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Omgodzilla #psycho

Your version of A Modest Proposal needs work.

Various Commenters #dunning-kruger #racist

This seems to come from the same type of attitude as people who are against safe spaces and class action lawsuits. “If you really cared, you’d leave yourself vulnerable, fight alone against armies, and not give a shit about other people in the same situation! Only you should matter to you, and banding together for safety and mutual aid is hypocrisy.” Not how most humans function, bucko.

Lebensmüder #pratt #transphobia

@TheKingOfRhye #101632

“Transbian” means, depending on who’s using it, a transwoman who is a lesbian, a transwoman who only dates other trans people because “cis nonsense” is too much to deal with, or a “deluded man who thinks that being a woman will make it easier to date women” (the latter being used only by bigots). It’s been around for awhile (I first saw it around 2008 or thereabouts, but suspect it’s even older) so it’s not something they just made up.

More generally: I suspect the “infected, feces covered hole” is a reference to the rare botched surgery which causes a hole to form between the large intestine and the neovagina. Haven’t heard of that ever happening after the early 1990s, though.

Even more generally: There’s this weird thing which has been going on since the late 1970s at least where some 2nd-wave feminists and their TERF descendants tried to portray trans women as hairy and grotesque, with a gaping infected wound between their legs. The irony being was that certain breeds of anti-feminists would portray them in much the same way. It’s dehumanization as a defense mechanism.

Various TERFs #transphobia #sexist #pratt

This is starting to make sense. There was a bit that I never quite understood about typical TERF ideology, but this made something click.

It’s basically black and white thinking and “us versus them” run amok. There’s “our beliefs” versus “other beliefs”. Everything which is incompatible with “our beliefs” must come from an ideological source which is fundamentally the opposite. This includes a wide array of ideologies which are in reality incompatible with (and generally hostile toward) each other. It’s not much different than religious fundies who claim that you accept Jesus as your lord and savior, or else you worship Satan whether you recognize it or not, there is no other option. It does, however, require building up a barely-coherent “not us” worldview which accounts for the existence of incels, third-wave feminists, fundies who aren’t TERF-friendly, parts of the LGBTQ+ spectrum, MRAs/Redpillers/MGTOWs, etc. as their “Satan”. The resulting Frankensteinian pastiche is what everyone against them must believe in, yet almost certainly no one does.

I mean, it’s obvious in hindsight, fundies of all stripes tend to think very similarly, even when their beliefs and conclusions are very different.

Brian Niemeier #fundie

If Christians were really oppressed like some fundies say they are, wouldn’t publicly declaring your religion put a big target on your back? Not saying that Niemeier believes this, but some do…

S Michael Houdmann #fundie #psycho

Given that God is willing to kill innocents to make a point, including his own followers, it’s not given that being a “true believer” will protect you from covid. Current evidence suggests otherwise…

starwars #transphobia #pratt

But… gay trans people exist…

[Edit] In case it’s not clear, I was meaning why would the “TRA cult” not believe in homosexuality if we distinguished gay trans people from hetero/bi/pan/ace/whatever ones.

DissidentMama #homophobia #wingnut #conspiracy

Sure there is. The moment you surrender, there will be peace. You can still go on being heteros with breeding fetishes, if that’s what you want. A few jackasses will mock you, but otherwise no one will stop you.

…Of course, that’s not an “acceptable” answer, as they want absolute control over what their children see and hear, so they can’t “catch the gay” (as if that has ever been effective). And they can’t do that so long as the “rainbow mafia” has any degree of freedom.

David Icke #crackpot #conspiracy #homophobia #transphobia #kinkshaming #quack #dunning-kruger

Is he pushing the idea that humans are gods, or fragments of a single god, trapped in a highly restrictive cage of flesh and trained by society to fully embrace the cage? If so, usually people like that tend to promote celibacy rather than heterosexuality. If not, I’ve got nothin’.

@MegQuahogRI #transphobia #pratt

ice pick lobotomies.

If you mean trepanation, that still sees legitimate use on rare occasions.

If you mean transorbital lobotomy, then that was a desperation tactic to try to cure grand mal seizures, which can kill if left untreated. It was valid (if risky) medicine back before effective medications were developed to control it. It’s likely that better treatments will exist for trans people in the future, but I strongly suspect they won’t be what you’re hoping for.

Dennis Prager #wingnut #god-complex

SDarbey #crackpot #pratt #transphobia #wingnut

Outside of the ordinary confusion which comes with discovering oneself, most people know what they want. The extra confusion mostly comes from others who don’t understand what certain people want, or why, and thus conclude that those people don’t really want what they say they do, they’re just delusional or brainwashed or something.

Kerry Cassidy #conspiracy #wingnut #fundie

Toráh en España #fundie

@Anon-e-moose #100176

You still need special permission to enter the Pripyat Exclusion Zone, and very few people are granted that, so there’s a bit more stopping them than themselves.

anonymous #fundie #wingnut

Eh, I wouldn’t consider Trump to be a good candidate for being the Beast. Maybe the Beast’s puppet, to be disposed of when no longer needed? But his more religious followers are definitely akin to the Beast’s Antichrists.

…That would make Vladimir Putin the Beast, though.

Medeea Greere #crackpot #wingnut #fundie #conspiracy

Yeah, we’re seeing more sinkholes. The cause of it varies by location, but aside from the ones in the arctic caused by melting permafrost, most of it can clearly be attributed to local humans not having been aware of the long-term consequences of their actions decades ago, and usually understandably so.

Water level is rising, not sinking. And I don’t think you understand how black holes or dimensions work.

Awakened-UK #crackpot #racist #ufo #magick #fundie

I spend too much time reading this kind of shit. I actually understood most of that.

By “understood” I’m not implying that any aspect of this has anything remotely to do with reality, which it doesn’t.

J973 #sexist #psycho

Look, it’s really really douchey if someone is basically, I orgasmed, I’m done, if you haven’t that’s your problem not mine. They still have the right to do that, though, and you have every right to avoid them afterward (or divorce them, if it somehow got that far) and tell other people what a garbage human they are. I find it really interesting, though, how men usually get a pass for such behavior, but with women a lot of people are like “it’s not rape if you consented at the beginning” regardless of whether douchey motivations are involved.

Two Anonymous Cowards #sexist #wingnut

Our older generations were wise to allow only males to vote. They knew females are easily tricked into voting for total frauds and traitors.

There were two common reasons (in the US at least, not sure about elsewhere) given as to why women weren’t allowed to vote: One, it was taken as given by some people that most women would just obey their fathers (if unmarried) or husbands (if married) thus effectively giving those men two votes, making it “unfair” for unmarried men. (And on the occasion when they didn’t, it would be effectively giving those men zero votes instead, which is “unfair” to their father or husband.) The other was that US interests hinged on warfare and colonization, and that women would be more likely to vote against such things (moral issues aside, it was ironically not even true enough to matter much).

These days, most of the objections come from the place of “manz is lawjick! womanz is eemoshun!” by men who are overly emotional and wouldn’t recognize logic if it waved a sign in their face saying “hi! I’m logic”. With occasional side servings of both men and women who are all “women can only be happy if they’re forced into submission, and submission includes no voting” and get real weird about imposing their particular fetish on others.

Toráh en España #fundie #conspiracy

There were a bunch of estimates on how old the earth was, ranging from around 4200-4300 BCE to much, much older. John Ussher spent years studying the Old Testament, came up with October 4004 BCE, didn’t really explain how he came up with that, and then it just became the official answer from that point on.

The next answer which was commonly accepted for awhile, “Earth has existed forever”, wasn’t much of an improvement.

IrishTheFrenchie & zephyrean #transphobia #pratt

Nicholas Pereira #crackpot #god-complex #quack #wingnut

Not occasionally indulging (even just to masturbate) when you have a sex drive results in nervous energy. Nervous energy ≠ magic. If you want to be more productive at the cost of a minor drop in quality and/or effectiveness, drink coffee instead.

Also, even if it worked, if you wanted to use your powers to be a wizard in bed, you’re only going to be able to do that once per relationship, generally.

Steamboatkevin #racist

People like this keep trying to define racism and rape out of existence as well. One wonders at their motivations…

mars3127 & Evilpickle7 #moonbat #sexist #transphobia

Thing is, though, phrases like “menstruating people”, or “people with uteruses”, or “people with cervixes” (I’ve had a doctor use the latter phrase during an exam) do sound kind of like reducing people to body parts? Some people don’t mind, especially if they know why it’s being used, but for others it sounds a bit dehumanizing. And in my experience, cis men usually get exempt from this sort of language, which looks kind of bad? In the future when we have 30 semi-official genders and mix and match body parts, there won’t be any other choice, but for now, it falls under “well-meaning, but not yet clear if it’s an actual improvement.”

That being said, the loudest complaints are coming from TERF and TERF-adjacent women who claim such traits as being inherent and exclusive to womanhood. So if one goes out of their way to avoid using the word “woman” when you’re talking about physical traits generally seen only in AFAB people, then it’s “erasing womanhood”. It’s not, but it *is* invalidating their identity. We probably *should* be invalidating their identities, because the way they frame it is so toxic. So I’m tempted to say that it’s a net positive for that reason alone.

Henry Makow, PhD #conspiracy #sexist #racist #fundie

Back then communists (and socialists and masons, who were also “communists”) were trying to undermine everyone’s everything, to the point where there were people who were afraid of communists stealing their cats. And when that paranoia died down, we got the satanic panic as a substitute. And now satanists were stealing and sacrificing their cats…

Jerry Derecha/Adrenogate #crackpot #racist #ufo #fundie #magick #conspiracy #wingnut

“You have no right to be offended because I have decided you aren’t a legitimate target for that form of bigotry” …even if that made sense, it’d still be really unhelpful for those who are targeted anyway.

That’s ignoring the casual dismissal of white supremacy, followed by the crackpot salad used to justify it.

Various TERFs #pratt #transphobia

The weirdest part is where it’s implied that the schadenfreude extends to the minor height reduction effect which sometimes happens with long-term estrogen use. Taller transwomen are nearly always happy if it happens; shorter ones rarely mind. If this was intentional, then it’s a good example of how wide the disconnect is between reality and the shit they make up to justify their worldview.

Mark #fundie

If he thinks that’s bad, then there’s the now-defunct online game Conan: Exiles from around the same time. While I haven’t played it (not really a gamer) I can note that you started out with nothing, and stripped down to the bare minimum; depending on the server, the bare minimum was either not much more than underwear, or nothing but a skimpy loincloth (with even women being barechested), or flat out fully and explicitly naked. Stripping corpses resulted in the same degree of nudity, as did encountering other players who were just starting out.

Reportedly, the game was very much a deliberate going-through-hell experience, followed by making your own little hell kingdom in the world. It even had kidnapping NPCs, torturing them until they break, and then turning them into your personal slaves as game mechanics. I don’t know if there was any actual sex in it (given the source material I wouldn’t be surprised if it included rape), though you could turn male NPCs into sexy dancer slaves if you wanted to. And of course like most modern games it was fairly buggy early on.

You wanted to complain, should’ve complained about that one. Skyrim got nothing in comparison.

DavidByron2 #dunning-kruger #sexist #transphobia #wingnut

Most Transmen are happy to escape “female privileges” which mostly aren’t privileges in any meaningful sense. If they’re not full stealth then they’re not fully taken seriously as a man, which has its good sides (avoiding the worst of male stereotypes) and bad sides (lack of respect for identity, lack of full access to “male privileges” which are much more often actual privileges) but it’s not a good thing as a whole.

There do exist some remnants of second-wave radfem movements (and even then, not all of them) and their modern actually-feminist-and-not-just-appropriating-feminist-language TERF counterparts¹ who do sort of fit that description, but they’re a minority who definitely don’t represent mainstream feminism.

¹(By which I mean that not all TERFs are feminists in any meaningful sense, but some still are.)

Declan Finn #wingnut #psycho

There exist people who believe that London is under Sharia Law, and there are areas within the city where white people risk being executed just for being white. Of course, those people mostly don’t live in London, and even visiting the place makes that claim immediately seem dubious. This is more extreme than the New Jersey claim, and no less ridiculous.

This is just scaremongering by people who need to believe that Muslims are conquering the world and engaging in swordpoint conversions, so they can justify doing much the same themselves, except under the banner of “religious freedom” and “protecting Christians”.

Tenshi #dunning-kruger #elitist #homophobia #racist #sexist #wingnut

In addition to most of what other people have said, the typical incel is so socially inept that he (or rarely, she¹) grotesquely misinterprets normal human interactions. They see only bits and pieces of the surface level, link together unrelated elements, and apply the worst possible interpretation.

To be fair, most of them probably aren’t self-aware enough to know that they’re essentially projecting their own self-hatred on others. That doesn’t and shouldn’t earn them any sympathy points. It’s merely a useful piece of information for helping those who can be and are willing to be redeemed get out of the incel morass.

¹(Femcels do exist outside of parodies, though they’re much rarer and mostly lesbian. Also a tiny portion of younger transwomen say they went through an incel phase as teenagers, and most of them don’t expect to be quickly or easily forgiven for it. That does not mean, however, that most incels are deeply closeted transgirls, they’re not, and it’s transphobic to assume that.)

Linds Anthony #fundie

We have to follow God’s word… as interpreted by flawed humans. God doesn’t forgive… because *some* flawed humans don’t think he would. Okay then.

Eve knew PRECISELY what would happen if she ate the fruit.

Eve only knew what would happen based on the Serpent’s word. God only told Adam, and he didn’t say what the consequences would be, only that he shouldn’t do it. That is, unless the good book was written by flawed humans and your flawed human understanding is better than whoever wrote it…

maseisbigsexy #moonbat #pratt #psycho

Well, when you think that Stalin was merely a communist, but Obama was a communist, a fascist, a cultural marxist, and a secret Muslim, and that all of those things are bad, then this is a pretty obvious conclusion…

Arlo Calles #fundie

@Yutolia #98476

This is a poorly-written way of saying that the stars of the “fixed sphere” move at the same trajectory, while the “wandering stars” (planets) don’t.

This is also stupid and suggests that they don’t quite understand what “trajectory” means. The stars near the poles have vastly different apparent trajectories (from the geocentric view) than the ones near the equator; the former appear to orbit the earth more slowly and in a tighter circle than the “faster” equatorial ones. I think that they meant “same relative position”. (Of course, they don’t do that either - they’re orbiting the galaxy at different speeds and positions, but they’re so far apart that it takes thousands of years to measure the difference without modern tools.)

If it helps, remember: in geocentrism, the earth doesn’t spin. Day and night are because the sun orbits the earth.

angryallytoall #dunning-kruger #elitist #moonbat #pratt #racist #sexist #transphobia

My (admittedly limited) experience with discussions women’s spaces is that trans women tend to sit back and contribute only hesitantly, in fear of being seen as overbearing. Not all of them or always, but as a general thing. One thing which I definitely have not seen is trans women acting is if they knew more about cis women’s reproduction rights than cis women do.

Assuming that this isn’t just an asspull, I suspect that there’s a distorted perception going on here. Sort of like when men talk and talk and talk and won’t shut up, and women get very little chance to say anything, yet the men and at least a few of the women come away with the impression that the women were dominating the conversation.

Josh Bernstein #wingnut #psycho

So… you want to destroy the livelihood of farmers, miners, loggers, and truckers, just to spite cities? Which will then be quickly taken over by megacorps who actually like making money, ending the last of the small independent companies. Meanwhile, cities have a few weeks of food stored up, they can still get food from the nearby areas, just less efficiently, and they make most of the things which aren’t food. Most cities already have more water and housing than they need, the idea that these can easily be denied is laughable. The government can just send in the army if the small farmers go along and the agricorps are temporarily cowed, and not all of them will, if for no reason other than small organic growers tend to be liberal. I don’t think you’ve thought this through.

Arlo Calles #fundie

This is an excessively long Jeopardy answer. The question is, “what is geocentrism?”

Basically, this is a description of how things looked under pre-telescope geocentrism. (As in, the sun revolves around the Earth, and the stars are on a fixed sphere.) Back then there was no concept of a “satellite”, but if there had been, the moon wouldn’t have been considered one.

SamuraiGhostCat #moonbat #pratt #transphobia

That’s unusual. A TERF who embraces the term with pride rather than dismisses it as a slur. This isn’t the first time a small number of them tried to reclaim it, but it didn’t go well back then. (Note: they didn’t originally invent the term, despite the incorrect insistence that they did which has been going around lately.)

Bennett Lee Ross #crackpot #conspiracy #ufo #magick

Show me an actual “Tartarian Astronomical Clock”. Your dreams don’t count.

Also, your numbers are off. I did a calculation of how long it takes a sidereal year to re-synch with a solar year, and got ~25781.80 years per cycle and ~2148.48 years per age, not 25920 & 2160. [triple checked to make sure I didn’t screw up]

…This is the least of the problems here, but I was curious if the number was accurate, since I’d never previously seen anything more precise than “roughly 2000 years per age″. It’s not even that they or whoever they got it from forgot about leap years; that just gives a slightly lower result.

Dr James DeMeo #crackpot #magick #quack

Prussian Society of America #crackpot #conspiracy #racist #wingnut

What if intuition and wisdom tells me that mathematics and intellect are more useful than intuition and wisdom?

Dennis Prager #crackpot #dunning-kruger #wingnut

Your doctor knows nothing about COVID, nothing. All they know is how the virus works, that's all they know.

They know nothing about the virus, except for everything about the virus?

I know that Prager was attempting (badly) to say that doctors only know how the virus acts while inside the human body (which is, incidentally, false), but damn does this part sound really, really dumb.

Abigail Shrier, et al #transphobia

Given that “parental rights” in certain delicate situations (not just trans children) can result in a situation which is little better than (or even exactly the same as) “better a dead child than one which is happy in a way that I don’t approve of”, this is gross negligence. Children have every right to keep secrets from their parents, while sharing them with other adults, if the truth would likely cause the parents to make them severely traumatized or dead.

People like this don’t care about that, of course. Parents have “every right” to raise children to their values, and if that means making them be not trans, or whatever it is that they don’t approve of, then they have every right to know about these things so they can make them not be trans. Never mind that this is not how anything works, fucking your kids up pretty badly is acceptable if it means that they superficially appear not to be trans anymore. Children are property to them, not people. Their idea of proper child raising means forcing children into a pre-made mold, regardless of how ill-fitting it turns out to be. Their idea of “child abuse” is either a mold they don’t approve of, or doing anything other than that.

There’s also sometimes a weird contradiction here - if a child is trans, it’s because abusive parents are forcing them to into a trans mold, except when it’s their own child or one of someone who they know very well doesn’t approve, then it’s peer pressure and cultural influence. They can’t both be consistently true. (Neither is, obviously.)

Unnamed Asshole #homophobia #psycho

Hey now. Even if that sentence is far too light, we shouldn’t be encouraging prison beatings, or rapes, or murders. That goes nowhere good. When there aren’t any pedos or rogue cops or violent child abusers, the biggest targets are young people in for relatively minor crimes, transwomen who got shoved into men’s prisons (thankfully rarer now), black or hispanic people in the areas where the prison population is mostly white, and gay men who are a little too stereotypically gay. Solitary, even if for one’s own protection, is cruel enough already, let that suffice.

It’s one thing to note that this sort of thing is the reality and that no tears would be shed if it did happen. It’s quite another to actively wish it on someone.

speculareffect #sexist #racist #homophobia #transphobia #wingnut #elitist

I’ve warned several men over the past 21 years about women. I have, with an unfiltered perseverance, discussed the true nature of women, at lengths with hundreds of men. Some listened, others think they’ve got it all figured out.

Women and men are a little different on the average, but not *that* different, and individuals vary within a wide range regardless of sex or gender. Women aren’t aliens or cryptids or unfathomable beasts. Men like you tend to take false stereotypes about a tiny subset of women, the ~~ancient wisdom~~ stupid shit invented by elderly virgins who have vowed to never speak to a woman or even interact with them in any meaningful way, treat a badly distorted view of ages long past as if it were highly relevant to how people act today, throw them in a blender, overthink the hell out of it, and don’t bother to check your conclusions. (I exaggerate, but not by much.) And on top of that, you don’t even get *men* all that right either, because most men aren’t as fucked in the head as you. No one in their right mind would trust you to divine the “true nature” of a bag of Doritos, let alone women.

Feynman and Coulter's Love Child #racist

While I’m not familiar with this city in particular, it sounds like you’re confusing cause with effect.

See, black people are usually dirt poor, and dirt poor people move to places where the property values have already dropped like a rock. So it didn’t go bad because black people moved in, black people moved in because it went bad. (I know, I know, it probably sounds racist to say it like that, but I can’t think of any better way to phrase it.)

I mean, at some point in the process there being “too many black people moving in” might have also triggered a white flight among racists with money, but that counts more for “white people fucking things up unecessarily” than anything else.

Rudd-o #wingnut #homophobia #psycho

I don’t use twitter, but I assume you can always request that the suspension be reviewed, regardless of whether the cause is automation or user flagging. Maybe it was a mistake or malicious action and the suspension can be ended early - and if it’s automated, this can be used to improve future results. Maybe it was your bad; you worded it poorly and sounded like a murderous psycho by accident. Maybe you’re just a disingenuous asshole who knows you were probably in the wrong but wants to portray yourself as an injured party for undeserved sympathy. Given how you hint at what it contained, I suspect it’s not the first one.

John Branyan #crackpot #fundie #pratt

It would be surprising, yes, but that doesn’t imply that it happened with a purpose. “Something weird happened, therefore God” is not a sufficient answer, given that we’ve figured out quite a lot of “something weirds” so far and other being(s) were never a reasonable or necessary explanation for it. Unless you count “human hoaxers”, or “squirrels in the attic”, or “baboons doing whacky shit when no one’s looking”, etc. as “other beings”.

Besides, much more realistic than jello coming to life would be the materials in the jello coming together to form new life which is not itself “jello” in any meaningful sense. We wouldn’t even recognize that if it ever happened, only that the jello went bad.

John Branyan #crackpot #fundie #pratt

Comprehending any offered response to these statements requires thought.

It does, but the resulting comprehension reveals that the received statements are lacking in reason - circular logic, non-sequiturs, appeals to ignorance, appeals to an authority whose presumed existence *is* precisely what’s in question - a veneer of profundity, overlaying nothing.

See, I can use big words and have them actually say things, not just dress things up fancy so I can pretend to sound smart. I can also talk normally, which is usually better.

Various Incels #dunning-kruger #psycho #racist #sexist

The argument that certain groups of people (in this case, women) love being forced into near-slavery (or even actual slavery), and that if any of them say otherwise, they’re either lying or just need to be shown the “right path”, is unfortunately not limited to incels.