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Parents with Inconvenient Truths about Trans #transphobia #wingnut

It’s like people who speak out against tattoos saying that you’re permanently altering your body. For some of them (e.g. ones commemorating past events or honoring a loved one) that’s the point, and this is even dumber because tattoos can be removed.

Ray Comfort #fundie

various commenters #wingnut #racist

Thst video played in the Oval Office wasn’t even from South Africa.

It’s not just Don Old Fart starving for ‘arguments’ when rightards are reduced to the visual equivalent of quote mining, to try and farm for ‘Gotchas’ against those not exactly like them.

Are you mining for coal for your orange Cecil Rhodes right now, o Gabtards: if not, why not…?!

Medeea Greere #wingnut #racist #transphobia #conspiracy

KatOfCarmel #fundie

:It is "freedom of religion" NOT "freedom from religion"”
Short answer, the SDCOTUS has stated that atheism counts AS a religion for first amendment purposes. So, not having to act like your superstition is real, or even important, i my free speech right.

Longer answer, freedom OF a religion DEMANDS freedom FROM a religion.
Imagine if Trump’s religious view was that the Sabbath was on Wednesday, and hr ordered all churches closed except on Wednesday?
What if his religious advisor convinced him that wine was unhealthy and everyone was forced to use raw milk for their sacrament?
Or if he wrote an Order that everyone had to use the Thomas Jefferson version of the Bible for worship, meditation, sermons, funerals, and hymns?

The 1st Amendment has to protect your right to freely practice your religion without being subject to the standards and practices of any other religion.

horselady #fundie

bound2success #fundie

“The word "god" should not exist in the atheist's mind.”
What? Why? I mean, I also can define demigods, heroes, demons, witches, ghosts, vampires, zombies, little green men, Allah, goddess, Valkyrie, compassionate conservative and ’Trump’s Ethics’ as well as things i do believe exist.

“Therefore an atheist should not acknowledge god.”
I generally don’t…

“If an atheist said he or she does not believe in god or any deity, he or she is acknowledge the fact the god or a deity exists,”
No, that’s stupid. Do you beleive in Zeus? If you don’t, does that validate the Greek Gods?

“and thus contradicting him or herself”
Saying ‘i don’t believe in any gods’ is the definition of atheist, no contradiction, you illiterate fuckstain.

horselady #fundie

“[ As a matter of law: do you think a man should be ticketed or arrested for wearing a dress in public? ]”
Let me guess, it’s the supporters of smaller government that want to police what i wear in public?
And who’s going to define ‘dress’?

"No, they shouldn't be ticketed, they should be thrown in a prison where they can live out their fantasies.”
Boys at a school with uniforms, during a heat wave, asked for permission to wear shorts until the heat was more tolerable. The school refused.
Girls, on the other hand, could wear the shorter skirt version of the uniform. So, rather than sweating to death, the boys borrowed skirts and wore those. Since shorts were not authorized.
So, you’d just sweepingly lock all of them up for a protest, because all crossdressing is offensively fetish-based.

Parents with Inconvenient Truths about Trans #transphobia #wingnut

<@KeithInc.> #226998

At some point they’re going to blab the REAL reason they keep this hysteria about trans people and their treatment going; they’re consciously deciding to end their ability to reproduce, and THAT’S the real reason the parents are flipping out. “You’re taking away MY dream of having grandchildren permanently! That’s not fair to ME!”

various commenters #wingnut #racist

It’s always amazing to me how these kinds of people are under the impression that the very inventors of settled civilization and agriculture who were working the land long before anyone else barged in wouldn’t know how to farm. That people who were specifically forced into bondage to work farmland for lengths of time and under weather conditions white men frequently did not survive while their captors sat fanning themselves somehow don’t know the meaning of hard work. Especially seeing as the people who make these claims are the spiritual successors of a class of elitists who collapsed their society due to a complete inability to cope with the loss of free labourers, an absolute unwillingness to put impoverished white people to work in that void because apart from having to actually pay for labour they held them in almost as much contempt as slaves and said the same fucking things you see here about their poverty, and such financial ineptitude they believed the weakest imaginable hand could hold the world hostage.

They don’t seem to realize that much of the economic disparity that exists in Africa would suddenly shift if the white people fled relinquishing their disproportionate claim to the legal rights to the arable land and mineral wealth.

Parents with Inconvenient Truths about Trans #transphobia #wingnut

“ it's fringe science with no proven benefit and massive risks." - Dan Crenshaw”
Pretty sure this ‘fringe science’ has a better and longer pedigree than gay revision therapy. The regret rate is a tiny fraction of that for having kids, having knees replaced, getting a tattoo.

I do love the warnings though. Someone whose own body is an aggravating annoyance seeks to become comfortable inside their own skin, and a “helpful” bystander warns them “The effects might be permanent!”
What can you say besides, “Let’s hope!”??

Freegrace #fundie

C. David Parsons #fundie

“In addition, Darwin was a FLAMING HOMOSEXUAL.”
Even if true, this would just be ad hominem. Like saying, also Jesus was A JEW! Booga booga!

“Do you want your kids to learn theorys by a raging HOMO?”
Theories.
And, yes. If the theory stood up to scrutiny to become mainstream science, yes. That’s what they should learn.
Even the gay one.

"Fags want to insert there”
Their.
“penises into other mens”
Men’s.
“anuses. Is that what you want taught in public schools?”
Strange how i’ve never, ever seen graphic descriptions of gay sex in any biology class on the evolution unit.
I HAVE seen the bible verse about the woman whose lovers were hung like mules, though. Just not in Sunday School for some reason.

“Sounds like it to me. Have fun in hell.”
Meh. I believe in education but not ‘Hell’ (capitalize formal names, you brain dead, illiterate, knuckle-dragging, homophobic Chicken Little).
And lying for Jesus is against the Commandments.

Issac #fundie

Evolution did not kick God out of schools. Evolution, like every science, is fucking silent on the nature and identity of any gods.
The US Constitution is what was used to kick coerced prayer out. But kids can still pray. Teachers can pray. They can’t lead the kids in prayer, that’s all.

All these shootings took place in schools where the morning pledge of allegiance mentions Under God. So your whole premise is a fucked up one.

Apolitical #racist #conspiracy

Unknown #fundie

“ Per evolution, all living things had a common ancestor. If this is true, every living thing should be sexually compatible and able to produce fertile offspring!”
OUrearliest common ancestors were asexual.

Sex was invented later. Much, much later.
And evolution MEANS ‘change over time.’ We changed. Everything changed. Us being sexually compatible with an oak tree would be a big problem for evolution.

Brian Price #fundie

“So you want proof there is a God?”
Or evidence, any reason to accept any god as real.

“I'll give you proof.
But you know what? It still won't change your mind.”
How do I know? Because the Bible says this:”
"And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead." - Luke 16:31″
Well, if i’d SEEN that happen, i might, but hearing an anecdote isn’t compelling.

“I know that it won't change your mind because Jesus told us through a parable”
An anecdote convinces you?

“Over and over we can see throughout history that the issue is not, "Is there a God?" The issue is, "When will man love God and obey his voice?"”
MAYBE when i hear God’s voice, rather than being told stories of people who heard his voice, this one time, or this other time….

Jack Chick #fundie

Jack Chick was the sort of Christian who believes that being baptized and accepting Jesus alone gets you into heaven, and refusing to do either or both earns you hell. I vaguely remember a couple of them in particular which illustrate this. One of them had a bunch of people (Native Americans, I think) who were covered in black stains; the ones who accepted Jesus had the stains vanish and became happy, while the ones who didn’t kept the stains and became dour and joyless. Another contrasted a husband-and-wife missionary team with a hardened criminal; the former lead a virtuous life by Christian standards, but went to hell for being unbaptized, while the criminal was justly executed but went to heaven. Might be remembering them wrong, haven’t read any of those tracts in over a decade.

He’s not entirely unique in this. I’m kind of baffled by that particular take. One of the main purposes of religion is to get people to behave in a moral (or “moral”) fashion, but if you can be evil as you want so long as you “accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior” and engage in a particular ritual once in your life (not necessarily willingly, as many children are baptized by force) then… what exactly is the point of Heaven and Hell and “God’s Laws” and all that? Even if the criminal in the example didn’t truly accept Jesus until it was too late to avoid death row, but once he did so it somehow made him unable to do evil things ever again (which isn’t well-reflected in real life, as some of the most devout fundies can be pretty horrible people even by their own standards, and also apparently not well-reflected by this cowboy one, I haven’t seen it) it still seems rather arbitrary at best.

This strikes me as doing selfish crackpot religion in much the same way as Sovereign Citizens try to do selfish crackpot legalism.

n/a #fundie

The guy that discovered ‘paths of the seas’ read that passage, and said, ‘Hey! Therre are paths in the sea!’
No one believed him as all he had was a quote of scripture.
He had to collect a huge amount of data from ship’s logs abuot their drift, and published the science and it was accepted.

On the other hand, the guy that discovered continental drift did NOT quote the Bible (which says that the Earth is on foundations and doesn’t move). He suggested drift and was rejected due to a lack of evidence.
Eventually he republished, after collecting actual evidence for the movement, and was eventually accepted as a science fact.

The Bible knowledge may or may not match eventual science findings but that does not validate the Bible. You need the science. You don’t need scripture.

Dave Daubenmire #fundie #crackpot #psycho #wingnut

Anonymous Gossiper #conspiracy

“And that's not all, all planetarium software uses the geocentric model.”
A projector simulating the Earth’s view of the night sky uses the Earth as the viewpoint for determining that view? This is simply efficiency, not a conspiracy. Ask any planetarium operator if the night’s show means that the stars are orbiting the Earth. Just ask.

When we on the sub tried to track a torpedo target, everything was calculated in terms of ‘relative to the sub.’ Doesn’t mean we didn’t think our sub and the target were both moving.

Parents with Inconvenient Truths about Trans #transphobia #wingnut

polymuser #sexist

“ Self-identify as a minority woman. Don’t be flamboyant; just business casual, low heels. Do become more womanly emotional in your work life, and join the girl’s gossip groups.”
That would be hilarious. A bunch of sexists acting like their impression of minority women.
That could be a horribly offensive reality show.

Apolitical #conspiracy #racist

I’m not Anti-Semitic.

…but notice something missing? Now say the same without the ‘But’ without saying you’re a butt.

That last word refers to what you are, A Political. Now why don’t I need to be political without the last word…?!

…even though I have the last word.