I know 25 parents of kids who went from normal --> autistic < 24 hrs after a vaccine shot. How come nobody knows of any cases where kids go from normal --> autistic < 24 hrs before their scheduled vaccine shot? And no, it isn't recall bias and I'll show you why I know that.
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In all likelihood, the child has been developing abnormally the entire time, but the parents only took notice after they had a concrete event - an event they had been primed to expect behavioural changes towards autism by stupid conspiracy theoories - to pin it to.#
By the way, how long is the time between the vaccination and them making this connection? The longer it is, and also the more time has passed since the connection was made, the more likely selective memory and confabulation become.
The plural of “anecdote” is not evidence.
I know 25 parents of kids who went from normal --> autistic < 24 hrs after a vaccine shot.
Somehow I HIGHLY doubt that. Not just because Vaccines simply do NOT cause Autism, not just because it (rewiring the brain) physically shouldn’t work that fast, but also because I find it VERY improbable that you just happen to personally know 25 couples who had that very… “unlikely” thing happen to them all at once when you needed the “evidence” most.
You know 25 parents blaming vaccines as their kids diagnosis of autism came around the same time they were vaccinated.
Correlation is not causation. Ask doctors not parents, ask the people working to understand autism and vaccines and get back to me.
Oh look, it’s another version of the “I saw the light go out of my child’s eyes” wailing over-dramatization! That’s not how autism works, that’s not how the brain works, that’s not how vaccines work.
@Timjer #170876
Well, he said “parents”, not “couples”, so the lower boundary is twelve couples and one single parent (or one where only one parent believes this?).
@TheKingOfRhye #170927
went from normal --> autistic
As an actual person with autism, let me say, you can fuck the hell off with that. And fuck the whole “anti-vax” movement as well.
There are different degrees of autism. Maybe yours is mild? Maybe what Steve means is going from neurotypical to displaying autistic traits within 24 hours of being vaxxed. Of course it's possible Steve's lying about knowing all these parents of autistic kids. Either Steve's lying or vaccine's really do cause autism. Personally I'd prefer it if Steve publicly debates a vaccine scientist about whether or not vaccines cause autism.
When I read your comment. I thought "TheKingOfRhye's a WWE fan." I googled wwe autism. I came across a 20 August 2016 article called "The WWE Wrestler With a Heart of Gold" about an autistic girl meeting Mick Foley. Maybe you'd want to read it?
So, you're saying TWENTY FIVE parents had their kids tested for autism, tests negative, then tested again within 24 hours of their vaccination, and it was positive?
I have the doubts.
If this isn't a complete fabrication, I'm more thinking 7 parents had kids on the spectrum, but not confirmed, who got them tested after the vacc (2 weeks after) and hope to sue Fauci.
@C #170932
He is lying. Vaccines do not cause autism, fucking period
Why are you talking, as if there is ANY sort of controversy around it? Why do you want any debating with a disturbed, lying cretin, who clearly tries to treat autism as a disability and needs to have someone “take the blame” for what is in most cases an awesome neurodivergence?
We do not debate established medical facts here.
@C #170932
“Maybe what Steve means is going from neurotypical to displaying autistic traits within 24 hours of being vaxxed.”
Um, it takes a bit to schedule an autism evaluation. And people don’t just do it out of the blue. My grandkid was tested, but it took a long time of noticing some issues with her before her parents started looking into testing. If we assume Steve is not just lying his fucking ass off, this means that EITHER:
1) the parents had autism concerns well before the vaccination and got the jab the day before the scheduled test. In which case there’s LESS than no reason to suspect the vaccine caused it, hte kid was NOT Neurotypical to start with.
2) the parents had autism concerns within about ten minutes of the vaccination, and got a favor from a doctor or other professional to get the autism test within one day. TWENTY FIVE parents had concerns within a few minutes AND had a friend they could call in a favor for AND Steven knows ALL of these people. This means if the vaccine causes autims it’ll be visible before they let you walk out of the vaccination site.
Seriously, we tend to assume our kids are typical. In all aspects. My coworker just discovered that two of his kids are colorblind. One is halfway through getting his driver’s license. And the mom is a child-development NURSE. That’s a lot of inertia to overcome within 10-30 minutes, to get them to the point of worrying enough to get the test within 24 hours.
How can you possibly look at this alarmist horseshit and think there’s ANYTHING to it but ignorant fear mongering? I mean, i’ve read better story lines from virgins writing sex scenes. At least they’re trying to make it hold together.
Confused?
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