance is gradually becoming more feminized. That is very real.
You think strange, creepy men wonât notice me eventually?
A trans woman who used to be on this very site bore sad witness to what happened when her breasts underwent a growth spurt because of hormones.
Guess what? Creepy men started to disgustingly hit on her and get handsy, far more often than they used to.
Just because she had bigger breasts, and they noticed.
To them, sheâs just another woman, and thus a target. Just like you and your Ovarite âsistersâ.
Now tell me again how this is âa sadness and outrage that you can only feel as another womanâ. Of course, another cisgender non-trans biological woman.
And those women and girls in developing countries who experience atrocities, who suffer sexual violence⌠you think we donât feel for them?
You seriously think that we believe they can escape gendered oppression by⌠just stating that theyâre trans men? Identifying differently?
Only a gender-critical zealot stuck deep in her echo-chamber could think that about us.
The view you ascribe to us is a strawman, an artifact of the echo chamber you inhabit and its incestuous speculation detached from the real world. You decided that this is what we believe, so it must be true. Even if we tell you otherwise. But⌠you donât really listen. Instead, you assume, cherrypick⌠and misrepresent based on your own assumptions and cherry-pickings.
We keep telling you, and you could actually listen. No, not to your shock & mock target of the day whose quote someone posted to Ovarit; but rather to us, people who are not caricatures, in the wild, where we speak our minds in a normal context.
But no, weâre all just liars, right? Our lives bear no resemblance to your own whatsoever. It cannot be. Gender-critical precepts donât allow it!
What we say, itâs all lies.
Our lived experiences, nothing but lies.
Our having been raped, it never happened.
Weâre just making it up for attention or pity or oppression pointsâŚ
Just like all those men say about women when they come out with the horrors that happened to them.
Our having been harassed and demeaned due to being seen as women, all lies â and even if it wasnât, we must have enjoyed it because weâre sluts perverts.
Thatâs what your kind keeps saying about us, right? We LOVE the attention, the catcalls, the ogling and touches and more. Weâre horny all the time. You even have an out-of-context quote by some trans woman on the internet to prove it, look!
Just like those creepy men tell you that youâre lying and actually really enjoyed it when they had their way with you.
And if we ARE being harassed, well, then itâs just our own damn fault, right?
We chose to be âgender-specialâ, when we could have just been proper men â and therefore off the radar. âPlay stupid games, win stupid prizesâ.
Just like those men tell you that if you just dressed more modestly, everything would have been fine.
And even if itâs not our fault, why should you care? We are not you. You have your own problems to take care of.
Just like so many men donât care when it happens to you. Because youâre not them. They have their own problems to bother with.
But when we tell you what itâs like to be us, when we ask to be understood and not just brushed away⌠you refuse to take us seriously.
Instead, you basically put your fingers into your ears, say âLA LA LA, WE CANâT HEAR YOU, LIARâ, and just keep on repeating your echo-chamberâs ideas on what we must be like, writing off any dissonance as us lying and being malicious or deluded.
Just like so many men refuse to listen to you, and project their own stereotypes and ideas on what you must be like onto you.
You tell them, but they ignore you.
We lie, because men lie. Thatâs just who they are. Just ask your very own Spencer_shayy, or mathlover, or any number of your âsistersâ.
Just like those very confident bros go on about women being manipulative by nature. âWomen lieâ, they say; for gain, for money, for revenge⌠because thatâs their nature.
But no, you know what weâre really like. You know our true nature, our motives, the true source of our desires. You know what insatiable urges drive us, urges that need to be restrained for the greater good of society and even ourselves. You know what would be best for us, and that we canât be trusted with our own well-being. Leaving that to us would be⌠dangerous.
Just like all those patriarchs across those centuries you mentioned knew what your kind were âreallyâ like. They knew the true nature of woman, your motives, desires. Your âinsatiable urgesâ that needed a firm male hand and a cool male intellect to restrain them, for the greater good of society and yourselves. They knew what was best for you, and how you couldnât be trusted with your own well-being. Those men thought that leaving that to you would be⌠dangerous.
Do you realize what youâve become, GCs?
Can you ever stop and think for a moment? Actually reflect on yourselves?
Or will you, if one of you ever actually reads what I said here, just conclude the inevitable?
Which is that this here is just yet another âAGP TIMâ whining, attention-whoring, and â of course â reversing victim and offender, inverting oppressed and oppressor.
Thatâs what youâre thinking, isnât it? That what you saw here was just more noise, more nonsense from a privileged white male pornsick asshole who has never had to deal with real hardship, and is appropriating victimhood in order to feel⌠special. Or to use it as a battering ram in order to enter your spaces.
All of that in order to spite you. Oppress you. Mock your pain and suffering. Rape you.
All of us, doing that and just that, being like that and only like that, for those reasons and no other.
Thatâs the world according to you gender-criticals, isnât it? As you keep saying to us, over and over again.
Well then⌠forget it. You know best. Always and without exception.
You are gender-critical â the sole and final guardian of the truth, the only sane woman left, the eternal victim who never can do harm or wrong. You have cracked how the world works, you know my mind and the mind of every trans person on this planet better than we know ourselves.
Forgive me for ever having thought otherwise.
I will wheesht. It is not my place to question you⌠wise sister.
