Just because an African was born in Scandinavia, doesn’t make them Scandinavian. No matter how much showrunners and writers of “historical” movies and streaming programs believe history can be rewritten as a Marvel comic or Marvel Cinematic Universe reboot, history remains unchanged.
The Vikings were white and there was no black Viking warrior queen, unlike the current year demanding such a fictional character.
There can be Africans in Sweden or Africans in Norway (just as there can be Africans in America), but morals and ethics of the current year do not change what was once, no matter how fashionable a butt-kicking black Viking female leader might be in 2022. An African cannot be a Swede. An African cannot be Norwegian. And yes, an African is ultimately just visiting America.
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Heimdall - Guardian of Bifrost - played by an Afro-Caribbean actor? The same potentially being the next 007? Fine by me.
So what's your excuse, Paul Arsey…?!
PK: “Some ‘scientists’ say that Antarctica, the continent of the South Pole, receives so little precipitation that it’s actually a desert. But facts remain unchanged: an area full of snow and ice, where even summer temperatures are at a level that we would think of as winter cold, cannot be a desert. A desert is a scorching hot area that looks like a giant sand beach with cacti!!”
By this idiot’s logic, I’m Italian.
EDIT: I also have a bit of Scots-Irish, Welsh and German in me. Does this guy want me to hack myself to death, send my limbs to Germany, Northern Ireland and Wales, and the rest to southern Italy and Sicily?
Also, assuming this guy is American, when is he moving back to Europe? I don’t recall Indigamericans being white.
Heck, a lot of blacks in the USA have white ancestry.
Seeing how I’m mostly a composite of Polish and Irish, where would I “belong”? Denmark?
And I’m staying on Cape Cod, thank you. I like the bird life here too much.
@TheKingOfRhye #117282
Not only “white Americans” but everybody who’s not a First Nation native. And if our racist friend wants to reduce “American” to the first settlers of the “post-savage” period, then what about people of north European descent in places with such typical English names as “Los Angeles”, “San Francisco”, “San Jose”, “San Diego”, “Las Vegas”, etc.? If you ain’t Latino an' don’ spicka di Español, then fook ov.
“No matter how much showrunners and writers of “historical” movies and streaming programs believe history can be rewritten”
Hmm. I don’t usually go to a movie theatre to learn history. Sometimes i learn some ‘history’ but it doesn’t always hold up when i research the history.
And no matter what happened in (name a country) in (pick a year) someone making a movie in 2022 is trying to get 2022 audiences (and maybe 2023, 2024, 2040-2300) audiences to pay money to see it, and be so entertained there’s money for a sequel.
So this “that’s not real, that’s not what happened!” argument? Totally meaningless. History is apart from Hollywood. most of us knew that before we got out of school. Just one ‘but i saw on TV that…’ outburst in school should have calibrated you. I learned that in fourth grade.
So, console yourself that the people you like were dominant in the past. Pretend that matters when you vote in the present.
@Blackcat #117292
Same here, much of my ancestry can trace itself to Ellis Island in the turn of the 20th century. Most of my Great Grandparents came from southern Italy / Sicily. Only the one branch that isn’t (the British & German one) could be the one here longer.
Also, the longer a family and its line lives in the “New Country”, the less it’s tied to the original homeland due to marrying other families of other national ancestries and even ethnicities and races. I have Jews in my otherwise mostly Christian / Gentile family, my dad’s engaged to a Filipino woman!
While I do take pride in my Italian heritage, over time, it’ll be mostly meaningless. The family will just be “AMERICAN”.
Something that always goes unmentioned regarding "Africans" in the US: they are not a group that came hear as immigrants (some did, many did not).
Black people were literally forced to come here, by white people. On top of everything else, it is really hard to take this whole attitude that America is a "white" nation, given that fact.
First of all, Africa is not a country. It’s a continent.
Like everyone else said, why is African Americans just visiting but white Americans aren’t? My earliest ancestors came over on the Mayflower and you know they weren’t doing it for funsies.
Idiot.
There were black Vikings, just like there are black lumberjacks, black doctors, and (formerly) a black president; because “Viking” isn't an ethnicity, it's a verb. You go a-viking. Like hunting with your buddies on the weekend. Come Tyr's Dag, you and Olaf and Helga and Stinky Forvald all pile into the longboat and sail to Northamshire to burn down an abbey and steal some sheep. “Viking” isn't something you are, it's something you do, and yes, historically, there were some black people who went a-viking.
Because despite what Anders Fucking Brevik tells himself in his cushy space-aged prison apartment, the actual Norsemen were less about the skin colour, and more about “how well can you swing a fucking hammer?”
Kersey would hate the 1958 movie, The Vikings. The Viking leader was played Ernest Borgnine, son of Italian immigrants. His son was played by Kirk Douglas, son of Jewish immigrants from what is now Belarus. The half Viking slave is played by Tony Curtis, son of Jewish immigrants from Hungry.
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